Takin' Care of Business: ILX 70s RAWK TRAX VOTING RULES AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD - VOTING THREAD!- Closes Nov 8th 11.59 PM UK Time - All ILXORS/LURKERS WELCOME

URGENT AND KEY
FORMAT/RULES: You can vote for a minimum of 20 and maximum of 100 tracks, BUT: You can only vote for a maximum of five tracks by a single artist (if you vote for a full 100 tracks), four tracks by a single artist if you vote for <100 but >50 tracks, three tracks if you vote for <50 tracks. In addition you can only vote for one track by an artist in your top ten. You can choose to submit a weighted, unweighted or split ballot. Points will be assigned as follows: Weighted: 1st choice (top of the ballot) 260 points, then 245, 235, 225, 220, 215, 210, 205, 200, 195, 190, 188, 186, 184 and so on down to 2 points for 100th place. Unweighted: Every choice gets 113 points. Split: The top portion is treated as a weighted ballot and the remaining potential points total is divided equally among the bottom portion.

Please make sure you copy and paste your selections directly from the following spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AsM36o-L6dNEdHQwMTRPa0o1OUEyNVhZM3lmZTVTS1E

Here is the voting form: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dEN3MGdQQkdWWUtsM19SYlZ0UTdzQkE6MQ

Voting closes 11.59pm UK Time

Please use this thread to campaign for tracks, direct questions/ire at the pollrunners, discuss shredding vis a vis the Ford administration, debate Deep Purple vs Rainbow, etc. I can confirm there are many deep cuts on this list worth checking out. Whether you're a record collector type with deep knowledge or some Izod wearing square who only knows the songs on this list that have been beaten to death on classic rock radio PLEASE VOTE! ALL VIEWPOINTS WELCOME: STRAIGHT OR BURNOUT, HIPPIE OR PUNKER, BACHMAN OR TURNER! PLEASE VOTE!

Also
1970-1979 WTF - The Hard 'n' Heavy 'n' Loud + Krautrock, Arty, Noisy, Weird, Funky, Punky Shit - Albums Poll!- VOTING THREAD!- Closes Nov 8th 11.59 PM UK Time - All ILXORS/LURKERS WELCOME

and obv it goes w/o saying this is the sister poll to this: 1970-1979 WTF - The Hard 'n' Heavy 'n' Loud + Krautrock, Arty, Noisy, Weird, Funky, Punky Shit - Albums Poll!- VOTING THREAD!- Closes Nov 8th 11.59 PM UK Time - All ILXORS/LURKERS WELCOME

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And the tracks Spotify Playlist

prediction, this poll basically just boils down to me listening to "slow ride" really loud for a week

LOL! I just clicked on this thread to remind everyone to vote for Slow Ride. It should be everybody's #1.

it's fuckin massive, also love how nobody involved seems to be in any way "taking it easy," eagles could have taken some cues from foghat on this one

this band "mountain" bringing some serious riffing too, damn

Would also like to direct everybody to give "Rock and Roll, Hootchie Koo" another look-see - - - I doubt anybody's unfamiliar with it, but it's third-tier classic rock rotation material and maybe you've never heard it played loud, singing along, with your best pal joining in for the high parts. Parent album has a least one more decent song, a stab at country-flavored rock called "Cheap Perfume," not sure if I've ever had the energy to try out side B though.

Also, Rick Derringer wrote/played on "Hang On Sloopy," and as you probably know, produced Weird Al's early records and cut the solo on "Eat It." Unsung greatness.

bump

Couple of my noms are missing from the spreadsheet, didn't see them vetoed on the noms thread.

Ian Dury & The Blockheads - Hit Me With Your Rhythm Stick
Undertones - Get Over You

Question about the 5 tracks per artist limit. How does it work with Iggy Pop? Are Iggy & The Stooges, The Stooges and Iggy Pop all considered seperate acts for this poll?

don't mind a couple of noms getting vetoed where it made sense against the criteria / despotic prerogative but what happened to:
Yes - Heart of the Sunrise
Yes - Siberian Khatru
Yes - Long Distance Runaround
Bola Johnson and his Easy-life Top Beats - Ezuku Buzo
Orchestre Super Jheevs des Paillotes - Ye Nan Lon An
Brian Eno - King's Lead Hat
?
which should all surely have qualified?

