Peter Hook vs. Simon Gallup BASS-OFF POLL!

oh jesus

haha!

finally a thread about New Order and the Cure

No more searching in vain.

finally a thread about New Order and the Cure

― we're up all night to get relegated (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, April 30, 2013 4:48 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I know, right!?!?!

I once interviewed Robert Smith and asked him if he wrote songs like "Disintegration" just to mess with Simon, and he laughed and said that Simon actually likes to play the long songs where the bass does the same thing over and over again!

This what neglected topic? This strangely what topic? This strangely neglected what?

I once interviewed Robert Smith and asked him if he wrote songs like "Disintegration" just to mess with Simon, and he laughed and said that Simon actually likes to play the long songs where the bass does the same thing over and over again!

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, April 30, 2013 4:51 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Still, there must be some nights where playing 15 minute versions of 'Faith' feels like a bit of an endurance test!

Re: Disintegration, I was always under the impression that while Robert wrote all the lyrics on the album, the music came from various other band members (I recall hearing that 'Homesick' was based on one of Lol's ideas, for example?)...

This what neglected topic? This strangely what topic? This strangely neglected what?

― Blue Yodel No. 9 Dream (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, April 30, 2013 4:51 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I once neglected a Topic by leaving it on a windowsill. It melted, natch.

Simon actually did the music for 'Fascination Street' and 'Lovesong.'

Simon because he's turned out to be much less of a douche.

Remember the 80s? such good times

who'm I kidding tho I opened the thread. voting Gallup just because Hook is the worst human being

robin williams did a pretty good job of humanising him in that one film i thought

Simon because he's turned out to be much less of a douche.

Yeah, I was tempted to lean Simon anyway, but Peter Hook's de-evoltion into a total cockface puts him out of contention.

Simon must be rich off the money his dad made with all those polls

Remember the 80s? such good times

― not feeling those lighters (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, April 30, 2013 5:56 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Wait... wut... the '80s are over!? But these two bands still exist, and OMD and Depeche have new records out, and PSB have a new one coming out and and and...

Simon must be rich off the money his dad made with all those polls

― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, April 30, 2013 6:00 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Hahaha!

Wait... wut... the '80s are over!? But these two bands still exist, and OMD and Depeche have new records out, and PSB have a new one coming out and and and...

no I know I'm just a big old cranky grampa. got a lot of facebook friends whose sole actual engagement with music is via the lens of their formative years (or post-formative I guess - teens through early twenties) and it's sad to me, to a point where I get reactionary about seeing any of these names crop up, since it's not like they haven't gotten their due over the years (or in the case of Depeche Mode, much more than their due). but I shouldn't do that on ilm; hardly anybody here is on the The Music Was So Much Better Then YouTube commenter tip that seems to be the fate of...like...everybody who isn't obsessed with music

Yeah, I understand what you're getting at. I mean, I will admit to loving a LOT of '80s music but I still try to check out new releases. I like a lot of '60s and '70s music too, but even I have to let out a massive sigh whenever I see phrases like "real music" or Facebook groups called "Pink Floyd - Led Zeppelin - The Rolling Stones" etc.

Both wrote some cool basslines, but Gallup stuck with it. Hook went for the top-line w/loads of shitty, warbly clone theory, his sound from 82 onwards is just the worst.

Man's Fate: http://www.theonion.com/articles/area-mans-popculture-references-stop-at-1988,469/

Both wrote some cool basslines, but Gallup stuck with it.

Hook wrote a million more, and Smith wrote more cool Cure basslines than Gallup

also Gallup has the cheek to make all his fights with Smith and quittings of the band so private that we often don't know about them until Smith talks about it years later, instead of mouthing off in the press and being hilarious, what a spoilsport

Hook is a twat, but this is about memorable basslines, not likability. And in that dept. it's not even close.

I enjoyed Peter Hook's book about Joy Division but haven't reallly been paying attention to him for decades like many others.

For me this boils down to, like, "Regret" vs. "Let's Go To Bed." Not an easy choice.

this is hard but who am i kidding. Simon Gallup.

For me this boils down to, like, "Regret" vs. "Let's Go To Bed." Not an easy choice.

Gallup doesn't play on the latter, I don't think, so the choice is clear.

Both have such a distinct bass sound, but it's so similar to each other. Is it high-fretted, run through a chorus pedal? That's what it sounds like.

This being ILM, Gallup will win; in a poll of folks with ears and brains, Hook would walk away with it.

OTM. Cure were good for a few tunes but not much mjore.

And Steve Severin was before both of them anyway!

Barry Adamson, Derek Forbes, Dave Allen, Jah Wobble, gimme one of those guys

http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/images/artists/jah-wobble.jpg

There you go!

