RFD: Madonna

I just wanna dance dance dance!

So is most anything ever recorded, though. ;-)

BEST SONG EVAH?!?!? ;-)

Ha! Brilliant observation, and yes, quite good. Though the lyrics are generally ignorable, but I would say that. ;-)

I'm not sure if anyone's tried glitchy string-riffing electro apart from her

*thinks a bit* Wait, I figured it out. This is the song that trumps Vespertine in sound and intent.

download here

*muffled laughter*

as a sorta aside, both the arcade and the soft pink truth remixes of new bjork single "it's in our hands" PISH all over this madonna song

I am increasingly serious about the random Bjork comparison, though, and you have to look at it from a general point of view. If you describe Vespertine to someone who hasn't heard it ("Well, it's got some glitchy sounds and some strings and...") and then play "Die Another Day" -- well then. :-) I haven't heard these remixes of which yer speak, though (in fact, I didn't even know there was a new Bjork single).

Are they? I don't bother paying attention anymore to what is or isn't dated, honestly. There's too much to keep up with.

haha ned = madonna!

b-b-b-but the strings are barely a vital part of vespertine! there's a way heavier reliance on choral bits, music boxes, harps etc. are bjork and string octects now so inextricably linked that people just assume that violas and somesuch must be buried in the mix somewhere? anyways, the madonna single is, fundamentally, a dance track whereas nothing on vespertine is, so the comparison barely gets off the ground from my pov

final trainspotterish, purely incidental bit of sinewy icelandic fluff: bjork recorded a bond theme post-post but ultimately put the kybosh on its release -> "not enough feeling" (i am very loosely paraphrasing)

oh it's so on.

Yeah, she wanted to be "feeling" some fine Joe Don Baker ass instead. Fuck Pierce Brosnan!

err, okay.

i have no idea who joe don baker is, but i can see already that this is going to be a slap fite. therefore, bedtime!

Use public image here, Mark P, especially in America. Her most notable media appearance in recent years has been for the Oscars a while back (with, of course, strings), and then the album which nobody heard except her fans is bandied about in general crit-speak with the general terms I described above re glitch etc. That's the way I kept hearing about it before it finally came out! I'm not so much interested in the reality of Vespertine -- I have it around here somewhere, I guess it was nice and all but I've only heard it the once -- as the perception of it, and the perception is way more known than the music.

anyways, the madonna single is, fundamentally, a dance track whereas nothing on vespertine is, so the comparison barely gets off the ground from my pov

I dunno! Seems to suggest that Madonna is not afraid of taking it directly to the charts. :-)

And there's plenty of him to love.

ned, 10:32pm: *thinks a bit* Wait, I figured it out. This is the song that trumps Vespertine in sound and intent.

ned, 11:12pm: I'm not so much interested in the reality of Vespertine -- I have it around here somewhere, I guess it was nice and all but I've only heard it the once -- as the perception of it, and the perception is way more known than the music.

anyways, the madonna single is, fundamentally, a dance track whereas nothing on vespertine is, so the comparison barely gets off the ground from my pov

I dunno! Seems to suggest that Madonna is not afraid of taking it directly to the charts. :-)

or just that they're COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

i mean, why does 'fear' have to enter into it? by that logic, dead can dance were a bunch of quivering pussies.

haha andrew did you download the fake off soulseek? that, if i'm not mistaken, is the german eurovision entry circa 1998 or sommat

haha that's it, i wash my hands of this completely. this thread is like a ned raggett bizarro world where you make no sense whatsoever!

Maybe, I dunno. It's an interesting little conceit, and maybe that's all it is. :-) I'd rather hear the Madonna single again over Vespertine, in any event.

i mean, why does 'fear' have to enter into it? by that logic, dead can dance were a bunch of quivering pussies.

Ah, they were making more money for 4AD than anyone else. They never had to be afraid. :-)

as the archives can verify, never to completion. ;)

i'm just saying that listening to a record more than once (in passing, i gather) would probably be a reasonable pre-requisite before speaking for its sound, much less its intent.

far be it from me to oppose anyone's active thought process, but you seem to want the right to comment authoritatively on the music while not having to be too bothered by, er, what it actually sounds like.

i see a bakery box under your bed and icing on your lips!

"Jacques Lacan ......
Jacques Lacan,
Jacques Lacan let me rock you,
Let me rock you Jacques Lacan,
Jacques Lacan, it's all I wanna do...
Jacques Lacan, cuz I feel for you"

Also, "Die Another Day" is fantastic. I really like the glitched out vocals and how it's not just some electroclashy Miss Kittin b-side knock-off.

but then reading a book and notating it v. v. densely hardly makes for compelling television.