TS: Neil Young Vs. The Fall

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i think Young will win every ilx' TS except maybe The Fall.
let's find out..

Poll Results

Option	Votes
young	60
fall	44

― nostormo, Friday, 30 August 2013 15:46 (twelve years ago)

duh

― waterface, Friday, 30 August 2013 15:48 (twelve years ago)

Neil Young Vs Rolling Stones

― nostormo, Friday, 30 August 2013 15:48 (twelve years ago)

Neil.

sorry mark

― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 30 August 2013 15:48 (twelve years ago)

.. i mean, he won't lose to Steely Dan right?

― nostormo, Friday, 30 August 2013 15:50 (twelve years ago)

He won't lose to anyone

― waterface, Friday, 30 August 2013 15:51 (twelve years ago)

lock thread

― nostormo, Friday, 30 August 2013 15:51 (twelve years ago)

pink floyd?! nah..

― nostormo, Friday, 30 August 2013 15:52 (twelve years ago)

bruce berry was a carrier bag man, he used to hide carrier bags in his van-ah!

― i'll be your mraz (NickB), Friday, 30 August 2013 16:03 (twelve years ago)

Holy shit, I think I accidentally voted for the Fall! So when the results come in, please count one more toward Neil Young and one less for the Fall.

― how's life, Friday, 30 August 2013 16:06 (twelve years ago)

The fall. I like Neil a lot but the fall are just so inexhaustibly chewy.

Feel like this poll is the end of me and la lechera's friendship :(

― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Friday, 30 August 2013 16:41 (twelve years ago)

I'm def. never speaking 2 U again

― waterface, Friday, 30 August 2013 16:54 (twelve years ago)

anyone here own all the studio albums by both acts? 35 and 30 albums respectively i think

― i'll be your mraz (NickB), Friday, 30 August 2013 16:58 (twelve years ago)

haha, the lumbering dirgelike end!
neil obvs

― no fomo (La Lechera), Friday, 30 August 2013 17:00 (twelve years ago)

They should tour together. I'd love to see Mark E. berate a hard core bandana wearing Neil crowd. Voted Neil only because there's not a "tie" choice.

― I'll take the jangle-jangle over the throb-throb (brg30), Friday, 30 August 2013 20:09 (twelve years ago)

He tried v hard
To do his best
But COULD not
Mister B Berry of Prestwich

― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Friday, 30 August 2013 20:11 (twelve years ago)

stop with these stupid polls

― money, chicken and other DNA (sleeve), Friday, 30 August 2013 20:40 (twelve years ago)

but im bored

― nostormo, Friday, 30 August 2013 20:42 (twelve years ago)

the fall

tbh i'd vote against neil young in almost any poll

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 30 August 2013 21:00 (twelve years ago)

a limp bizkit vs. neil young poll?

― nostormo, Friday, 30 August 2013 21:03 (twelve years ago)

thefallthefallthefall

― you may not like it now but you will (Zora), Friday, 30 August 2013 23:09 (twelve years ago)

phoenix

― sleepingbag, Friday, 30 August 2013 23:11 (twelve years ago)

tbh i'd vote against ~~neil young~~ The Fall in almost any poll

― EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 30 August 2013 23:12 (twelve years ago)

http://www.angelamaiers.com/images/2011/11/Screen-shot-2011-11-17-at-3.27.02-PM.png

― RAWK of Agger's (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 August 2013 23:52 (twelve years ago)

right, i swear, solemn off-board oath to be backed up by cunt mods, i'm done. done.

― RAWK of Agger's (Noodle Vague), Friday, 30 August 2013 23:52 (twelve years ago)

the fall are great but this board overrates em tbh, def neil

― thot police (fadanuf4erybody), Saturday, 31 August 2013 01:04 (twelve years ago)

Done w what, Noodle?

― the hubert harumphreys of social media (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 31 August 2013 01:11 (twelve years ago)

done searchin' for a heart of gold

― Treeship, Saturday, 31 August 2013 01:13 (twelve years ago)

Isn't this another 'vote on principle' things?

― Fake House Music = Satan (I M Losted), Saturday, 31 August 2013 17:12 (twelve years ago)

Neil

― da croupier, Saturday, 31 August 2013 17:19 (twelve years ago)

Do you think
- Mark E Smith likes Neil?
- Neil would like The Fall if he heard them?

