Best Song Inspired By Budd Dwyer's Televised Suicide

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R. Budd Dwyer, a politician from Pennsylvania, famously committed suicide during a press conference which was broadcast live throughout the state in 1987. This event would inspire some to look into accusations that he was framed for his conviction (it seems that he was); others were inspired to seek out the video of the event online (no link to this). And four bands were inspired to write a song about it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5igT-BMD8AY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9mJ82x_l-E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3nRwiQZil8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgGWreKAa-8

Which song is the best?

Additionally, the bands Neurosis and Camp Kill Yourself (later CKY) used imagery from or based on the suicide for album cover artwork.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Filter "Hey Man, Nice Shot" 4
Faith No More "The World Is Yours" 1
Ion Dissonance "The Bud Dwyer Effect" 1
Kreator "Karmic Wheel" 0


Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Monday, 28 January 2013 13:11 (twelve years ago)

i thought hey man nice shot was about cobain

maura, Monday, 28 January 2013 13:14 (twelve years ago)

never heard any of those, but Rapeman named a song and EP after the guy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r3fnXoPo

negative people on the internet. (instrumental) (unregistered), Monday, 28 January 2013 13:16 (twelve years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dh0iEkDEkU

Everything You Like Sucks, Monday, 28 January 2013 13:18 (twelve years ago)

The song "Sex, Money, Freaks" from the 1987 Cabaret Voltaire album Code begins with audio of Dwyer's last few moments: his statement "This will hurt someone," the sound of the shot, and a scream.

The Chicago noise-rock band Rapeman titled their 1988 EP Budd after Dwyer.

The Pennsylvania based Punk band Rodent Lord titled a song "Budd Dwyer Blues" off their EP "Anthropocene".

Industrial band Dead World used audio samples of the suicide on the song "this will hurt someone" (1994).

The industrial rock band Marilyn Manson included the sound of his suicide on the song "Get Your Gunn" on their debut album at +2:29 (-:50) Portrait of an American Family (1994).

The 1990s industrial rock band Filter had a hit single "Hey Man Nice Shot" (1995) about Dwyer's suicide.

Audio and video clips of the suicide appear in Emergency Broadcast Network's track "Get Down, Get Down" from their 1995 album Telecommunication Breakdown.

Rapper/musician Charles Hamilton has a song entitled "Bud Dwyer" on his 2010 album Where Is Charles Hamilton?

negative people on the internet. (instrumental) (unregistered), Monday, 28 January 2013 13:22 (twelve years ago)

Where do you get that from? It's way more comprehensive than the Wiki page.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Monday, 28 January 2013 15:16 (twelve years ago)

it's an earlier revision of the Wiki page.

how did so many people see the suicide footage in the '80s and '90s? was there an underground market for VHS gore compilations? I wonder if some of these musicians are posers who only heard audio/transcriptions.

negative people on the internet. (instrumental) (unregistered), Monday, 28 January 2013 15:26 (twelve years ago)

how did so many people see the suicide footage in the '80s and '90s? was there an underground market for VHS gore compilations?

um... yes? You've heard of Faces of Death, right?

Bel-Air the Fresh Prince, sitting in a chair (DJP), Monday, 28 January 2013 15:28 (twelve years ago)

And porn was available before the interweb too!

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Monday, 28 January 2013 15:29 (twelve years ago)

Or so I've been told.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Monday, 28 January 2013 15:30 (twelve years ago)

um... yes? You've heard of Faces of Death, right?

well yeah, but I thought most if it was fake. though it looks like the Dwyer footage appears in Traces] of Death (1993).

negative people on the internet. (instrumental) (unregistered), Monday, 28 January 2013 15:31 (twelve years ago)

Although several of the "human death" scenes are obvious fakes (with Allan A. Apone, make-up and special effects artists for the film saying that about 40% of it is fake),[4] some of the footage is genuine. Famous scenes of death from the media are included, such as stock footage of a napalm bombing in Vietnam, various newsreel footage, and wartime footage of Adolf Hitler. Also featured are the actual on-camera deaths of a variety of animals, including seals being clubbed to death and animals being killed on the slaughterhouse line. The nadir of the film is the inclusion of an extreme fatal accident; the shattered remains of a cyclist are seen under a semi-tractor trailer. The camera pans long enough to capture paramedics scooping up blood clots, brain matter, and clumps of hair from the tarmac – this incident is authentic and culled from newsreels.

Bel-Air the Fresh Prince, sitting in a chair (DJP), Monday, 28 January 2013 15:33 (twelve years ago)

iirc, the footage was also on the Amok Assault Video and Film Threat's TV Sphincter video comp

llurk, Monday, 28 January 2013 16:53 (twelve years ago)

I'd never heard this story. It's terribly sad.

Mule, Monday, 28 January 2013 20:22 (twelve years ago)

On a related note, this might actually someday actually get re-released (though it's already been pushed back for I think years now): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1900486873/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00

Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Monday, 28 January 2013 20:25 (twelve years ago)

I had no idea there was more than just the Filter song.

go to party leather (ENBB), Monday, 28 January 2013 20:57 (twelve years ago)

xpost, yeah and I wonder how many of those songs are "Whoa, cool suicide dude" Unempathisers.

