Is removing the music from a game like stripping an album of the packaging?
What video game music stays with you?
― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 11:45 (twenty-two years ago)
As for staying with you, I have the themes to Super Mario Brothers, Metroid and Zelda's outdoor one on instant memory recall.
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 11:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 11:54 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 12:03 (twenty-two years ago)
Is there something to be said for the minimalistic music employed here. I should dig up NES sound documentation to show how primitive the facilities employed in these games was.
― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 12:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 12:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― Keith McD (Keith McD), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 12:19 (twenty-two years ago)
Also - Nobuo Uematsu's work for Squaresoft.
― Ess Kay (esskay), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 12:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ess Kay (esskay), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 12:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― MarkH (MarkH), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 12:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 13:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― sf, Wednesday, 9 October 2002 13:23 (twenty-two years ago)
― Rahul Kamath (Rahul Kamath), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 15:03 (twenty-two years ago)
http://www.readsatellite.com/temp/robhubbard.doc
http://www.readsatellite.com/temp/comic.jpg
― Rahul Kamath (Rahul Kamath), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 15:16 (twenty-two years ago)
The Super Mario Brothers Theme supposedly being played by the London Symphony Orchestra
The Super Mario Brothers Theme supposedly being played by Mr. Bungle
― Rahul Kamath (Rahul Kamath), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 15:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― nutz, deez, Wednesday, 9 October 2002 15:35 (twenty-two years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 15:55 (twenty-two years ago)
Music for Zelda Ocarina of Time was k-fantastic, particularly Saria's song -- which, yes, I have listened to outside of the game context and enjoyed possibly more.
The question got complicated as soon as disc-based systems were introduced and "actual" music could be put on them: Wipeout XL, the Japanese dancing game Bust a Move, and Grand Theft Auto all have "imported" stand-alone studio recordings on them that I enjoy.
― nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 16:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 16:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 16:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 16:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 16:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― drags, Wednesday, 9 October 2002 16:21 (twenty-two years ago)
three mile pilot's chief assassin to the sinister has a few obscure video game refs, most notably "androsyn guardian".
― gygax!, Wednesday, 9 October 2002 16:42 (twenty-two years ago)
Video game music appreciation site: remix.overclocked.org
― Underclocked, Wednesday, 9 October 2002 16:43 (twenty-two years ago)
huh? Isn't that a BIBLE reference?
― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 16:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 16:51 (twenty-two years ago)
lucasarts' the dig had great music but i can't remember how much of it was just made of up of wagner excerpts. ("mitch do you like hitler?")
― Mitch Lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 16:55 (twenty-two years ago)
well yes...
but if you've ever played that video game where your driving the Ferrari you may know what i'm talking about...
― gygax!, Wednesday, 9 October 2002 16:57 (twenty-two years ago)
― Kris (aqueduct), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 16:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― chaki (chaki), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 17:01 (twenty-two years ago)
pitchfork!
― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)
the Tekken soundtracks are great - i like Yoshimitus's theme from Tekken 3
― blueski, Wednesday, 9 October 2002 17:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― Honda, Wednesday, 9 October 2002 17:20 (twenty-two years ago)
Yes! The music to Secret of Mana is beautiful, especially the main theme (with the flutes), and there's some really nice orchestral writing in Actraiser too -- very rich, intelligent, creative. The SNES is probably my all-time favorite platform for video game music -- it's poised right between the two eras, with a palette that's rich enough to be totally convincing, but not so broad as to lose the distinctive flavor of the old-school stuff. Other favorites for SNES include the usual Mario/Zelda/Metroid suspects, as well as a couple less-known games like Drakkhen and Spiderman and X-Men: Arcade's Revenge, which has some pretty tremendous disco-funk music laden with wah-wah guitar and horn stabs. Mario Paint had some nice ambient music hidden in various sections on the cart.
Other platforms: I haven't played much in the way of Genesis games, but Ecco the Dolphin is definitely right up there. On the NES, besides the obvious ones (i.e. the original versions of the usual suspects above), I was always quite taken with the music to Xexyz -- it had a remarkably haunting and self-consistent soundworld. The opening theme to Marble Madness bears a pleasing resemblance to a section just before the end of the first movement of Debussy's La Mer. And The Adventures of Dino Riki had a charming little jaunty theme in the opening stage.
