What makes recent ska so shitty to some? And where did they all come from?

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Perhaps not living in Orange County, CA for a while has tempered my previously bitter views about punk/ska/pop bands, but I've become far more tolerant of it, it seems.... possibly because it's not longer so omnipresent on MTV.

Was it the quirkiness? Or the monotous nature of its quirkiness, and that many of the bands sounded the same? (HO HO, never heard that criticism in any musical genre before)

Sound off!

And come to think of it, I'm actually kinda amazed where they all came from, because forming a ska band is pretty damn difficult, now that I think about it. You need to get along with at least 10 people in a band context, and many of those band members have to know how to play brass, which ain't easy. And musically, ska isn't that easy.

Yet still, ska bands have been often referred to as "dime a dozen" in most places, whereas trashy unschooled drone/art rock bands or what have you, are slim pickins' relatively, despite having no musical pre-requisites necessary.

― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 00:35 (twenty-three years ago)

the key, you see, was the combination of punk & ska as "perfected" by operation ivy (and later rancid, to some degree), which excised the need for the horn section, streamlined the rhythms, and made it more accessible (read: aggressive) to a wider audience. just like disco! (ha ha.)

― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 00:47 (twenty-three years ago)

high school kids like punk
high school kids play trumpet in high school band
high school kids form ska bands comprised of high school kids who can't really play or write songs and whose main influences are mustard plug
that's why they're are so many of them and why they suck

― ddd, Tuesday, 8 October 2002 02:00 (twenty-three years ago)

It's because Propagandhi said so.

― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 02:25 (twenty-three years ago)

talk about PROPER ska, its MUCH better - most skapunk seems to contain very few elements of either ska or punk which is baffling altho listening to some of The Selecter you can trace the links, but gimme Prince Buster and his tribute band The Specials everytime

― blueski, Tuesday, 8 October 2002 09:59 (twenty-three years ago)

oh and i forgot to mention Bad Manners which is an even clearer link

― blueski, Tuesday, 8 October 2002 10:00 (twenty-three years ago)

why?
the 'n' factor.
coz real ska goes boom-n-ska-n-cha-n-ska-n
whereas shitty ska-punk goes boom-ska-boom-ska

REMEMBER THE 'N'!!!

― Keith McD (Keith McD), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 11:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Played too fast, without sufficient swing. Also, mostly played by apparent idiots.

― Lee G (Lee G), Tuesday, 8 October 2002 14:05 (twenty-three years ago)

Also easy to play and much cooler than hard core as a fashion statement.

― brg30 (brg30), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 00:22 (twenty-three years ago)

I think the high school marching band hypothesis merits investigation.

― Kris (aqueduct), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 01:15 (twenty-three years ago)

Seems logical to me. After all, what did they do after high school if they didn't play in a college band?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 01:22 (twenty-three years ago)

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