Is dissing your own new album/single immediately before/after release the new black or something?

Serious question. It's like an insecurity thing, just done by Lil Wayne and Tyler (and probably others), lame

Like "I'm gonna beat the critics/haters to the punch"

"I have no clue why I recorded and released this garbage, this shit sucks, fuck me"

I know people have done this in the past, but it's it turning into a trend?

tyler said Wolf sucks? sweet dude - goblin BLEW and you'd think he'd try a little harder. haven't heard it yet tho

haven't noticed this, and I'm just speculating here, but could be a way of 1) disarming critics, 2) humblebragging, 3) implying that some record company's control over your repertoire is ruining your style and therefore is a public plea for some other record company to come save you from them

Didn't the 8eta Band do this with their debut album years ago?

My take on this. Though it probably doesn't apply to the records mentioned upthread...

Every musician has a copy of Logic or Pro Tools and makes a demo version that they're emotionally attached to. Then the finished record goes through the combined braintrust of producer, fancy studio, proper mastering etc... and doesn't sound as personal to them as the demo.

I have this discussion w/ musicians about 5-10 times a year.

Leckie and Mark E. Smith argued during the recording, with Smith complaining that "he'd always swamp everything, y'know, put the psychedelic sounds over it". Leckie, for his part, drew the line at Smith's insistence that some tracks be mastered from a standard audio cassette which Smith had been carrying around and listening to on a Walkman.

I remember back in the early 90s Del the FH badmouthing his debut album while he was doing promotion for it, saying that it didn't represent his current style and that he'd already evolved past that kind of music

noz's column this month shows it may apply to tyler's record, oblique http://pitchfork.com/features/hall-of-game/9094-lo-fi-hi-fi-no-fi-rules/

i think w/ Tyler it's just part of his whole self-deprecating thing, his twitter handle is 'fuck tyler' etc.

w/ Wayne it's the bizarre situation where he's the biggest star in music who doesn't remotely call the shots on his own records, he just records and records and then his label throws together the albums and he always seems surprised and/or disappointed what songs they end up using

relevant listicle from the listicle farm: http://www.complex.com/music/2013/01/a-recent-history-of-rappers-hating-on-their-own-music/

Didn't the 8eta Band do this with their debut album years ago?

― Rob M Revisited

Yeah the week the album came out they were on the front of the NME with the headline "our albums rubbish" It was pretty shocking at the time. They were wrong about that though.

I seem to remember when Amy Winehouse put out her first album in a few interviews she mentioned how she was really unhappy with her album and that the record company were pushing her in a direction she didn't like.

I know the last Strokes album came with those uncomfortable interviews about how the album was recorded, can't remember exactly if any of them actually slagged the album off or just how it was made. I'm sure if they were doing interviews now they would be saying how poor that album was. Of course bands slagging off their last albums is really common, especially indie bands. Suede hated A New Morning, Mansun hated Little Kix and Noel Gallagher has hated every album he's made since Definitely Maybe.

http://mobile.collectorsfrenzy.com/gallery/160850790589.jpg

iirc, Wolf disparaged this record, publicly and frequently, as "dogshit."