I cant speak for balls (and its his poll) but I'm pretty sure when we discussed it Iggy & The Stooges/The Stooges are the same but Iggy Pop solo isn't.

As for what's vetoed I don't know, again its not my decision.

Wished I'd nommed John Entwistle's "My Size," then noticed someone already did! Thanks, Spectrist!

iggy & the stooges/the stooges count as one artist as do bob seger/bob seger & silver bullet band and yoko ono/yoko ono/plastic ono band. iggy solo counts as different than the stooges though. iirc the yes were maybe not heavy enough (plus i might've been uncomfortable w/ just how much yes was on the list considering in early discussions they were mentioned as a band that didn't qualify for this definition of 'rawk'), the afrobeat are awesome and have great guitar but they're not rawk gestures by non-rock artists the way something like 'crazy horses' is, w/ the eno i figured if talking heads didn't qualify it was a bit unfair to let king's lead hat in, even if it does rock more than talking heads; plus 'blank frank' fit better maybe and the only eno that really unquestionably qualifies are the more driven guitar tracks from warm jets and tiger mtn. w/ this poll i was more interested in exploring the continuum between slade and sabbath and stooges and skynyrd and seger and swans and then finding out what wavelengh they all hit, be it only occasionally like skynyrd and seger and habitually like stooges and sabbath, and then including agents outside that continuum that nevertheless attempted to tap into it either due to commercial calculation (donna summer) or cuz the artist really really loved edgar winter's 'frankenstein' (the jacksons) or cuz of 60s hangover (too many to mention).

lol not swans, saints rather

"Heart of the Sunrise" is surely one of Yes's heaviest songs. I don't see why this shouldn't qualify: http://youtu.be/oDqG9agd5wc

http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b622/AcidMetrics/math-formula-chalkboard_zps8aea88f1.jpg

hmm yeah 'heart of the sunrise' must've been oversight, since there was one yes track listed twice already i did go ahead and switch that in. no further changes though, the period for appeals was allocated and has come and gone.

no further changes though

^^^

nooooooo! Donna Summer + the Jacksons! who knew? never a dull moment!

or no wait apparently i didn't, nominations list seems to be locked in.
http://www.asktog.com/images/palmballot.jpg

be on the lookout for me to write in "catch scratch fever" just to waste a vote and irritate you

^^^

now, now, Doctor, I believe Mr. Balls is merely trying to inject of bit of that freewheelin' Pinochet spirit to add some zesty 70s versimilitude to our staid little party. whoo!

and we still have the following addendums to look forward to!

*two tracks per artist if you vote for >40 but <50
*one track per artist if you vote for >30 but <40
*no tracks at all by any artist you have ever enjoyed if you vote for <25 tracks
*If you vote for <10 tracks, then you may only vote for the Thomas Bernhard novel

what if i get to platinum level, does that come with extra perks or do i just get more points for every dollar i spend on airplane vodka and internet gaming?

I wish I could go back in time and nominate Rainbow: Man On The Silver Mountain

balls what's the state of play re my Undertones/Ian Dury noms?

^^^

unless you're referring to Plaistow Patricia, Blackmail Man or Teenage Kicks, it's prob. a state of internment. on a more upbeat note, I believe the Spotify tracks playlist is p. much finished:

http://open.spotify.com/user/pfunkboy/playlist/1aBQmkg4fKeR1HN75lquQU

use the ilxor Soundrop room on Spotify to listen to and campaign for tracks
http://open.soundrop.fm/s/W16fTbbsgjzuGhsN

got my ballot?

Going to take my time putting these together and try to avoid too much duplication between track and album ballots. Will probably end up doing split ballots.

