Ragged glory: raspy sax, shouty backing vocals, everybody knocking the hell out of their instruments

http://www.youtu.be/watch?v=u5xK9mOjoIg

I always thought I hated the barroom soul sound, but Springsteen doing Spirit In The Night on the Agora 1978 bootleg is rocking my world tonight. See 12:00 to 13:30 of this clip (I can only find the full show, sorry) for the full-on-intensity, sweaty breathless vibe I mean.

But when I put on the studio version, it's really tame in comparison. Obviously I can and will check out more Bruce boots, but other than live stuff what other acts managed to capture this sound on tape?

Van Morrison?

except for the shouty part, James Brown?

Van Morrison might be right. James Brown I dunno, even at his sweatiest he's never ragged, the playing's always somehow clean and precise.

in what universe is James Brown not "shouty"

ismael do you have "it's too late to stop now" by van morrison? that's kinda what i thought of, it's a pretty crazed live album

I do not. I don't mind a bit of mystic Van, but the very idea of pumped Van has put me off; possibly because my parents take him in live every tour he does, idk.

I'll definitely check that out though.

Van @ KSAN 1971 is another great one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDfDJUezCWQ

"raspy sax, shouty backing vocals, everybody knocking the hell out of their instruments" - X-Ray Spex and Essential Logic, surely? But that doesn't really fit with the Springsteen vibe.

the link in the OP didn't work for me, so here's a corrected version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5xK9mOjoIg

stooges 1970.....

MC5 don't alway bring the sax but they get ragged enough....

mingus "blues & roots"

i came to post the ksan van morrison thing, it is at times great. maybe not quite ragged-- a lot of it is really locked in, in all the right ways.

weird hearing him introduce wild night as "our next single, which will come out next week." to me that song has just always existed.

First 2 Waterboys records

MC5 don't alway bring the sax but they get ragged enough....

― m0stlyClean, Wednesday, March 13, 2013 11:28 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"Skunk (Sonically Speaking)" !

(no shouty backing vocals on it, though)

I took this thread at its word:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcgcbCxpCis

This. I love how he keeps whoopin and shouting straight through the sax solo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q30RRaG_6cQ

Some stuff off of Exile by the Stones like ”Rocks Off” and ”Happy” fit this description

”Life is a Carnival” by the Band/Toussaint....esp the Last Waltz

"Rip This Joint"!

Totally

also:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOnzjmZaxhA

Dexy's probably fit in here somewhere amirite?

The Sonics!!

http://www.amiright.com/album-covers/images/album-Lou-Reed-Live-Take-No-Prisoners.jpg

... I think in his addled brain, Lou imagined he was channeling Springsteen on this album

I was thinking about the live Keith Richards & The XPensive Winos album? -- I mean if you want ragged vox

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGEBb9OAZrQ

Rip This Joint is a great shout! Can't believe it wasn't the first thing to spring to mind.

I feel like the way to answer this might be to just follow Bobby Keys around - seems like any band he plays with would naturally gravitate towards this sound.

whaddabout Mad Dogs & Englishmen?

Is The Basement Tapesnot shouty enough? It's plenty ragged.

Isn't there stuff off Street Legal that fits this bill?

Dylan's generally not rowdy enough IMO.....stuff off Before the Flood and The Rolling Thunder Bootleg Series might be coked up enough

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLbyaNbhHdU

wow, that's great. How do I not know this band?

Except for the lack of sax, The Hold Steady would fit here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji4_s-_6oPc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RBvVgRx7B8

Although this one is even better:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLvJURWKISw

Tom Waits at his more lively?

Hold Steady is way too studied to qualify

"New Morning"-era Dylan and the Rolling Thunder stuff is kind of the closest he gets

I cited Mad Dogs & Englishmen above; was thinking about the first Leon Russell album too but it's really on "Delta Lady" where they hit this, & there's a very ragged version of that on Mad Dogs & Englishmen!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOz6Mt2t084

Little Richard in general, and "Long Tall Sally" in particular.

Must be something off of a David Lynch soundtrack that fits the description, maybe something off Lost Highway or Fire Walk With Me?

I was wondering about Janis Joplin? Ball & Chain has the vibe in spades, but I don't think there's any brass on it.

Ragged Glory: The Barroom Soul Sound

I've been exploring some of the avenues on this thread, and here's the mix I came up with. Judging by how seldom these artists crop up here, I think I may have stumbled upon ILM's least-favourite genre.

Cato Salsa Experience & The Thing do Louie Louie?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqrgSpjaWp0

Jerry Lee Lewis - Long Tall Sally
Full Tilt Boogie Band - Ball And Chain
The JBs - Hot Pants Road
Van Morrison - I Believe In My Soul
Charles Mingus - Moanin'
Big Mama Thornton - Ball And Chain
Full Tilt Boogie Band - Ball And Chain
Legendary Stardust Cowboy - Paralyzed
Rolling Stones - Rip This Joint
Little Richard - Long Tall Sally
James Brown - Get Up, Get Into It, Get Involved
Lyn Collins - Rock Me Again And Again And Again
The Saints - Know Your Product
The Band - The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down
Waterboys - A Girl Called Johnny
Bob Dylan - Baby, Stop Crying
Joe Cocker - Delta Lady
Deadly Snakes - I Gotta Plan For Saturday Night
Joe Cocker - Delta Lady
MC5 - Skunk
Sonics - Like No Other Man
James Brown - People Get Up And Drive That Funky Soul
Rocket From The Crypt - On A Rope
Bruce Springsteen - Spirit In The Night
Janis Joplin & Tom Jones - Raise Your Hand

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM1avmMR84U

This is where the last song on the mix comes from. It's incredible. I think I must never have seen Janis Joplin before, because I've never seen a performer with charisma quite like this.

Apparently Tom Jones was disapproving of the performance - he reckoned it was more shouting than singing. He's an eternal pro for all that, but check out how uncomfortable and stiff he looks.

always thought I didn't like Janis until watching Monterey Pop & "Ball & Chain" & then I got it

nice mix btw!

Finally listened to the mix, great stuff.
Saints was a real standout for me, hadn't heard that before.
Also, I really like this type of thread: Request for examples of a certain sound, Lots of Suggestions, and then a mix to wrap it up. We should do this more often....