― glumdalclitch, Saturday, 31 August 2013 17:30 (twelve years ago)

mark e smith hates neil young iirc

― i'll be your mraz (NickB), Saturday, 31 August 2013 17:42 (twelve years ago)

here you go:
http://www.vice.com/soft-focus/mark-e-smith

"the reason for creating the fall in the first place was to get away from fuckers like pink floyd and the eagles and neil young"

― i'll be your mraz (NickB), Saturday, 31 August 2013 17:58 (twelve years ago)

kinda surprised he hates PF tbh, seems like he'd be a post-syd pre-darkside kinda guy

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 31 August 2013 18:50 (twelve years ago)

MES more into Sabbath iirc

― the hubert harumphreys of social media (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 31 August 2013 18:51 (twelve years ago)

MES autobio "renegade" put me off the guy tbh. the bitterness was wearying and he has quite a conservative streak (yeah, to piss off middle-class liberals but a conservative streak nevertheless). i know hes not into self-confession but why write a book in the first place. i love his music esp. the early stuff but he seems to be dangerously becoming a caricature like john lydon. neil young seems to be more open-hearted although id buy a new fall album before a new neil young one tbh.

― Old Boy In Network (Michael B), Saturday, 31 August 2013 20:00 (twelve years ago)

not sure that there's any real useful point of comparison here besides "both well-liked on this board," which makes for a pretty meaningless popularity contest imo, no offense but -- is there a meaningful contrast to be drawn out?

― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 31 August 2013 20:02 (twelve years ago)

Neil Young always makes me think of Pink Floyd. Mark Smith has it exactly right.

― clemenza, Saturday, 31 August 2013 20:12 (twelve years ago)

Useful point of comparison: who is the better interpreter of rockabilly classics?

― i'll be your mraz (NickB), Saturday, 31 August 2013 20:18 (twelve years ago)

Wonderin v Container Drivers

― Old Boy In Network (Michael B), Saturday, 31 August 2013 20:58 (twelve years ago)

didn't young go all reaganite for a while in the '80s? the main thing i remember about MES's conservative/nationalistic streak was his support for the falklands war.

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 31 August 2013 21:30 (twelve years ago)

My POV:

anything but Neil Young
The Fall over most things

― Mark G, Saturday, 31 August 2013 21:32 (twelve years ago)

Love Neil to death, but The Mighty Fall.

― Hadrian VIII, Saturday, 31 August 2013 21:38 (twelve years ago)

Ha MES in that interview^ on Irish bombing incompetence: "It could have been another 7-11 or what do you call it....9/11."

― Hadrian VIII, Saturday, 31 August 2013 21:39 (twelve years ago)

Young and Smith both water signs

― the hubert harumphreys of social media (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 31 August 2013 22:00 (twelve years ago)

The Fall.

― Dog Man Star took a suck on a pill... (Turrican), Saturday, 31 August 2013 22:15 (twelve years ago)

I might pick the Fall if we were doing this in the mid-80s

― da croupier, Saturday, 31 August 2013 22:53 (twelve years ago)

not that I knew either in the mid-80s

― da croupier, Saturday, 31 August 2013 22:53 (twelve years ago)

Neil will win this, but the difference between votes numbers will be smaller than:

Neil Young 69
Rolling Stones 40

― nostormo, Saturday, 31 August 2013 22:56 (twelve years ago)

i think

― nostormo, Saturday, 31 August 2013 22:56 (twelve years ago)

didn't young go all reaganite for a while in the '80s?

Actually he just made an offhand remark one time to a reporter who was goading "hippie Neil" to say something critical of Reagan, and the next thing you know he's branded a Reagan supporter. His anti-Reagan/Bush anthem Rockin' In The Free World was released in the 80s after all, I think that's probably a better indicator of where he stood.

― agnosy, Saturday, 31 August 2013 23:06 (twelve years ago)

Re: point of comparison, both are committed to a certain kind of musical primitivism. Lyrically they're worlds apart tho

― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 2 September 2013 01:51 (twelve years ago)

not to the same "certain kind" I don't think. neil is an outstanding guitarist by anybody's measure and can play a solo set. the mark e smith solo set would draw a crowd, but few would leave talking about how well he played.

― combination hair (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 2 September 2013 02:14 (twelve years ago)

I feel like the Winnipeg vs Manchester discrepancy wd obscure any real affinities

― the hubert harumphreys of social media (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 2 September 2013 05:14 (twelve years ago)

they both did great stuff but people who are hardcore fans of either are the worst

― wk, Monday, 2 September 2013 07:30 (twelve years ago)

basically both are overrated by people who have a really '90s sensibility

― wk, Monday, 2 September 2013 07:32 (twelve years ago)

The Fall are going to walk this. For one thing, Young's appeal in countries other than the US is, um, selective.