― Phil (phil), Wednesday, 9 October 2002 17:58 (twenty-two years ago)
check out especially (free mp3s on that site):
-contra (OH MY GOD)-kraid/metroid (OH MY GOD)-ghosts n goblins (etc)-wizards n warriors (etc)-mike tyson's punchout! (etc)-megaman 2 and double dragon (if they've been put online yet, i dunno) -castlevania
um yeah. up up down down left right left right b a select start!! (i'm talkin 2-player)
― geeta (geeta), Thursday, 10 October 2002 01:29 (twenty-two years ago)
― original bgm, Thursday, 10 October 2002 01:44 (twenty-two years ago)
Oh, and I can't believe nobody's touched on Hamburg's wonderful L'Age D'Or label - http://www.lado.de/ - who've long been flying the computer-games-done-weirdly flag:
http://www.enduro-disks.de/images/illu/output64/output64-cd-cover.gif
is the one that you want, yes it is - Add N To (X), Jeans Team, Plundersonics et al twist loads of, uh, old Commodore 64 tunes into wikkid shapes.
― Charlie (Charlie), Thursday, 10 October 2002 02:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― Leee (Leee), Thursday, 10 October 2002 02:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― geeta (geeta), Thursday, 10 October 2002 03:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 10 October 2002 04:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― blueski, Thursday, 10 October 2002 11:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Thursday, 10 October 2002 11:40 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 10 October 2002 14:15 (twenty-two years ago)
I have to be honest and admit that had, say, the Super Mario Brothers theme (which I completely adore) been released completely outside the video game or the industry itself, I would have overlooked as muzak. The nostalgia is the main appeal.
HOWEVER...
The limitations placed upon how much resolution the music could contain back in the day was a big part of its charm today.. the further you go back, the more charming the music is (to me), because of the limitations. It's also educational, and for DSP/IDM enthusiasts especially, provides the most clear-cut case study on the development of computerized music...
Nostalgia obviously figures back into this again of course, but I think electronic music today has been very recently been heavily influenced by ancient video game technology and the music thereof, mainly because this has been the most accessible forum for hearing the odd ancient sounds of its time.
Someone on ILM in a past thread mentioned "Well, if those guys could have made the music back then sound like Styx, they would have, but they couldn't... hence..". Sadly, now that the technology is there to pretty much play fully rendered analog rock music, there's going to be less charm and less reason to be excited about the music of video games today.
NOTWITHSTANDING...
...the fact that the catchiness of video game background music is a key element to a video game's success. This is the understated reason I think recent cutesy Japanese video games have captured the hearts of those who would be bored by all the big sounding sports or racing games.
Just clusterfuck of thoughts here... but I'm curious to hear all y'all thoughts.
― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 10 October 2002 17:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Thursday, 10 October 2002 17:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― Vinnie (vprabhu), Thursday, 10 October 2002 19:19 (twenty-two years ago)
― Vinnie (vprabhu), Thursday, 10 October 2002 19:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― |OBEY|EYE|BO| (deangulberry), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― original bgm, Tuesday, 20 April 2004 15:54 (twenty-one years ago)
thanks for those, I've been looking up Tim Follin videos and found this really good (and long) one which showcases a bunch of it. it also explains how he did it and why he was so ahead of everyone else.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC1dTzyb5Gs
the Pictionary one made me laugh out loud, it's so inappropriately intense.
I'm in awe of how good all this stuff is. very much on the Tim Smith/Tatsuya Yoshida/Gentle Giant level but with an added element of rave/techno music. the joke of course is that virtually every game he wound up doing sucked!
― frogbs, Wednesday, 24 August 2022 19:51 (three years ago)
also he was quite young when he made most of this - he was barely 20 when he did all that wild NES music!