Indeed but I'm pretty sure Severin did the "I wonder how playing two strings instead of one would sound" thing as well - tho I haven't heard the Banshees for years tbh

rather cheering to me to see the Hook-worship so prevalent out there in indie-land hasn't got a stranglehold on ilm. he's good, writes nice lines, but he's also kind of a one-trick pony - he does The Peter Hook Sound. On every track he plays on. He makes sure you know it's him. Yngwie Hook just representing on the track for you all, glad you came to hear what I do because that's what you're gonna get

you're welcome

Peter Hook is great and I consider him to be a transformative bass player.

Voted Gallup because duh

On every track he plays on. He makes sure you know it's him

I hope so! Whenever I hear a Motown track, I know it's James Jamerson.

B-b-but every once in while it's Bob Babbitt. Or even Wilton Felder.

And now the former two are dead, so we will never know for sure!

Robert Smith plays bass on "Let's Go To Bed."

Bonus trivia: the drums are by Steve Goulding of the Rumour/Mekons!

You know that old joke about a young guitarist stopping at a roadhouse in the deep South for a beer? "Oh, you play guitar," says the bartender noticing the gig bag draped over his shoulder, "well, you're in luck, 'cause Blind Lemon Pledge is playing tonight." "Who's that?" "He's the greatest guitar player alive." So the guitarist sticks around. The band comes on an hour later, and they're just a bar blooz band, nothing special, but the guitarist notices the blind man with a prehistoric and extremely abused Telecaster waiting for his solo. So the second verse of "Got My Mojo Working" ends, and the old blind man begins to play and it is glorious -- the tone, the rhythm, the intensity, it's like the guy is pouring all of his existence into his solo and communicating directly into the young carpetbagger guitarist's soul.

And he's only playing one note. One glorious, transcendent note, over and over again, and it sounds incredible. The young guitarist in deeply moved, and deeply confused.

The first set goes on for about a half hour, and Blind Lemon Pledge continues to only play that one note, and it continues to be some of the most beautiful blues soloing the young guitarist has ever heard. So when Blind Lemon goes to the bar at the set break, the young sets upon him immediately. "Mr. Pledge?" he says, "My name is Stevie Ray, and I'm a guitar player, and I think that was some of the best blues playing I've ever heard." "Well, thank you, young man." "But sir, I don't understand something -- I've been studying and playing the blues for years, and I know all the greats -- Johnson, Hopkins, Waters, even BB King -- and they all play several different notes. But you, you only play one note! WHY???"

"Oh," says the blind man, smiling, "those guys are all still looking for it. I found it a long time ago."

That's Peter Hook in New Order.

someone should have told Hooky to leave Blind Lemon Pledge alone

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs51/f/2009/329/f/a/We_Need_More_Lemon_Pledge_by_narutobakasan.jpg

don't forget he's a top quality dj too

http://intergalactic-music.co.uk/assets/uploads/Events/hooky%20banner.jpg

http://peterstaessens.be/dj_peter_hook/2007/brussels/03.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_nrvxxVM7Ux4/Sk428Z85N8I/AAAAAAAAAOM/Tcjdg16WXOU/s400/P_Hook.jpg

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02510/collier_new_2510877b.jpg

Damn. I own the shirt in the second photo.

loved your work on "Sunrise"

He's the guy still looking or he's the guy he found the note?

In recent JD memoir he says he developed his signature sound because he bought a used amp - after answering an ad that turned out to be from an old teacher of his who moonlighted in a rock band, much like the guidance counselor on Freaks and Greeks- and the amp did not produce the lower frequencies properly.

Mr. Hook is Mr. Pledge.

"What do mean I'm fired? I'm Blind Lemon Pledge, you assholes!"
"Your note is E. We played one blues in Eb tonight and two in F. Fuck you."

Damn. I own the shirt in the second photo.

In Soviet Russia.....

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

I think some of the cool bass stuff in The Cure is really the down tuned baritone guitar stuff that Robert Smith does.

I really wish that David J. was included in this (would vote for him over the other two)

I think some of the cool bass stuff in The Cure is really the down tuned baritone guitar stuff that Robert Smith does.

― earlnash, Monday, May 6, 2013 12:16 PM (8 hours ago)

Standard six-string bass tuning is actually: B-E-A-D-G-C. The four in the middle are the same as a 4-string bass (E-A-D-G), with a low B on the bottom and a high C on the top.

Nope. There are two different kinds of six-string bass guitar; EADGBE an octave down was around long before Anthony Jackson came up with what he calls Contrabass tuning, and it continues to survive.

Hook used a six-string sometimes, like on "Blue Monday." Was that a six-string bass as well?

Infamous vid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTb2rZ0SBg4

Shergold called it a six-string bass, and I would too. 30" scale length.

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

lol

*groans*