Songs in 4/4 with that 1-2-3-1-2-3-4-5 structure, ex. "Under Control" by The Strokes

I know there are loads of songs that do this but I can't think of any others.

If I recall correctly from music class, it isn't that the first bar is 1-2-3 (or whatever simple/compound you want), but that it misses the first beat and places it at the end of the, e.g., riff. So really it is:

| - 2 3 4 | 1 2 3 4 | 1 2 3 4 5 |

Where '-' is a rest.

Or am I remembering this incorrectly? I've not heard that Strokes song to really understand what you're saying.

no I think he means it has a 123/12345 feel because the bassline anticipates the second bar by a beat, so the guitar might be going 1234/1234, but the bass is playing off 1//4////, giving it that 123/12345 feeling.

I'm pretty sure there are a million R&B slow jams like this but I just can't think of one. It's definitely a common R&B thing.

"Sharp Shock" - The Yeah Yeah Yeahs
"Maps" - The Yeah Yeah Yeahs
"Bonita Applebum" - A Tribe Called Quest
"Oodles of O's" - De La Soul
"U Don't Have To Call" - Usher
"Croton-Harmon" - Walt Mink
"Justify My Love" - Madonna
"Frozen" - Madonna

about 90% of the hardcore/jungle/d&b tracks that used the "Funky Drummer" or "Amen" breaks

etc etc etc

I guess you could say the "ooh! - ah!" in Chain Gang is like this

actually "Hysteric" by The Yeah Yeah Yeahs does this too

First thing that comes to mind is "Chester Burnette" by That Petrol Emotion.

xp actually I guess in under control the guitar follows the feel too

this question is basically asking "list songs that contain syncopation" which is a gigantic amount of music

well one specific kind of syncopation tbf

Yeah, Hurting is right. It's more about the chord changing a beat before the second bar than about the beat. I've been going through a lot of my old blues/R&B trying pin down more of these to no avail.

you mean like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Qdp4hBYaa4

or like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX65x-WN4NQ

or even this going by you description even though it doesn't have the right feel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqJJwv_Caaw

Oh, I see. Cool. Yah, there are quite a few songs like that. Let me think about the ones I really like and will post them later.

I get that your examples have similar syncopation in their beats but I'm talking more about that slow dragging 60s R&B pattern and feel that the Strokes used for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkEA2BJOhxo

Listening to the Strokes song in question (which I'd never actually heard before), I see that you're actually more talking about stuff like "Don't Call Me Joe" by Sinead O'Connor:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAd1B3MpqZs

also, "Say It Ain't So" by Weezer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENXvZ9YRjbo

Yes, exactly that! I'm fairly ignorant of most music theory, what would've been a better way for me to describe that?

a better way would have been for me to have actually listened to the Strokes song in question before answering, tbh

then there's this perennial ILM fave that dips in and out of this pattern with the music in the sample while the beat heavily rides the type of syncopation I was talking about:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbqVg_23otg

basically anticipating the chord change on an upbeat instead of waiting for the 1.

Beautiful day - U2
That annoying coldplay song with the piano riff

I used to think this was called a hemiola, but I looked up the wiki and now I'm not sure.