― frogbs, Wednesday, 24 August 2022 19:53 (three years ago)
Manabu Namiki - Sally (select) from 'Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu - Black Label' (2010)
Manabu Namiki - Vertex (Stage 1), same
― meisenfek, Saturday, 17 December 2022 10:27 (two years ago)
i can't believe this is just a throwaway joke song for a fake bar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKmt3oA7Vfg
love the MBV harmonies on the chorus
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Thursday, 12 January 2023 15:08 (two years ago)
lol wtf, that is legit
― frogbs, Thursday, 12 January 2023 15:12 (two years ago)
currently I've been jamming the Silver Surfer title screen music a lot, like can you imagine hearing this come out of your NES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNpSPt30uSA
― frogbs, Thursday, 12 January 2023 15:13 (two years ago)
that's wild, definitely have never heard the NES sound like that. doesn't surprise me that he came from the C64 scene, very remniscient of SID-tracker tunes
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Thursday, 12 January 2023 15:29 (two years ago)
This is my favourite 'Final Fantasy' related track, totally immense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al1MOxgQGf4
― MaresNest, Thursday, 12 January 2023 15:35 (two years ago)
hell yeah, there's a whole genre of lush Japanese pop music that sounds like that and I'm always looking for it
― frogbs, Thursday, 12 January 2023 16:16 (two years ago)
Me too, the apex is this and the 'Ghost In The Shell SAC' theme.
― MaresNest, Thursday, 12 January 2023 16:37 (two years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kuE-yEs5VM
― feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Thursday, 12 January 2023 18:42 (two years ago)
WELP i just dug in a little bit and it turns out both the songs we posted were composed by Mitsuto Suzuki, that guy rules i guess
also looks like he did a shoegaze album with the vocalist from the kamekame track: https://www.discogs.com/release/15719043-Mojera-Overkill
― diamonddave85 (diamonddave85), Thursday, 12 January 2023 21:42 (two years ago)
That Plok track Frogbs posted is so wonderful.
Can't recall what thread this album was mentioned on but this guy is worth bringing up againhttps://shnabubula.bandcamp.com/album/cosmic-diaspora
He has a youtube channel where he does cover versions of videogame tunes
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 28 January 2023 21:30 (two years ago)
this is gorgeoushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MygaMv5fVRY
― c u (crüt), Friday, 11 August 2023 17:18 (two years ago)
reminds me of this fav of minehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKwI4myq2dk
― ciderpress, Friday, 11 August 2023 17:45 (two years ago)
Very good
https://x.com/coney/status/1709597886470562029?s=46&t=ybWek2m57bcE72i3ldMsfA
― (the poster formerly known as Twitter) (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 9 October 2023 14:28 (one year ago)
interestingly he also did the music for the snes version of this track... sounds like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u55wZLBQPS4
ok beasley was going a little wild with the voice samples on this one. maybe he just didn't give a shit about the genesis version of the soundtrack, or maybe the emulation on the genesis version is off (that happens sometimes). anyway yeah it's not great but i've heard worse honestly lol
― Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 9 October 2023 17:14 (one year ago)
the Genesis uses FM synthesis which can make for some really harsh sounds. I think the SNES sound chip might be entirely sample-based?
― c u (crüt), Monday, 9 October 2023 17:47 (one year ago)
yes it is, and a lot of the instrument samples in SNES games sacrificed their high-end when downsampled, which is why it comes across as muffled but less harsh than Genesis games. Kinda cool that some composers were able to figure out how to make the most of the two different consoles' limitations
― Vinnie, Monday, 9 October 2023 18:03 (one year ago)
the genesis did have one PCM channel, which you can hear they used the voice samples for. idk why they sound so much worse than the SNES version though. i'm guessing a lower samplerate
― butch wig (diamonddave85), Monday, 9 October 2023 20:18 (one year ago)
Also the Game Boy Robocop title theme (as immortalized in "Dilbert 3") is surpirsingly well done for such a tossoff game― frogbs, Thursday, January 23, 2014 11:21 AM (nine years ago) bookmarkflaglink
― frogbs, Thursday, January 23, 2014 11:21 AM (nine years ago) bookmarkflaglink
Such a beautiful piece of music. "Dilbert 3" was my first encounter with it lol. It works perfectly there, but I wish I had heard in in its original context as a kid; seems like hearing it now would unlock some powerful nostalgia.
