It's that time of year when even your dad has an opinion on Frightened Rabbit.
Shortlist announced today, who should be on it?
― i'll be your mraz (NickB), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 09:12 (twelve years ago)
hitler
― not some dude poking a Line 6 pedal with his dick (sarahell), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 09:13 (twelve years ago)
King Krule?
― mmmm, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 09:14 (twelve years ago)
Wire
― Mark G, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 09:17 (twelve years ago)
can't imagine hitler turning up to the ceremony tbh, he was never one to suffer foals gladly
― i'll be your mraz (NickB), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 09:31 (twelve years ago)
damn son
― Neil S, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 09:35 (twelve years ago)
was this whole thread just an excuse to crack that joke? Either way I take off my hat you you!
Don't do that on my account, it's pretty cold out this morning.
― i'll be your mraz (NickB), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 09:45 (twelve years ago)
Don't do that on my trousers, either.
― Mark G, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 11:42 (twelve years ago)
So, about to be announced then?
― Mark G, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 16:22 (twelve years ago)
Arctic Monkeys – AMDavid Bowie – The Next DayDisclosure – SettleFoals – Holy FireJake Bugg – Jake BuggJames Blake – OvergrownJon Hopkins – ImmunityLaura Marling – Once I Was an EagleLaura Mvula – Sing to the MoonRudimental – HomeSavages – Silence YourselfVillagers – Awayland
― i'll be your mraz (NickB), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 16:37 (twelve years ago)
No tokenism? "It's an outrage!!"
― Jeff W, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 16:39 (twelve years ago)
These New Puritans got stiffed again
― i'll be your mraz (NickB), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 16:44 (twelve years ago)
even worse than usual (did i say this last year?)
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 16:49 (twelve years ago)
probably. but it's actually significantly better than usual.
― i lost my shoes on acid (jed_), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 16:52 (twelve years ago)
Arctic Monkeys – everything they've ever done has been worthlessDavid Bowie – i accidentally heard the single on the radio and it was like dreadful c-list britpopDisclosure – this is aight but haven't even gone back to it much, three starsFoals – this terrible band continues to exist? fuck offJake Bugg – this dude is the worstJames Blake – fuck off fuck off fuck off, absolutely dire artistJon Hopkins – i have not heard of himLaura Marling – as a genuine fan of laura marling i have to say this album was a massive snoozey disappointmentLaura Mvula – so tastefully boringRudimental – my pick, if i had to pick one; its highs are some of the best tracks of 2013 (esp "baby"). but honestly it's pretty patchySavages – i found this unlistenable not because of the music but because of the total lack of characterVillagers – never heard of this
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 16:52 (twelve years ago)
haha
― i lost my shoes on acid (jed_), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 16:56 (twelve years ago)
Feels like quite a boring list, partly cos it's lots of the same names cropping up again and they're artists whose latest records aren't really any better than previous efforts.
― i'll be your mraz (NickB), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 16:59 (twelve years ago)
Jon Hopkins album is nice but also seems it could be a smoothly Mercury-ish alternative to, say, the (hardly extremely challenging) James Holden album.
I hadn't heard of Villagers and assumed they were the token folk pick, but a quick google suggests they're more of an Irish Mumfords?
― Waluigi Nono (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 16:59 (twelve years ago)
the Jon Hopkins is by far the best for me. lots of utter boredom in there.
― Jamie_ATP, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 16:59 (twelve years ago)
what kind of music is jon hopkins/would i like it
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 17:01 (twelve years ago)
always stymied when i try to think of "albums that should have been nominated" by having to look up a) release dates b) where the artist comes from and then c) not caring enough, but chucking some names into the pot
vatican shadow - ghosts of chechnyamaya jane coles - comfortikonika - aerotropolisroyal-t - rinse presents royal-tandy stott - luxury problemsgwyneth herbert - the sea cabinetemika - dvacharli xcx - true romanceghostpoet - some say i so i say light
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 17:05 (twelve years ago)
Jon Hopkins is quite pretty, kind of along the same lines as Four Tet or something but a little more compelling imo. I like that one and and the Savages record the best of these. Enjoyed the Rudimental and Disclosure albums but not really that fussed about them and found most of the rest of them either hard going or actively horrible.
