A thread in which we offer no-doubt considered and nuanced opinions about the indie singer-songwriter Jake Bugg

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I drink to remember, I smoke to forget
Some things to be proud of, some stuff to regret
Been down some dark alleys in my own head
Something is changing, changing, changing

I go back to Clifton to see my old friends
The best people I could ever have met
Skin up a fat one, hide from the Feds
Something is changing, changing, changing

So I kiss goodbye to every little ounce of pain
Light a cigarette and wish the world away
I got out, I got out, I’m alive and I’m here to stay
So I hold two fingers up to yesterday
Light a cigarette and smoke it all away
I got out, I got out, I’m alive and I’m here to stay

Down in the kitchen, drinking white lightning
He’s with my momma, yelling and fighting
It’s not the first time praying for silence
Something is changing, changing, changing

So I kiss goodbye to every little ounce of pain
Light a cigarette and wish the world away
I got out, I got out, I’m alive and I’m here to stay
So I hold two fingers up to yesterday
Light a cigarette and smoke it all away
I got out, I got out, I’m alive and I’m here to stay

There’s a story for every corner of this place
Running so hard you got out but your knees got grazed
I’m an old dog but I learned some new tricks yeah

So I kiss goodbye to every little ounce of pain
Light a cigarette and wish the world away
I got out I got out I’m alive and I’m here to stay
So I hold two fingers up to yesterday
Light a cigarette and smoke it all away
I got out I got out I’m alive and I’m here to stay

Hey, hey it’s fine
Hey, hey it’s fine
Hey, hey it’s fine
I left it behind

is it true he's shagging ed sheeran?

This cock is going to be Number One on Sunday.

Skin up a fat one, hide from the feds.

Actually on reflection I think this kind of thing is just what the charts need. Many of today's stars are sanitised and stage-managed to the point where they've about as much rock and roll attitude as a glass of water!

This kid may not be the next Dylan but he has a two-fingers attitude to the faceless boy and girl bands that are dominating the airwaves.

Light a cigarette and smoke it all away

"give me that cigarette you nonce, you call that finished? when jake bugg smokes a cigarette it stays fucking smoked. even the filter."

usual unattractive ilx mode of middle-aged guys laugning at young people.

An old dog who's learned some old tricks, you mean?

All these obnoxious little shits
Need their throats slit
Tie up a fat one
Drain his jug like a pig

usual unattractive ilx mode of middle-aged guys laugning at young people.

i don't recall laughing.

you're not middle aged though.

They sent him on tour with Noel Gallagher's band, which is hardly a sign that your music is meant to be inaccessible to middle-aged people.

what's it like being middle aged guys Matt

matt is actually stephen, nigel, and jules

I don't understand your young person's hipster references.

leave the youths to their acoustic guitar music

"I took her along to a drum'n'bass rave... 'course it was called jungle in those days...'"

Colleague's husband's friend is involved in his management or something, which means I can't swear when he comes on 6music.

dog latin tell me those aren't lyrics

haha, no i think it's a paraphrase of an armando iannucci sketch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqmjWCk36C8

rather this at number one than boring leona "entitlement" lewis and her new album "shoot the rioters."

relax guys, this is a lana del rey situation

have we seen the video btw, LOOOOOL at the final shot

let me know when you start talking about the music of jake bugg instead of sneering.

sure thing, i can do that. piss off back to your oblivion and await my call

how do you mean a lana del rey situation?

he's no Sonic Boom Six

^^^ trying to keep it positive

sure thing, i can do that. piss off back to your oblivion and await my call

way to keep people on ilx there.

Does he have a hilarious boyband past we don't know about or is he going to be all "thanks to everyone who made me Number One, remember, say no to Shariah law" this time next week?

hang on i've actually listened to it* now, is his voice meant to be like that?

*about 20 seconds, i'm not made of stone

apologies to newbies under the mistaken impression that ilm has anything to do with discussing music. other messageboards are available.

okay i'm going in

ldr in the sense that it's different to sheeran, this is like a espresso one-shot postcard simulacra immersion of the bygone like video games was rather than a wider resumption of lbzc hostilities

we need a proper dissection of this faux cinema verite Oasis b-side genre of sensitive acoustic "working class" scallywag folk punk and what the fuck its appeal is beyond the Campaign for Real Britpop massive

it's not 2000 anymore.

this sounds like cast.

I've still not heard any Sheeran. Where does it stand in relation to Frank Turner? Because I'm getting a similar any-port-in-a-storm vibe.

Sheeran less angry about people claiming dole and using libraries than Turner, music pretty much the same empty shite

wasn't it weller saying back in '77 "how can i be a fucking revivalist when i'm only 18"? nothing changes. shame on number one hitmaker jake bugg who will soon have more money than everyone on ilx put together for not making like shoreditch brostep cutz sampled from the italian porn soundtracks he bought from intoxica in 1996.

good post. really makes you think.

i was thinking about Boxcar Willie

Saw an ad for this guy on Channel 4 yesterday, assumed it was some sort of hilarious parody effort.

born in 1994. don't trust it.

david icke thinks he's a lizard. xpost

don't knock j bugg for not being doop.

"fuck this guy, he's no doop"

Ah, ILM Jake Bugg thread, I've been expecting you.

No boyband past; he emerged onto the Nottingham acoustic circuit three or four years ago, came to wider notice via BBC Introducing in 2011, which gave him some national airplay and festival spots. The main change post-signing is the shift towards rockier material; this time last year, he was still an acoustic act, plaintively channelling Don McLean and Donovan. Some hear Lee Mavers in him, I think it's more Gene Pitney. He has probably had some encouragment to amp it up. Good advice, I reckon. It's added a few more colours to his palette. "Lightening Bolt" is a great track, for instance. I like a bit of skiffle.