Also I'm willing to bet that the Game Boy Robocop theme is the primary musical inspiration for Oneohtrix Point Never's "No Nightmares" though I haven't seen confirmation of this.
― J. Sam, Monday, 9 October 2023 20:30 (one year ago)
in the uk that music is famous for its inexplicable use in an ariston ad in the early '90s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUVs7vXNZiw
and yeah the tech specs allowed for way better sample based playback on the snes than on the genesis/megadrive
basically my take is that the two systems had very different capabilities... you look at something like streets of rage 2, and that would've been a lot tougher to do on the snes. on the other hand, a lot of the RPG music, like final fantasy vi, that wouldn't have worked so well on the genesis/megadrive.
― Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 9 October 2023 21:30 (one year ago)
There can be no worse music thatn Tazmania on the Game Gear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQe4qcrwMKo
― ...eh you get the gist of it (dog latin), Tuesday, 10 October 2023 15:46 (one year ago)
good call - it has a lot of the same chords doesn't it? and if anyone was gonna draw inspiration from an obscure Game Boy game...
― frogbs, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 15:07 (one year ago)
This deep cut FromSoftware game called Evergrace has one of the wildest future-music soundtracks I've heard.
I've always wondered if Oneohtrix was familiar since it has some surprising overlaps with some of his more esoteric sounds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm17vgmh854
And just last night I discovered he featured a track from it on a BBC 6 playlist! Cool.
https://rateyourmusic.com/release/djmix/oneohtrix-point-never/freak-zone-playlist.p/
― Travisssss, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 18:43 (one year ago)
I should mentioned the Evergrace composer is Kota Hoshino.
He also did the sequel to Evergrace, Forever Kingdom. This is from 2001 and it sounds like an Animal Collective song.
This guy was on another level.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjEhb0DLv3s
― Travisssss, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 18:51 (one year ago)
damn, never heard of that before, like if jp massiera wrote PS2 video game soundtracks
today i'm nerding out on the adlib gold, a soundcard that was screwed by creative, maker of the soundblaster (creative and adlib got their fm synth chips from the same source, and that source had mysterious delays in making the new chips for the adlib gold)... so the company was bankrupt by the time it came out. basically the only adlib gold soundtrack anyone knows is stephane picq's "dune" soundtrack (not dune ii i don't think). anyway apparently in the korean demoscene people are writing songs for it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBXhcTEKIuI
also somebody transferred stephane picq's soundtrack to "kgb" in 24/96 fidelity using an OPL3 card (the OPL3 is the FM synthesis chip on the Adlib Gold - the OPL2 is on most of the FM soundcards of the era), worth checking out for you hi-fi heads out there:
https://archive.org/details/picq96khzmasterskgbopl3
i like the kgb soundtrack better than the dune soundtrack myself so this is cool to have
― Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 13 October 2023 16:26 (one year ago)
just clicking around on that link reveals a lot of great stuff, thanks for posting that. absolutely love this sound.
I know Stephane Picq from Megarace - perhaps the game itself was not great, but I loved the cutscenes, and the music was incredible
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7JgalAgkjE
I was probably like...9 years old when I first heard this. had no clue about techno or electronica or anything else but this blew my tiny little head off
― frogbs, Friday, 13 October 2023 16:37 (one year ago)
so here's an album of the works of russian composer nikolai kapustin arranged for chiptune
https://sexytoadsandfrogsfriendcircle.bandcamp.com/album/staffcirc-vol-4-switched-on-kapustin
turns out kapustin has a certain notoriety for sounding like kirby music
― Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 13 October 2023 18:43 (one year ago)
ok wait _this_ is the worst video game music ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uifYj8Efaw
― Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 16 October 2023 00:34 (one year ago)
i'm obsessed with another falcom track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ok9bzDzaS0
i think power metal truly found a home in video game soundtracks
― butch wig (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 25 October 2023 14:47 (one year ago)
https://www.nts.live/shows/otaku/episodes/otaku-winter-soundtrack-27th-january-2024“Chilling, frigid and wintery scores from the obligatory snow level - featuring music from Final Fantasy, Silent Hill, Stardew Valley, Skyrim…”
― brimstead, Monday, 29 January 2024 23:13 (one year ago)
played the original arcade version of marble madness for the first time yesterday and was v struck by the music even tho i only got thru the first 2 levels lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2t5fIUyJs0
unsurprised it has already been mentioned multiple times upthread
― dyl, Sunday, 21 July 2024 20:41 (one year ago)
original 8-bit soundtracks on streaming?