These polls have def lead to me listening to a higher quotient of ROCK than I have in years.

it’s quiet as a fucking crypt in here, so I'll take the opportunity to throw out the idea of Red Transistor’s Not Bite as not only a signature no-wave track, but one of the decade’s best, period (easily top five for me, and, after particularly enraging episodes at work, number one). scribes have bled purple rivers trying to sketch its manic chainsaw charm and crack the code to its hateful yet strangely irresistible sound-fouling zeal, so I'll just add that I think that part of Red Transistor's genius resides in successfully pulling off the gambit of shackling the jerky, blown-circuit urban overload at no wave’s aesthetic core to the muscular drive of Symptom of the Universe years before Sonic Youth attempted the same. this catholic approach to racket enables the rec to sit dead center in the Venn intersection of metal, punk, no wave, rock and noise in the same manner as Reign in Blood and the Bad Brains’ ROIR tape, delivering an expansive slice of punishment that's satisfying to a variety of otherwise fractious freaks. finally, on an extra-musical note, I think that Von LMO in particular, a "loser in a losers' scene" (to quote Julian Cope), truly embodies the decade's fervid, car-wreck milieu of explosive creativity amidst a hopelessly broken political, social and economic landscape, and that it’s only fitting that, despite being dismissed as the Klaus Nomi of sonic vomit for his ridiculous spaceman schtick, he's achieved an ironic vindication for helping make a record that still sounded walloping in '90 when I bought it and seems even more deliriously fucked today. enjoy:

Not Bite: http://youtu.be/JoDYj6s6dMI
the b-side:
We're Not Crazy: http://youtu.be/U_R3-gMvf7A

related Von LMO skree f/the interested:
Mass Destruction: http://youtu.be/PJnExHpltCM
Flying Saucer '88: http://youtu.be/ockyS9pi0M0

Excellent props for Red transistor, Hellhouse. Not Bite would be a shoo-in for my top ten were i able to cut and paste from the spreadsheet which for some reason i am unable to do. Also wishing I had remembered to nominate A Band's No Love - track two here - http://youtu.be/Xn5ZgVCd5hQ

Excellent props for Red transistor, Hellhouse. Not Bite would be a shoo-in for my top ten were i able to cut and paste from the spreadsheet which for some reason i am unable to do.

thanks, but you MUST vote f/this rec! appeal to the powers-that-be to amend your ballot! it's one of the only true anti-RS-canon votes!

You can't cut and paste, but you should be able to copy and paste?

i have yet to submit a ballot as i can't vote full stop due to aforementioned cut and paste problems and not being willing to type 100 band and track titles out (is nobody else having this problem?). maybe i'll just write-in vote for all my no wave faves and leave it at that.

xp

seandalai - i can't copy or paste either. no problem on the albums spreadsheet but something up with the tracks one.

I can C+P ok in Firefox. Anyone else having problems?

stirmonster, did you try keyboard shortcuts for C+P? tracks spreadsheet is set up differently than albums in that you don't have the google docs toolbar available, but you should still be able to highlight the rows and C+P.

nope, tried it in safari and firefox and no joy.

just PM'd you the list

brilliant! thanks a lot.

Got the noms list down to a shortlist of 147 (though I've still got a large chunk of the Spotify playlist to work through). This is proving harder to put together than the albums ballot but it's loads of fun. <3 whoever nominated 'Horrorshow' by the way!

bumping this to let people know if you want to listen to some of the nommed tracks and such we are opening the ILXOR soundrop room in spotify:

http://open.soundrop.fm/s/W16fTbbsgjzuGhsN

Come and enjoy!

sign in with twitter or facebook to soundrop so you can add tracks/chat

ps once you've done that go the the far right of the screen and left click and the chat box will pop out!

Man, no one nominated "Closer to the Heart"! I was thinking it was too soft, I guess, but listening to AFtK, it really does rock.

Don't want these threads to fall off the map... I still haven't finished my ballots but I hope people are voting!

I'm up to 44 and have only got to "Ca".

i found the trax ballot easy to do tbh. You must've nominated loads!

