R&B that Sounds Like Eno

Veronica Moser says on the "black people and punk rock" thread:

PS: there is a sense that current R&B is redolent of 1975, in that coincidentally it sounds like Eno's shit 1973-1978, except with singers who learned how to sing in the black church.

On paper (or in pixels), this sounds really great to me but I don't listen to current R&B much at all. (Does Adele count?). What are good examples of this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qufxd1Dywy8

Adele certainly does not count as contemporary r&b. does she count as British person who capitalized on winehouses death to make music for people who bemoan the fact that African American culture has moved on from the tropes of the 60s? You bet!

To me, a person such as you, sund4r, could spend a 1/2 hour listening to r&b radio, and you would be struck by how much it sounds like another green world. Most likely this is not intended by the people who create these records. Which makes it all the more remarkable.

I saw that this thread was here and immediately thought "fuck, some other nuuuurd had this idea before me!"

i can't believe i am about to say anything in defense of adele -- i certainly would not count her as contemporary r&b but she has barely released any music since amy winehouse's death. i would argue she was cashing in on amy winehouse's appeal more in 2008 than in 2011-now

Ha, OK, I tuned into Detroit's KISS-FM. They're playing Babyface's "Two Occasions" and I can see it right away.

Ha, OK, that song is from the 80s apparently.

lol this thread is like a parody of early ILM

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view5/2840366/brian-eno-wink-o.gif

I'm working through these: http://www.billboard.com/charts/r-b-hip-hop-songs

and I wouldn't say yet that Another Green World jumps out as a really obvious comparison but I do really like the production on a lot of this stuff. The Drake song sounds pretty good iirc.

Look guys, I'll admit this might be a quixotic-ass thing to suggest. But I've been away from ilm for awhile (barring a jojo thread here and there) and I haven't been able to shake this idea. And fuck yeah, drake is super germane to it.

And baby face, who I think is great, predates what I'm talking about.

Ha, OK, I tuned into Detroit's KISS-FM. They're playing Babyface's "Two Occasions" and I can see it right away.

I was probably trying really hard to see it tbh. I was really excited about this idea.

Agreed! It's pretty cool. Tho I would say that 1973-78 Eno cuts a pretty wide swath – guitar textures aside,
Warm Jets and AGW don't sound much alike (even less BaAS). I'm having a hard time imagining what an R&B artist would be gleaning here.

My personal sense is that the elastic sound a lot of Rihanna-esque pop uses today owes a fair amount to Eno. But that's probably a conversation for another thread and not really directly related to his 70s work.

Yeah, I tried listening to some more Drake and pulled out AGW again and really don't see a strong connection tbh. With some of these things, I am sometimes reminded a little of Warp artists like Boards of Canada or Clark but I figure that's more a case of the ambient/IDM artists being influenced by mainstream hip-hop/pop/R&B in the first place.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8x_PSt7Tgw