― everything, Monday, 2 September 2013 08:39 (twelve years ago)

but most ilxors are from north america i think

― nostormo, Monday, 2 September 2013 09:05 (twelve years ago)

The Fall are beyond music. They exist in the realm of gods and therefore a poll like this is irrelavant to the chances of them becoming 'croupiers' of this new century. With all good faith if Young gets this it will because he is old - not a fresh faced josher or wise acreage of space - as created by the seemingly plain Mark E Smith. He is the frond from which the fern is thrown - the wheat upon many barren fields.

― Hinklepicker, Monday, 2 September 2013 10:05 (twelve years ago)

Voted Neil Young

― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Monday, 2 September 2013 11:23 (twelve years ago)

Voted Neil Young

― Ward Fowler, Monday, 2 September 2013 11:28 (twelve years ago)

Young's appeal in countries other than the US is, um, selective.

Not sure about this tbh, not like he's Jimmy Buffett or sumthin'

― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Monday, 2 September 2013 11:56 (twelve years ago)

Appropriately enough MES has previously said that Neil Young was one of his biggest childhood heroes but it's this Neil Young:

http://cards.littleoak.com.au/196869_abc_yellowbacks/065_neil_young.jpg

― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Monday, 2 September 2013 12:03 (twelve years ago)

http://cards.littleoak.com.au/196869_abc_yellowbacks/065_neil_young.jpg + http://www.liverweb.org.uk/stickers/FKS197879sticker162.jpg

― i'll be your mraz (NickB), Monday, 2 September 2013 12:10 (twelve years ago)

I like Neil a lot, but honestly would vote for almost anyone versus The Fall.

― EZ Snappin, Monday, 2 September 2013 16:54 (twelve years ago)

I agree they aren't the same kind of primitive. Their mutual commitment to the limits of their respective supporting units - even championing them as strengths - is the only common ground I can think of tho.

― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 2 September 2013 16:55 (twelve years ago)

Lol at MES being committed to anything about his backing band. He'd prolley agree with the term 'supporting units' tho

― the hubert harumphreys of social media (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 2 September 2013 20:19 (twelve years ago)

basically both are overrated by people who have a really '90s sensibility

Don't forget us '70s-sensibility people--we overrate Neil too.

― clemenza, Monday, 2 September 2013 21:16 (twelve years ago)

Yeah wtf does that even mean

― Hadrian VIII, Monday, 2 September 2013 21:33 (twelve years ago)

i think he means thurston moore

― i'll be your mraz (NickB), Monday, 2 September 2013 21:35 (twelve years ago)

Lol

― the hubert harumphreys of social media (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 2 September 2013 21:35 (twelve years ago)

Neil Young 69
Rolling Stones 40

I still find this baffling

― g simmel, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 05:57 (twelve years ago)

what the hell is a "really 90s sensibility"

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:19 (twelve years ago)

http://iwastesomuchtime.com/on/?i=32130

― sleepingbag, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:21 (twelve years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

― System, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 00:01 (twelve years ago)

I'm sure Neil is no angel but this whole evening needs to be addressed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILR5-JK8gvg

― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 02:08 (twelve years ago)

this is really about US (well, canada i guess) vs britishers. one thing i've learned about this board and about life and music and culture in general is that britishers are always wrong. neil obv. fuck the fall imo

― marcos, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 13:21 (twelve years ago)

http://socalmountains.com/e107_files/public/1359790524_2863_FT180705_get-a-brain-morans-freeman.jpg

― iMacaroon dragoons (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 13:24 (twelve years ago)

Yeah, that's right nobody ever bought a Neil Young album in the UK

― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 13:26 (twelve years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls1YVhcLD2c

― iMacaroon dragoons (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 13:28 (twelve years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfdbcG0BTSk

― iMacaroon dragoons (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 13:29 (twelve years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

― System, Thursday, 5 September 2013 00:01 (twelve years ago)

Got this in the mail today, perfect timing:

http://www3.images.coolspotters.com/photos/178296/neil-young-zuma-t-shirt-profile.jpg

(Occurs to me I'd better not wear it at school.)

― clemenza, Thursday, 5 September 2013 00:03 (twelve years ago)

FREE RANGE!

― Mark G, Thursday, 5 September 2013 06:45 (twelve years ago)

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