Yeah, he's become a bit of an inadvertant lightnening rod for rockists, but I don't have much trouble in separating the discourse from the content. Good album, tails off a bit towards the end though.

Full disclosure: he's our local boy made good, on course to be the first properly home-grown Nottingham act ever to have a Number One album, the whole city's going barmy, and it feels GOOD!

sheeran's not reactionary real britpop like this, he is just the manifestation of the ultrastudenty cup of tea, sensitive tears into my kebab melodrama niche

sheeran = kip, bugg = ukip

No results found for "doop dubstep remix"

:(

FWIW you only need to look at the kind of gleeful dismissal dished out to the likes of 2002-era Coldplay to realise that old-skool ILM was not really a community predisposed to even-handed appreciation of commercially successful and hyped major label Brit guitar music.

And what a beautiful place it was!

You could try Simple As This, or Lightning Bolt.

having lightning bolt as a backing band would def help this dude out!

I really just can't get past the timbre of dude's voice; the nasal rasp hits me exactly the wrong way

oh well, I tried

Understand that, to be fair. It took me a while to adjust to the voice. Seeing him live was the turning point.

Ach, mike, you're probably right about Nusic, at least to a point. I don't even live there currently, so it's just this and an ill-considered article I saw a while back that made me cross. I still think a lively DIY scene is a million times more important than scoring hits. Plus, if you end up with something like Liverpool or Manchester, it has always seemed to me that bands struggle to escape the weight of history there, so I'm fine with avoiding that, thanks.

http://mikeatkinson.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/image1.jpg

*barf*

what building is that

The local Barfs according to emil.y

It's the city council house in the old market square.

the imperial residence of jake bugg

Bugg House

Jakes out back

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2013/feb/07/jake-bugg-mumford-sons-posh-farmers-banjos

In the past Bugg has spoken about keeping "X Factor shit" out of the charts and railed against "manufactured" pop. But given that all pop is, to some extent, manufactured, it makes him an easy target for critics. Some have jumped on the fact he uses co-writers – such as Iain Archer, formerly of Snow Patrol – on his songs. ("Sometimes Lennon needed McCartney and sometimes Simon needed Garfunkel," Bugg reasons. "You'd go mad doing everything on your own.")

Also, an actual sighting of "I just write songs. If people like it, then great"

An inspiring figure.

Has anybody actually said they like this guy on this thread?

I like that song, 'What Doesn't Kill Ya'. It's pretty irritating, but in a gratifying way --- like chewing on a canker sore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt-f8un0Nfw

Well done, fuckface:

http://www.hungertv.com/feature/interview-jake-bugg/

I think he's pretty good.

his music is sort of annoying but i kind of like him after reading those interviews. he's only 18, maybe he'll do something interesting sometime

He might develop a krokodil addiction and hire The Kasai Allstars as his band, who knows? But even remotely interesting? Never.

It hurts becoming an old music loving square, especially when the stuff you don't get would have been considered degenerate mediocrity in the late 80's. Sorry just railing against some of the idiocy up-thread.

never apologise, xelab

YOUR SONGWRITING HAS BEEN COMPARED TO THE LIKES OF BOB DYLAN AND NOEL GALLAGHER. HOW DID THAT MAKE YOU FEEL?

I didn't read the rest of it

do people want jake bugg to die? if so why, and in what circumstances?

Slurry fumes.

trapped in a tank of slurry fumes.

i like that thing he does when he scowls in front of words e.g.

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Marcello Carlin

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killin the game

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a mix between The Stone Roses and Primal Scream with the swagger of Oasis

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/jun/29/kasabian-or-spinal-tap-billy-bragg-tell-them-apart

Reviving this thread as an actual fan of Jake Bug (holy hell the baseless bickering upthread was so hard to read)

I think despite his weird voice, he's developed a really stellar range/delivery/phrasing/control/style. Also he's a fantastic guitarist, theres a video interview with a guitar site out there he did where he basically spends 15 minutes showing off his chops and having a blast. All guitar talk and music discussion, not self-promoting at all.

He's also imo a fantastic songwriter. He doesn't bat 1000 with all of his album tracks (and I generally think his uptempo stuff tends to be plodding and pandering to rebellion a little too much) but he's got some absolute diamonds:

Lightning Bolt, Simple as This, Broken (the Rick Rubin version), Slide and A Song About Love are all classics (and I like most of his other tunes, even if they aren't on the top tier with these 5)

Here's A Song About Love, for anyone curious to see what he did after dropping Two Fingers and pissing a bunch of people here off:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Veq6GQHU3is

Great vocals, unique musical form, creative time signature switch in the pre-chorus, great sound and heart wrenching lyrics. He's the real deal when he's at his best.

Also, 3 years later the comparisons between Bugg and Ed Sheeran are downright hilarious, considering where they are in the cultural relevance spectrum AND their newest music. Stuff like "Don't", "Sing" and the T-Swift collab could not be farther from Bugg's output.

dyin'

ah googlers - some things on ilx never change.

jake is a top bloke, met him a couple of times and he sure knows his stuff

looking forwards to some more heartwrought lyrics and guitar wizardry from this mega nottinghamshire based troubador in 2015

cheers

"ah googlers"?

People revive old garbage threads on this site all the time,but just because it's a singer you don't like and you don't recognize my screen name I'm a mischievous "googler" and you feel like you need to threadcrap and hate on me? Jeez I'm just trying to talk about music I like and get some folks talking

Nakhchivan, I'm hoping im not falling into a sarcasm trap here but it's cool to hear that Jake is chill to his fans

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