Mark G, Monday, 28 January 2013 21:09 (twelve years ago)

when this happened, my local news aired the footage up the moment when Dwyer opened his mouth with the gun heading toward it, then froze the video and let the audio play. it haunted me for years. I avoided seeing the video until the internet gif-looped it for me, there was a while there where you sort of couldn't avoid it if you read metal boards.

voting for Kreator, that guitar tone owns me even if Kreator's vocals give me the lols.

available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 28 January 2013 21:48 (twelve years ago)

Stopping the video but continuing with the audio would make it even scarier.

pplains, Monday, 28 January 2013 21:54 (twelve years ago)

I somehow managed to not even hear about this whole thing until a ridiculously late period of time, like I want to say some time after 2000? And I love that Filter song, too.

Bel-Air the Fresh Prince, sitting in a chair (DJP), Monday, 28 January 2013 21:55 (twelve years ago)

The scene was obviously horrific, but my imagination at the time - the newscast I saw stopped after he pulls the gun from the paper bag - was much more Hollywood than the real thing. When I finally saw the complete clip, any cinematic valor I had for the event was definitely erased.

Kept me from writing any shitty alt-rock songs at least.

pplains, Monday, 28 January 2013 21:58 (twelve years ago)

i read the wikipedia for this this morning because i couldn't really remember the details, & weirdly a bunch of it is about how stricken the tv people were at not knowing how much of it they should rebroadcast later in the evening. settling on freezeframing was some kind of awkward midpoint between paying a glitzy butch cassidy style hollywood tribute & ensuring maximum retina-burn as a yield from the snuff film they were sitting on.

A number of television stations throughout Pennsylvania broadcast taped footage of Dwyer's suicide to a midday audience. Philadelphia station WPVI (Channel 6) showed Dwyer pulling the trigger and falling backwards, but did not show the bullet path.[15] Over the next several hours, news editors had to decide how much of the graphic footage to air.

spent some of today thinking about what it takes to define restraint as "how about we don't show the bullet path".

we had safety lectures in assemblies at school when we were kids, & would be lead out just before the scene when a kid got his legs creamed by a train, which, being a dramatisation, was probably way less distressing than what your brain filled in the blanks with instead, still haunted by the jerky moment of near destruction in which a child twitched with the crazy rhythm of the vhs pause button astride some train tracks.

rockism against racism (schlump), Monday, 28 January 2013 22:05 (twelve years ago)

how did so many people see the suicide footage in the '80s and '90s? was there an underground market for VHS gore compilations?

Absolutely. llurk remembers correctly, the Dwyer footage was on Amok Assault Video (you could watch the whole thing at the Amok bookstore) and also on the found/ephemeral collage tapes that you could find in Factsheet Five or the Sub-Genius zine The Stark Fist of Removal.

Was always wondering if the Christine Chubbuck on-air suicide (supposedly this event was Chayefsky's inspiration for Network) footage was going to surface, but no go.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 28 January 2013 22:21 (twelve years ago)

Hey, they finally found footage from Super Bowl I, so you never know.

pplains, Monday, 28 January 2013 22:52 (twelve years ago)

it's a kind of relief to me that the Christine Chubbuck footage seems to have been utterly destroyed.

available for sporting events (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 28 January 2013 22:58 (twelve years ago)

I assumed it was only aired live on one local station and was never rebroadcast, unlike the Dwyer thing. Was her death a big news story?

billstevejim, Monday, 28 January 2013 23:16 (twelve years ago)

I remember it being a big national story for several days. It happened right in the middle of when Watergate was going non-linear, there were coups everywhere, and the mood of the news and pretty much everyone was shitty disgust. Chubbuck decried the "blood and guts" of the news in her suicide statement and there was a lot of editorial about how the media pushed violent stories to the front. I remember my dad saying that he didn't blame her for doing it and he got a kick when I showed him the Mad Magazine fold-in that already talked about how cruddy the news was.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 29 January 2013 07:22 (twelve years ago)

Jesus! I didn't know about this Dwyer story until just now... Had no idea about the Filter song, or the Rapeman album name, or any of that. Extremely upsetting. I'll still probably listen to some death metal later today, but damn.

Clarke B., Tuesday, 29 January 2013 14:10 (twelve years ago)

It's even more unsettling watching the video. Which I will not link to but which you can find using a Google search in about four seconds.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 09:26 (twelve years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Thursday, 7 February 2013 00:01 (twelve years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Friday, 8 February 2013 00:01 (twelve years ago)

four years pass...

Watched the Rebecca Hall movie about Chubbuck (good movie but harrowing & difficult to watch) and was searching around - footage of her suicide leaked onto the net in February. Supposedly it's from an in-studio backup negative and in bad quality from a U-matic dub. It's out there and easy enough to find, but there's sufficient dispute around whether it's fake or not.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 9 May 2017 21:52 (eight years ago)

Watched the Rebecca Hall movie about Chubbuck (good movie but harrowing & difficult to watch) and was searching around - footage of her suicide leaked onto the net in February. Supposedly it's from an in-studio backup negative and in bad quality from a U-matic dub. It's out there and easy enough to find, but there's sufficient dispute around whether it's fake or not.

― Elvis Telecom

well, that's disappointing, by which I mean "utterly ghoulish and creepy". i'd look at leaked celebrity nudes first.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Wednesday, 10 May 2017 01:08 (eight years ago)


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