D'Angelo - Black Messiah (2014)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X67rCZ5SZIk

that "please" is doing a lot of work

i want to believe

DON'T JINX IT

try the video. it's good times.

i watched the other ones, i love how they're able to function as a tight band w/no rehearsal because they all have that common vocabulary of Prince's stage cues ("on the 1" = stop, then come back with "good god!" where "god" always falls on beat 3, etc). i mean i know it all comes from james brown, but it's really specific Prince shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQnHY8u18A4&feature=player_detailpage#t=261s

the groove @ 4:22

just snagged tickets to the williamsburg show, psyched to see him being him

https://soundcloud.com/soundbetter/dangelo-questlove-at-theatre

this is quite good from what ive heard so far, even if it could have been recorded in 2001 (not that i dislike it, but it just seems a bit of a shame, hes still playing the same old rap instrumentals, pretty much the same old covers he was doing in 96... why?!), rather than march of this year. i dont have much faith in his comeback really yielding anything that amazing at this point. and it seems kinda fucked up that bilal is still releasing good records, and actually has a strong identity of his own, while were all still waiting for dangelo to make the album we all thought he could make...

actually, this is pretty great (even if it is covers). from the 57 min mark, its pretty special. and just makes me more frustrated at his general lack of output. argh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj0ifXB-qUg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfTEa0xObSA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fEAOLQI6vI

enough already! (as the americans say)

expecting this to be out end of 2015.

2014 please?

ugh. i have a feeling we're going to have to wait for the confluence of D both being ready to let go of the record + being sober enough to do the promo and tour.

quest keeps getting my hopes up

quest is 100 PERCENT on some "if i shame him about this enough in public maybe he'll be motivated to finish it up and get it out" shit

has he said anything recently?

i don't remember. but when they played brooklyn almost a year ago that was totally the vibe i got from quest.

they both said the album was done a year ago!

quest said was 98% done when i saw them iirc

close enough

right, a year ago, i figured if quest has been silent since then we're in trouble. not to mention the cancelled shows and drug rumors. i'm still holding on to hope though.

close enough

haha

he's doing a poor job of shaming dangelo in that case (i dont think he is doing that in any case, i think hes too aware of dangelo's mental fragility, he doesnt want to upset things too much, beyond airing some frustration and playful digs about his career inertia - dangelo wont let the new record be heard until hes laboured it to death most likely)

http://www.factmag.com/2014/03/06/dangelo-announces-expanded-reissue-of-1996s-live-at-the-jazz-cafe/

on the one hand this will be nice, i've never heard it

on the other hand it's not the new album

it's really good, wish there had been an official record for the Voodoo tour though.

check yr mail lex

thankyou!!

http://nyc.redbullmusicacademy.com/#a-conversation-with-dangelo

daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn

http://insideplaya.wordpress.com/2014/05/25/an-open-letter-to-dangelo/

ha the effect of this letter putting in D'angelo on blast is mostly that it makes me want to listen to D'angelo

I hope he replies with a new album.

Word

Dag. Bridge: burned.

who is "inside playa"?

Yes, wonder that too, and how is his dissing everyone gonna help

it's gary harris

seems like an asshole!

also petulant? what's the point of this beyond some dude feeling aggrieved about being written out of history

the last paragraph seems especially bitchy (it's true I don't hear a lot of James or George in his music, but Sly definitely. Prince too)

hard out here for an A&R guy

sounds like a good friend!

http://afropunkfest.com/
he's headlining

Billboard a week ago:

In March of 2013, Liles told Billboard, "We're trying to finish the album. Right now we have 13 songs done, trying to think about the sequence of the album, mastering and mixing within the next two weeks, and release the thing. Ain't no question it's coming."

Judging by that tectonic pace, the album actually should be just about approximately almost 100 percent done right about now. Here's what Liles said:

"Here's the thing: with D'Angelo it was a process. He didn't perform for 10 years and he's been working on an album for the past 12 years. I actually got him to go out and do 30 shows (in 2011-2012), and then we did some 'Brothers in Arms' shows. I said, 'We have to get motivated around what people want to hear from you, and what does it mean to come back to that space?' He very bluntly put it, 'Kev, the studio and the stage: that's my lifeblood. Now that I've touched it again, now that I see it again, I wanna be sure that the baby I'm about to have -- the album -- that I take it to the point where it's all it can be.'

"There'll be an album this year: there's 14 records so far, we might have a couple of bonus records, but all the recording is basically done and we're mixing and mastering now. Definitely, he'll be back.

Claiming he has 14 records ready to go sort of undercuts even the modest claim that he even has one record ready to go.

"record" = song

yeah, usually modern industry guys say 'record' and mean song, not album.

(that usage confused me when i first heard it but now i hear it all the time from people in the rap world)

xp

Sorry, was confused, because he calls them songs earlier.

Anyway, not holding my breath.

lol yeah mixing and mastering only two weeks haha

I hope he finishes the album and then keeps it to himself because it's too good and the world is not ready yet

He means two weeks, total, not in a row. Like, one hour one week, three the next, third week off, one year off, two days in a row ...

alrighty then

Anyway I think with every album dangelo is becoming more dangelo-y

I’ve owned Brown Sugar for more than 20 years and I can’t remember a damn thing about it. Bought it after I’d got into Voodoo at uni. Played it a couple of times, didn’t click, been on a shelf ever since. I should do something about this, yeah?