― i'll be your mraz (NickB), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 17:06 (twelve years ago)
vatican shadow - ghosts of chechnya
^ this guy's american btw
― i'll be your mraz (NickB), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 17:07 (twelve years ago)
Savages street team over here
― WHAT DOES SAMANTHA FOX SAY (DJP), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 17:08 (twelve years ago)
i was SURE vatican shadow was from like the north of england or something. oh well getting overly fussed about nationality is reason #948729320 why the mercury prize is shit
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 17:09 (twelve years ago)
also while the good Rudimental songs are indeed very good, there's no way the entire album is better than the Disclosure album
― WHAT DOES SAMANTHA FOX SAY (DJP), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 17:11 (twelve years ago)
oh i think it is but i prioritise higher highs over something more consistent that never quite stuck and seemed kinda redundant in some ways, if not actually bad
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 17:14 (twelve years ago)
The first half of Jon Hopkins reminds me strongly of mid-00s Border Community releases, maybe some early Areal as well. Certainly Holden's The Sky Was Pink remix is a key template. The second half moves into a more 'ambient' atmospheric register, which is slightly more interesting, but very cleanly produced and still feels quite safe. Overall, I feel like it's a record created by an engineer, a bit uninspired somehow.
― MikoMcha, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 17:15 (twelve years ago)
Arctic Monkeys – everything they've ever done has been worthless
next album title
― Cap'n Save-a-Co. (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 17:21 (twelve years ago)
Once I Was an Eagle is well above the rest here.
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 17:24 (twelve years ago)
everything i'm reading about jon hopkins screaming "safer/more boring version of stuff i already love"
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 17:25 (twelve years ago)
at least when they used to do the token jazz/folk/classical picks you knew those records wd be better than most of the actual contenders
― Cap'n Save-a-Co. (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 17:27 (twelve years ago)
The Barclaycard Mercury Prize exists solely to champion music in the UK, mainly through the ‘Albums of the Year’ competition, which celebrates recorded music of all genres by British or Irish artists. The music on the album is the only thing taken into account.
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― Cap'n Save-a-Co. (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 17:32 (twelve years ago)
"solely"!"all"!"only"!
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 17:35 (twelve years ago)
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zzk2dPGwCls/UKbTLpQjPsI/AAAAAAAABCY/NW2RXioqLrY/s1600/jake+b.JPG
― mike t-diva, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 18:06 (twelve years ago)
Nah this is very unfair on Villagers. They are (or he is) pretty straight in a 6music-on-a-Sunday fashion - so unlikely to excite ilm much - but it's a very good record.
― Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 18:19 (twelve years ago)
Mark Savage BBC News entertainment reporterRight now, the single is the dominant format in the music industry - making the Mercury Prize crucial for those newer, fringe artists who have no hope of making the Top 40.So it's strange that so many of this year's artists are already successful.There are seven former nominees and four number one albums on the list (five if Arctic Monkeys hit the top slot this weekend, as expected). Last year, there was one chart-topper. In 2010, there were none.But the selection is still surprisingly diverse - from Laura Marling's naked folk confessionals to the rave-funk of Rudimental.Resurrected rock colossus David Bowie is the headline-grabber but the Mercury panel traditionally prefer debut albums to grand dames - five of the last seven winners were first-timers.The smart money is on dance duo Disclosure. Music fans would do well to check out all of the nominees.
Right now, the single is the dominant format in the music industry - making the Mercury Prize crucial for those newer, fringe artists who have no hope of making the Top 40.
So it's strange that so many of this year's artists are already successful.
There are seven former nominees and four number one albums on the list (five if Arctic Monkeys hit the top slot this weekend, as expected). Last year, there was one chart-topper. In 2010, there were none.
But the selection is still surprisingly diverse - from Laura Marling's naked folk confessionals to the rave-funk of Rudimental.
Resurrected rock colossus David Bowie is the headline-grabber but the Mercury panel traditionally prefer debut albums to grand dames - five of the last seven winners were first-timers.
The smart money is on dance duo Disclosure. Music fans would do well to check out all of the nominees.