i found the complete ninja gaiden on spotify:https://open.spotify.com/album/6sokQkWFPf5MWUB82HIRCp?si=IqTtiK82R8atIEkm3Zwr1g
i find it funny how chiptune became a thing, but most of the actual music that inspired it is still only available when running the games. not even the original mario brothers scores are on streaming. shame because the mario 3 end credits song is probably one of my favorite songs oat.
onto something else----contempo "remixes" of old video game themes? bland coffee shop fodder mostly imo, but some of them do good imitations of legitimately good hold music. check out tune in with chewie riffing on super metroid:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx3kVMB1fJAtune in with chewie - "lower brinstar" (2021)
and it's wild to think how a six note figure from the original game ultimately folk music'd itself into this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf-jM3szYuIcollosia - "title theme (from the legend of zelda ocarina of time) [lo-fi version]"
― interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Sunday, 11 August 2024 22:00 (one year ago)
sorry, that collosia is from 2020.
― interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Sunday, 11 August 2024 22:08 (one year ago)
I like some of the Consouls' jazzy covers
This is great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwiuDu4NqsQ
― Sade of the Del Amitri (dog latin), Tuesday, 13 August 2024 07:55 (one year ago)
found this "extended remix" of last wave from outrun+i can't stop singing fishmans' "nightcruising" over it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=al542KY-w1Asega sound team - "last wave (1993) (outrunners)" composer: hiroshi kawaguchi
― interstellar anthropologist+music philosopher, (Austin), Saturday, 24 August 2024 20:19 (one year ago)
Not easy to recommend music coming from the old ZX spectrum, but I remember listening to this title screen quite a lot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs-pquDR7Ws
― Ste, Saturday, 24 August 2024 21:33 (one year ago)
surely this is posted upthread but what a jam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne-09Bs_bRo
The Great Giana Sisters / C64 Intro
― corrs unplugged, Thursday, 29 August 2024 07:42 (one year ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S--Wi4v8IfA
― c u (crüt), Sunday, 1 December 2024 05:49 (ten months ago)
adjacent:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIbedGvGbQQ
obsidian blue - "kirby's flight" (2008)
basically a coffee shop beat of the classic between stage jam from kirby. am a big fan.
― lil lurk (Austin), Sunday, 8 December 2024 04:57 (nine months ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb8WbGIT57E
― c u (crüt), Saturday, 4 January 2025 06:46 (nine months ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XruY72JamWc
― BringTheAuBonPain, Sunday, 5 January 2025 01:08 (nine months ago)
That Jazz Jackrsbbit music is incredible
― Sade of the Del Amitri (dog latin), Sunday, 5 January 2025 03:10 (nine months ago)
Some of this Yuke 2kki soundtrack is like top tier ambienthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whhEMe-xbmY
― brimstead, Sunday, 5 January 2025 04:49 (nine months ago)
*Yume 2kki
― brimstead, Sunday, 5 January 2025 04:50 (nine months ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoxE1URe8Qs
― brimstead, Sunday, 5 January 2025 04:51 (nine months ago)
Here's a pair of recent discovery standouts:
Kota Hoshino the savant:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjEhb0DLv3s
Genesis FM synth jam:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz7qouHTyRo
― mom, Tuesday, 7 January 2025 07:51 (nine months ago)
That Jazz Jackrsbbit music is incredible― Sade of the Del Amitri (dog latin)
― Sade of the Del Amitri (dog latin)
thought u might like it!
― c u (crüt), Tuesday, 7 January 2025 13:20 (nine months ago)
I did, very much
― the wedding preset (dog latin), Wednesday, 8 January 2025 00:12 (eight months ago)