I think so.

It's very 90s sounding now. A man cant do Rhodes and hip hop drums forever.

*boom bap drums/crunch/thump etc

I’m happy to spin Brown Sugar. I’m happy that afterward he went in the direction he went.

exactly

Brown sugar the actual song has not aged well.

is that a stones joke

comparing drugs to women is always corny and problematic but i don't see what makes it that much worse than the rest of the album

Not much worse, just that the best songs on there are better. Its melodically weak too. Instrumental is good though. Good to vibe to.

Back to black messiah though. Not to get all stevehoffman, but i I bought it on vinyl thinking that would be the perfect format but the CD seems to handle it better, esp 1000 deaths.

categorically disagree that the melody for brown sugar is weak. rhythm is as important to a melody as range and variation

it’s definitely true that d’s melodies grew much more complex by the time black messiah came around, hard to imagine “another life” appearing on either of the first two albums

does the organ/falsetto hook on BS count as part of the melody? i could listen to that all day

The hook is good, thats true, I was thinking of the verses.

"categorically disagree that the melody for brown sugar is weak. rhythm is as important to a melody as range and variation"

Thanks for your input. However I didn't comment on the rhythm, I commented on the tunefulness, specifically the verses. To compare to another rnb weed song, its hardly Mary Jane by Rick james.

what the actual hell

I commented on the tunefulness, specifically the verses.

you...didn’t, actually?

nvm i already regret engaging

BLACK MESSIAH IS THE GREATEST ALBUM OF ALL TIME

the thing is, though, it might be.
and it definitely is of 2010-2020

"nvm i already regret engaging"

Already regret you engaging too.

Your engaging = kneejerk defensiveness

gasp!

cant really take any of your opinions on dangelo seriously after your claim in another thread that untitled had nothing to do with prince.

man

Black Messiah is definitely an album I put on for "fun", I am always glad I put it on

how does it feeeeeeel

clearly a tribute to like a rolling stone, and i won’t hear opinions to the contrary

Oh wait, how does Beck work into this conversation?

‘The Door’…ffs what a mood killer that tune is

Seriously can't believe the lack of mentions for Voodoo when discussing D'Angelo's finest piece. It captured something culturally as well as musically which I don't think the others did in the same way. It's his defining statement in my opinion.

new song, with jay-z and jeymes samuel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOCRO4lJkKM

Wow, 9.5 minutes. I was listening without looking and thought it was a nice tune about to end, and then there was Jay talking and 5+ min of strings and guitar vamping. Happy to hear anything though, sounds like something that would be on a Badu album, or a lost P Funk jam. Sounds Questlove on drums, ofc.

Loving that.

sounds like something that would be on a Badu album

*knocks down ten people rushing to listen to it*

that's interesting, yes. but how does that jeymes samuel album have a fucking terry callier feature!??!

Real Mothership vibe here.

Get a feeling that this isn’t new…might of been left over from Black Messiah…

i don't think it's from the black messiah sessions because some of the musicians credited on it weren't on black messiah at all

This had me from the first cymbal hit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OEzt6Y2oRU

really worth watching. little tune played at the end is gold

and parade is the correct answer, yeah

that was a treat, thanks for sharing.

"riot going on" vs "stand" as "intro funk album" is such a fine line

cuz "riot going on" is better as an album but it's just
_exceptional_

the sly stone story is so sad because it's true

he hasn't _lost_ anything, it's all _there_

he just can't get to it reliably, it's buried under all this other awful shit

the drugs and trauma and shit

breaks my fucking heart

cuz whereas with brian wilson, i mean

maybe this is harsh, but it's what people say, that there just wasn't much of him left, that there was maybe 10% of him left by the '80s

but with sly, i don't get the sense that he's lost a damn thing

Worse ways to spend an hour:

https://nelsongeorge.substack.com/p/dangelo-and-questlove-722013

i was at this show, it was very special. they did do some d'angelo songs at the end, not sure if they're in this recording. i definitely remember them doing "lady." my other lasting memory is questlove imploring the crowd to cheer loudly to convince d'angelo to release a new album, saying that if we cheered really loud it might convince him, in that distinct tone of voice one has when they're saying something that sounds like it's a joke but really isn't

at brooklyn bowl a year ago quest was like "the album is 98% done!" but still literally made the crowd cheer as loud as possible so that d'angelo would understand how badly we wanted to hear the new album

it was kinda sad

― le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, June 25, 2014 5:02 PM (ten years ago)

wait i posted about it in this thread, lol

With word from Raphael Saadiq that he’s been back in the studio

https://consequence.net/2024/09/dangelo-new-album-raphael-saadiq/

oh i'd missed this from a few weeks ago! exciting

There was an interview with one of his engineers in Tape Op earlier in the year who confirmed that D has been recording this whole time, they just never know when or if it's going to come out.

i'm sure i've said this already in this thread, but at the listening event where they first played this album, nelson george (who was emceeing) said that, essentially, he and questlove had to wrest control of the album from d'angelo once they were able to get it to a certain level of completeness, bcuz if they didn't do that then he probably would've have just been happy recording forever w/o ever releasing anything