Given that I kept changing my albums ballot daily the past month, I was worried that I wouldn't have time for the trax. But I just looked at the spreadsheet and went with my gut, picking favorites on the fly and was done in 20 min. I didn't count the entries 'til after I submitted, it was not quite 100 but close enough.

woohoo!

ok sorry about that! Forgot about other people's schedules...

ONE HOUR TO GO FOR VOTING!!!! ONE HOUR!! LAST CALL!!!

I found the trax poll harder than albums but I managed a 75-entry weighted ballot. 20 is the minimum so it should be very easy to send something in! it's friday afternoon, ya'll know if you're at work you're not doing anything anyway... send in a ballot!!!

Thanks again to everyone who already has!

yeah get voting! officially it will close once seandalai says so, you have until then to vote, but please declare now if you're going to!

will submit trax ballot. battling fucked formatting/c+p issues at moment.

Hitting c+p repeatedly was a weird way to spend my Friday night. All in the name of rock though...

PENCILS DOWN!!

are you fucking kidding me?

just get it in quick hellhouse. seandalai has to tidy up stuff.
once seandalai posts its closed its closed

If the form lets you submit a ballot it will be counted - it's not closed yet.

Viceroy, I'll send you the results in a couple of hours.

and me too!

awesome!

hellhouse are you still submitting?

no sign of ballot from him. did he stop doing it after viceroys post?

trax poll submitted

I've just got back in after a gig. Is there any possibility of extension to Pacific Time?

i thought you voted? you have until seandalai says poll closed. HURRY!

thanks hellhouse!

Not done tracks yet. Voted for albums.

emil.y how long do you need? I can give you about an hour.

should be a split ballot: 14 weighted/36 unweighted. (I may/may not have picked the correct option, but there's a line break in any event.)

Okay, I'll try to do it in an hour. I have it down to 110 tracks, I just wanted to do a split ballot instead of entirely unweighted, but if all else fails I will have a list of 100 in at two, if that's okay?

lol u r distracted by prog butts

Just the Canterbuttry scene.

youre holding back the results being rolled out tonight! Focus on poll not butts!

emil.y - should be cool, I have a bunch of things to sort out still anyway

sund4r is at work struggling to find a way to vote in trax poll. he has no internet and doesnt know if he can email me an attachment via his phone internet.

Noone seems to be wanting to do an albums ballot so i guess you can run that first or something.

Sorry you only had till October to turn a ballot in... I know this was totally sprung on you all really last minute... :/

well it was postponed for 4 months

Ha, no, I have no excuse, I'm just lame.

sund4r is sending me via fb IM a top 20 as he cant find out how to send his full ballot excel sheet.

lol ok

sund4r puts all the cba non-voters to shame

his top 25 is in via unorthodox means but its in

Thanks Sund4r!! I'm sure your picks will be a valuable contribution to the end results!

tick tock tick tock

JUST SUBMITTING NOW.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2dhD9zR6hk

after all that emil.y only does a top 20

(joke)

Done. The formatting still looks weird to me, but I painstakingly C&Ped from the list into the form, so it'd better work.

OK! AFAIK that's everyone who was going to turn a ballot in! I think its tabulation time!

Thanks for turning one in emil.y!! I'm sure you made some great picks that will hopefully show up in the rundown!

now get in plug while we await results and the countdown. jeffs getting impatient!

Sorry you only had till October to turn a ballot in... I know this was totally sprung on you all really last minute... :/

ha, this is OTM, but this:

The formatting still looks weird to me, but I painstakingly C&Ped from the list into the form, so it'd better work.

really derailed my otherwise well-planned procrastination. 90% of my time was spent was spent shuttling that fucking spreadsheet back and forth between various versions of Word and Excel, but w/e (+ thanx f/taking my ballot late).

LETS GET READY TO RHUMBLE

Rolling Stone Eat Your Heart Out: The Greatest Rawk Trax of the 1970s ILM/ILX Poll RESULTS

Here she blows:

Rolling Stone Eat Your Heart Out: The Greatest Rawk Trax of the 1970s ILM/ILX Poll RESULTS