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 18:26 (twelve years ago)
Laura Marling's naked folk confessionals
― emil.y, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 18:30 (twelve years ago)
The shortlist, however, did not reflect the widespread perception that dance music is the dominant force in British music at the moment, reflected by the change in emphasis in bookings at even the rockiest of festivals, such as Reading and Leeds. Only two out-and-out dance acts, Disclosure and Rudimental, featured on the 12-strong shortlist, with the dance-influenced sepulchral electronica of James Blake joining them.Instead, traditional guitar music dominates the list – with albums from Savages, Foals, Jake Bugg, Laura Marling and Villagers on the list, which is completed by Laura Mvula and Jon Hopkins."This year's Barclaycard Mercury prize shortlist celebrates a fascinating year for British and Irish music, marked by a wonderful range of musical voices – urgent, reflective, upbeat and tender, acoustic and electronic, and all with something intriguing to say," said Simon Frith, who has chaired the judging panel since the award was launched in 1992.Just as interesting as what is included, perhaps, is what is omitted. Commercial big-hitters such as Mumford & Sons and Bastille, both of whose albums topped the chart, didn't make the cut. For the first time since 2004, what is traditionally referred to by observers as "the token jazzer" fails to appear, with Hopkins's widely admired electronica album Immunity representing the more experimental end of the musical spectrum. And, as ever, there is no room for one of the most enduringly popular musical genres in Britain, metal."The thing is, within the rock music industry there's a bit of debate about how bothered people are with an award like the Mercuries," said James McMahon, editor of the rock bible Kerrang! "The other year we were pushing the idea of Bring Me the Horizon being nominated as an innovative, exciting British rock band who want to be seen out in the world – but then they didn't enter."If the rock industry doesn't have any belief in its relevance, what can the Mercuries do? But if it were genuinely the 12 best records of the year, it would be blinkered to ignore metal."
Instead, traditional guitar music dominates the list – with albums from Savages, Foals, Jake Bugg, Laura Marling and Villagers on the list, which is completed by Laura Mvula and Jon Hopkins.
"This year's Barclaycard Mercury prize shortlist celebrates a fascinating year for British and Irish music, marked by a wonderful range of musical voices – urgent, reflective, upbeat and tender, acoustic and electronic, and all with something intriguing to say," said Simon Frith, who has chaired the judging panel since the award was launched in 1992.
Just as interesting as what is included, perhaps, is what is omitted. Commercial big-hitters such as Mumford & Sons and Bastille, both of whose albums topped the chart, didn't make the cut. For the first time since 2004, what is traditionally referred to by observers as "the token jazzer" fails to appear, with Hopkins's widely admired electronica album Immunity representing the more experimental end of the musical spectrum. And, as ever, there is no room for one of the most enduringly popular musical genres in Britain, metal.
"The thing is, within the rock music industry there's a bit of debate about how bothered people are with an award like the Mercuries," said James McMahon, editor of the rock bible Kerrang! "The other year we were pushing the idea of Bring Me the Horizon being nominated as an innovative, exciting British rock band who want to be seen out in the world – but then they didn't enter.
"If the rock industry doesn't have any belief in its relevance, what can the Mercuries do? But if it were genuinely the 12 best records of the year, it would be blinkered to ignore metal."
Personally I'm glad that utter shite metalcore like Bring Me The Horizon don't get nominated as there's so much better metal around (like lex I cba checking release dates for examples) but I dont suppose BMTH are any worse than what gets nominated.
Maybe one day some middlebrow metal that appeals to Guardian critics/readers might get nominated?
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 19:10 (twelve years ago)
Music fans would do well to check out
AG, i think worrying about what "deserves" to be on this list is pointless, it's the thing itself that deserves ridicule - other music is out there doing fine
― Cap'n Save-a-Co. (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 19:12 (twelve years ago)
like i'm pretty sure your fave hipster metal bands don't really want to be interviewed on Breakfast Time about their Mercury nomination ;-)
― Cap'n Save-a-Co. (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 19:13 (twelve years ago)
haha very true but I just wanted to line up this -
Imago you love that stuff what do you think could have been nominated? ;)
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 19:13 (twelve years ago)
thought they said they were only judging the music
― Cap'n Save-a-Co. (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 19:15 (twelve years ago)
I honestly would have loved a band like Electric Wizard or Jesu to have been nominated in the past. Even if it was just a Token metal act like the jazz noms were. But you can bet if metal were to get a nomination it would be an incredibly shite band that gets it.
so yeah fuck the mercuries.
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 19:15 (twelve years ago)
matherd111 September 2013 6:03pmRecommend - 2Metal isn't generally included in things like this because it's almost always massively, massively kitsch. (Far more than some of the pop music than the more annoying metal fans look down on, like Beyoncé or Justin Timberlake.) It also usually is either standard issue vague cliché angst or fantasy concept nerd rubbish (geek 'culture' must die!).
