Your Possible POLLS: Pink Floyd's 'The Final Cut'

no

er, no what?

vote no

although I have spent alot more time with this album than it deserves. Probably the most well-recorded bad album I can think of

Going with the Gilmour-crooned "Not Now John," which hasn't aged at all well.

Remind me to come round and get snarky the next time you guys run a poll on an album I don't like

probably "Gunner's Dream" or "Southampton Docks" but I haven't heard this in forever.

I wasn't being snarky. You'll KNOW when that happens. But it's true ... "Not Now John" hasn't aged well.

I probably haven't listened to this since 1988 Not sure I want to revisit it, but I remember "The Final Cut" being my fave.

Thought it was a bit disingenuous of Gilmour to be all "It's just a Roger solo album!" and then turn around and do Monetary Lapse of Reason without even Rick or Nick.

this album rules

everybody in history is full of shit about this record

lol Brad

I wasn't referring to you Alex

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Hold on ... Nick played on Momentary Lapse.., did he not?

from STE's review:

This is more like a novel than a record, requiring total concentration since shifts in dynamics, orchestration, and instrumentation are used as effect.

If I WANNA READ A NOVEL I'LL READ A NOVEL

yes he did, so did Wright in fact but he was on a wage

Ah, I stand corrected -- Carmine Appice played on it instead of Nick.. Go know.

"not now john" is literally the worst song on this record

probably voting for "two suns in the sunset" gotta love that 9/8

I've heard differing accounts. But the accounts that stress his involvement limit his participation to hitting the toms a few times on one song. Keltner, Appice, and drum machines played on the rest of it.

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And yeah, I guess Wright did some stuff too:

Gilmour was contacted by Wright's new wife, Franka, who asked if Wright could contribute to the new album. Gilmour considered the request; the keyboardist had left the band in 1979, and there were certain legal obstacles to his re-admittance, but after a meeting in Hampstead he was brought back in.[29] Gilmour later admitted in an interview with author Karl Dallas that Wright's presence "would make us stronger legally and musically". He was therefore employed as a paid musician, on a weekly wage of $11,000,[30] but his contributions were minimal. Most of the new keyboard parts had already been recorded, and so from February 1987 he played some background reinforcement on a Hammond organ, and a Fender Rhodes piano, along with several vocal harmonies. The keyboardist also performed a solo in "On the Turning Away", which was discarded, according to Wright "not because they didn't like it ... they just thought it didn't fit."[23] Gilmour later said: "Both Nick and Rick were catatonic in terms of their playing ability at the beginning. Neither of them played on this at all really. In my view, they'd been destroyed by Roger", a comment which clearly angered Mason, who reflected: "I'd deny that I was catatonic. I'd expect that from the opposition, it's less attractive from one's allies. At some point, he made some sort of apology." Mason did, however, concede that Gilmour was nervous about how the album would be perceived.[30]

always felt like this must have been one of the weirdest bands to be a member of

do I have to listen to this? I really don't want to

i've avoided it so far

it's just the wall pt. 2 but it's better than the wall imo

the wall pt. 2: war and stuff

reissue improves the album massively by stuffing "when the tigers broke free" in the tracklisting

It's shorter than the Wall, so in that it's an improvement, but there's no way the best tracks on this (Gunner's Dream, Two Suns in the Sunset) stand up to the best tracks on the Wall.
On the other hand I doubt I could really give either of these records a listen all the way through anytime soon.

I really like the Wall though

Voted for 'Not Now John'. I very rarely find myself wanting to listen to The Final Cunt, really... in fact, can't really remember the last time I listened to it full!

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I love Not Now John, and am voting for it, but will not defend it

Sums up this record perfectly

reissue improves the album massively by stuffing "when the tigers broke free" in the tracklisting

― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, August 27, 2013

otm and "tigers" would take this poll if included imo

"here's a poll of Pink Floyd's darkest, grimmest worst album."

god this isn't even remotely as bad as the division bell

i've never understood the ire toward this record at all. if you like the wall.... what's the problem here exactly?

i don't like The Wall maybe thats the problem.

also, i know lots of people who LOVE The Wall but hate The Final Cut

yeah i don't get that at all

"and now, adding colour, a group of anonymous Latin American meat packing glitterati".

also, Division Bell is not a PF album per se..

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Saying "You like The Wall so you should like The Final Cut!" is a bit like saying "Hey, you like Blur so you should like the Kaiser Chiefs!". This record always came across to me as a bit of a dour, po-faced postscript to The Wall with lesser songs (like a low calorie Wall, almost), featuring none of the aspects of the Floyd sound that I enjoy the most on their '70s records.

...and The Wall is dour enough in itself, which says something.

well okay that helps a little but i honestly find myself preferring a lot of these songs; i also enjoy the ridiculous bombast

Don't the credits read "The final cut: By Roger Waters, played by Pink Floyd"? It pretty much speaks for itself. I'd rather listen to Amused To Death if I'm going down that road.

I just never liked this record at all and I've listened to a lot of Pink Floyd.

Did you hear something......BOOM!?!?! is the best moment on this record.

i love this album, going to listen and decide.

Just listened to parts of it, and it holds up pretty well, certainly better than the Floyd-branded stuff that came out after it. Already voted for "The Final Cut," but with I'd voted for "Your Possible Pasts."

ok i might not love this album but tend to agree with what Brad is saying. it has a bad reputation that is probably unwarranted.

I like this album a lot. Voted for "The Final Cut," with a great vocal in that new voice Roger found around this time. "The Hero's Return" and "The Gunner's Dream" were runners-up.

"Not Now John" doesn't really work for me because the mix is so awkward--the guitars are buried and powerless when they should be "Nile Song" loud (well, at least "In the Flesh?" loud); you're mostly just hearing bass and drums thumping along.

Wall fans aren't necessarily going to find what they're looking for on The Final Cut unless their favorite songs are "Goodbye Blue Sky," "Nobody Home" and "Outside the Wall." There's not a whole lotta rock on Final Cut.

fuck all that

fuck all that

This was the first Floyd album I ever heard and I've loved it ever since. So hellishly miserable and sombre. Waters' voice has this crazed bark to it which gives it this mad tension throughout. Voting "Two Suns in the Sunset".

Did you hear something......BOOM!?!?! is the best moment on this record.

And yeah, I guess Wright did some stuff too:

Wright isn't on this at all. The quote above is referring to his (lack of) involvement on A Momentary Lapse of Reason.

Most of the new keyboard parts had already been recorded, and so from February 1987 he played some background reinforcement on a Hammond organ, and a Fender Rhodes piano, along with several vocal harmonies.

Not a lot, but not nothing.

it's just the wall pt. 2 but it's better than the wall imo

It's like The Wall minus the tolerable bits.

Would be The Wall pt. 2, and just as good or better, if they added some songs that were more conventional and Gilmourish.

Its a good album just lacks those crowdpleasers.

Would be The Wall pt. 2, and just as good or better, if they added some songs that were more conventional and Gilmourish.

I think Waters would take issue with your use of the word "they"

One of the biggest disconnects in history was reading the 5-star "the best Pink Floyd album ever" review in Rolling Stone that preceded the album's release - and then hearing the actual album.

Kurt Loder (in that review) called it "art rock's crowning masterpiece."

And I like the record, but jeez.

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I used to love The Final Cut years ago, but today more it sounds like a weird album by Meat Loaf who hates Thatcher and has forgotten how to sing

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