11 September 2013 6:03pmRecommend - 2
Metal isn't generally included in things like this because it's almost always massively, massively kitsch. (Far more than some of the pop music than the more annoying metal fans look down on, like Beyoncé or Justin Timberlake.) It also usually is either standard issue vague cliché angst or fantasy concept nerd rubbish (geek 'culture' must die!).
ugh.
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 19:19 (twelve years ago)
I've heard Bowie, Disclosure, Blake, Marling, Mvula, and Savages.
Would vote Marling.
― Geoffrey Schweppes (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 19:20 (twelve years ago)
idiot dismisses straw man's dismissiveness of straw man's dismissive version of thing he hasn't listened to. looks like the internet's still working then.
― Cap'n Save-a-Co. (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 19:21 (twelve years ago)
xp!
There are bits on that Foals album that get kinda loud and RAWKlike but unfortunately it's not quite enough to drown out the braying donkey they've got for a singer
― i'll be your mraz (NickB), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 19:23 (twelve years ago)
well the bands name is MUTation but yeah its up imagos alley
― ۩, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 13:09 (eleven years ago)
I think Nick would puke if he heard this
― little busquets made of tiki-taka (imago), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 13:11 (eleven years ago)
This place makes much more sense when I remember who Imago is.
― I can still taste the Taboo in my mouth when I hear those songs (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 13:12 (eleven years ago)
Wouldn't go that far, Imago. Doubt he would give it a listen however.xp
― ۩, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 13:15 (eleven years ago)
Imago have you heard the Colin Stetson?
― I can still taste the Taboo in my mouth when I hear those songs (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 13:15 (eleven years ago)
Yes, it's great! Possibly even better than New Warfare 2
― little busquets made of tiki-taka (imago), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 13:18 (eleven years ago)
*New History Warfare 2
The Colin Stetson and Holden do very similar things to my ears, in terms of texture and scale and chaos.
― I can still taste the Taboo in my mouth when I hear those songs (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 13:22 (eleven years ago)
The Redeemer is my favourite album of the year by a mile
― Number None, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 13:28 (eleven years ago)
What you choose to seek out is a massive part of this; I simply don't have the time or energy to check out everything I'd like to, even if I have the tools (if I want them)
I know, it's always a bit frustrating to see you put these lists up and for them to be pretty much a load of artists you already liked in the first place, like your listening habits are so much more conservative than your tastes. Hostility/ambivalence to "the tools" (if by which you mean free access to digital music) is all well and good but it's not as if you can't buy things if you like them.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 13:42 (eleven years ago)
I've bought about 50-ish new albums released this year, and maybe another 30 back catalog records, too, which is about average compared to the last five years or so, and there are few of them that I feel I've listened to as much as I'd like (for various reasons to do with work and other hobbies - road cycling and 5-a-side not being conducive to listening to music).
― I can still taste the Taboo in my mouth when I hear those songs (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 13:59 (eleven years ago)
Imago Sun Of White Leg sounds like blur
― ۩, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 14:22 (eleven years ago)
Best track is Innocentes in Morte
― ۩, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 14:31 (eleven years ago)
Sun Of White Leg is a pretty obvious tribute to a band which Damon Albarn also liked. I shan't say any more :)
― little busquets made of tiki-taka (imago), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 20:08 (eleven years ago)
sky news just reporting James Blake won
― ۩, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 22:08 (eleven years ago)
Because he did.
― I can still taste the Taboo in my mouth when I hear those songs (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 22:11 (eleven years ago)
Great to see Hacker Farm getting a mention in that Guardian shortlist.
― Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 22:15 (eleven years ago)
what even did that boring twat release
― light will have borne the eternal thing (imago), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 22:17 (eleven years ago)
let us hope this hastens the moment when we can burn this prize down forever
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 22:19 (eleven years ago)
yep
― light will have borne the eternal thing (imago), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 22:20 (eleven years ago)
i thought no one listened to that james blake album. though that one jools holland performance was quite nice.
re nick's list, nik colk is as much of a creative force in factory floor as either of the guys, if not more, right? so nick can get a pass for now, with a 'must do better next time' proviso.
― Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 22:20 (eleven years ago)
lol hands up who even knew jLLLLLames blake put out an album this year
― Jesus (wins), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 22:39 (eleven years ago)
iirc it was notable for having this 'just got dumped while visiting the local natural history museum' album cover and little more:
http://images.contactmusic.com/images/press/james-blake-overgrown2.jpg
― Merdeyeux, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 22:41 (eleven years ago)
ahaaaa amazing
― Jesus (wins), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 22:44 (eleven years ago)
lolll
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 22:45 (eleven years ago)
that hand is compelling
mercury earned
― Jesus (wins), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 22:46 (eleven years ago)
music for sly armpit scratches
― light will have borne the eternal thing (imago), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 22:54 (eleven years ago)
totally pleased for james, i've known his label ppl for years and they are great dudes, deserve this recognition from the british music community for a rare independent voice in a world drowned out by scenesters and dickheads
― nakhchivan, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 23:34 (eleven years ago)
― lex pretend, Wednesday, October 30, 2013 10:19 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
delighted to be proved rong on this point but it feels more like the natural mnstrm reaction to an album like this winning this stupid fucking prize is 'o shi best figure out what we missed abt this thing' as opposed to 'look at these clowns, giving a prize to a not terribly well received album'
― when I was Ted Croker man I couldn't picture this (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 23:39 (eleven years ago)
ps delighted to confirm that was my first post itt
― when I was Ted Croker man I couldn't picture this (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 23:41 (eleven years ago)
Luckily that's not the actual album cover, at least not in the UK.
He's going out with the guitarist from Warpaint.
― I can still taste the Taboo in my mouth when I hear those songs (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 31 October 2013 08:00 (eleven years ago)
Judges called his record "inventive, poetic and poignant", adding "James Blake makes music like no-one else".
― ۩, Thursday, 31 October 2013 08:16 (eleven years ago)
Does he?
― Mark G, Thursday, 31 October 2013 09:19 (eleven years ago)
Think Lewis Taylor might have a thing or two to say about that...
― The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Thursday, 31 October 2013 09:58 (eleven years ago)
Lewis Taylor says nowt about nowt tho.
― Mark G, Thursday, 31 October 2013 10:00 (eleven years ago)
"Blake beat off David Bowie, Arctic Monkeys and Laura Mvula"
― ۩, Thursday, 31 October 2013 10:03 (eleven years ago)
some people will do anything to win
True dat...he needs to come back tho...then everyone can say who is this bloke ripping off James Blunt (sic)...
― The Pastiche Liberation Front (sonnyboy), Thursday, 31 October 2013 10:05 (eleven years ago)
lol that's such an insult to taylor xps
pished thom yorke covering jamie woon more like
― r|t|c, Thursday, 31 October 2013 10:05 (eleven years ago)
hopefully it'll be back to normal next year and Elbow / Hawley / Marling / James Blake will be nominated and win
― PaulTMA, Thursday, 31 October 2013 10:16 (eleven years ago)
I love Overgrown and thought it was unfairly slept on so for me this is a rare example of the Mercury boosting an album that deserved more attention. On the shortlist only Hopkins, Savages and Villagers have sold less so far.
He doesn't sound much like Lewis Taylor. Jamie Woon does though.
― Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 31 October 2013 11:48 (eleven years ago)
hating on soulboys, that's the problem with this country
― r|t|c, Thursday, 31 October 2013 11:51 (eleven years ago)
progressive values, new sounds
― real crittish realness queen clinty faust (nakhchivan), Thursday, 31 October 2013 11:52 (eleven years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aNRCoOsWb8
how does anyone keep a straight face to this, srs q
― r|t|c, Thursday, 31 October 2013 11:54 (eleven years ago)
RacismFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (Redirected from Anti-White Racism)
― real crittish realness queen clinty faust (nakhchivan), Thursday, 31 October 2013 11:55 (eleven years ago)
James BlakeMusic ProducerJames Blake is an English electronic music producer and singer-songwriter from London. Blake was the runner-up in BBC's Sound of 2011 poll. WikipediaBorn: September 26, 1988 (age 25), London Borough of EnfieldHeight: 1.96 mParents: James Litherland
I wish they put those heights in feet and inches...
― Mark G, Thursday, 31 October 2013 12:00 (eleven years ago)
I stood next to him once and he was def v tall
"you're really overgrown, James," I said to him as a twinkle formed in his eye
― when I was Ted Croker man I couldn't picture this (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 31 October 2013 12:01 (eleven years ago)
parthenogenesis
― real crittish realness queen clinty faust (nakhchivan), Thursday, 31 October 2013 12:04 (eleven years ago)
parthenogenesisjames blake nemesisno one move a muscle as they laud Overgrown
― glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 31 October 2013 14:21 (eleven years ago)