i'm up to my ears in green linnet/flying fish/shanachie/kicking mule/rooster/fretless/topic/rounder records

and folkways and ian's favorite folk-legacy label. got in like 1200 records from a radio station. mostly 80's stuff. flying fish was doing some seriously productive drugs in the 80's because they must have put out a thousand records back then. 80% is stuff i don't want to listen to.

meanwhile, where is the love for Dan Ar Bras? i love his Acoustic album on green linnet. and his album Music For The Silences To Come...on shanachie.

also, every time i get that archie fisher album in on folk-legacy i love playing it but i never keep it for some reason. i should keep the copy i played today. such a great album.

and everyone needs that mick hanly album A Kiss In The Morning Early on Green Linnet. though i think it might have been on Mulligan in the u.k.

oh and i dug the savoy-doucet cajun band record on arhoolie today. mostly cuz i like ann savoy. not so much for the doucet part.

i think i must have put out at least 500 $2 records yesterday and today. mostly flying fish related.

http://store.acousticsounds.com/images/large/UHAN_1339__22113__05072009013547-7764.jpg

^^Ukelele before ukelele was cool

need to check out the General Humbert album on shanachie. i like mary black. also need to check out the tom gilfellon album In The Middle Of The Tune on Topic. never seen that one before. martin carthy on that one.

i'm keeping the Oldham Tinkers record on Topic. Sit Thee Down. so lovely.

got a bunch of folk kid records and they always look so sad. got a nice malvina reynolds one though. and the mike and peggy seeger kid music box-set which is a treat.

I think the majority of the records I bought 25 years ago were on green linnet & shanachie

keeping this too for the instrumentals. on Volcano Records out of Ashford, WA.

http://mobile.collectorsfrenzy.com/gallery/170845249881.jpg

this is how i got all the folkways stuff for the store.

https://scontent-a-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1009891_10152507206122137_72308284_n.jpg

lots of other world stuff too. mostly 80's releases.

seriously though why aren't hepcats on the dan ar bras tip? easier for me to sell his buddy alan stivell's stuff.

oh and Philo and Minstral records of course too. and june appal. june appal kind of one of the best small american labels ever really.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYkLi3RyNwQ

i got that. i think i've listened to him before in the past...and can't remember much. i know people still like him though. i read about him a bit after he died.

i see your bill morrissey and raise you a bill staines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR7Q9cQhvFg

banish misfortune on June Appal is such a great record

i dig that record too.

Front Hall might be my least fave label like this. so hard for me to find anything to like on that label.

but seriously when you are faced with a couple of hundred flying fish records you kinda wonder if it was a tax scam of some sort because there was no way in hell they were selling this stuff.

i think i got just about every norman blake album. such a pleasure.

'80s folk is mostly unlistenable. i grew up in an '80s folk family. run.

there is some great stuff though! just a lot to wade through.

ts: that dinner ladies cover vs that barenaked ladies cover

for instance, this is an amazing album:

http://rymimg.com/lk/f/l/9bc65496e7a8c10320f55c10fa7409be/4713045.jpg

but its on a non-existent label. teeny tiny label.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf5RrAfvwUU

that album is beyooooootiful.

Damn, I wish I lived near your store. I love a lot of that stuff. I don't think 80s folk is unlistenable at all -- it just depends what you're listening to. Those labels have put out some amazing music. Musicians like Bill Staines and Norman Blake are among my favorites. Any Ed Trickett, Jim Ringer, Mary McCaslin? Red Clay Ramblers? Utah Phillips?

topic and rounder are important record labels. let's get that straight right off the bat. the other...less so, but they did all put out great stuff and the shanachie empire certainly responsible for turning a lot of people on to a WHOLE world of music. but Front Hall is still kind of a lame label. green linnet also very important in licensing music that never ever would have been put out here by anyone else which is completely insane when you consider how strong and essential a lot of the stuff they put out was. there is this though:

"In 2002, Green Linnet was sued for unpaid royalties by bands Cherish the Ladies and Altan and artists Mick Moloney, Joanie Madden and Eileen Ivers.[2] Most artists were paid and most claims were settled in 2006. There remain, however, a number of outstanding claims that have yet to be resolved, clouding the legacy left behind by Green Linnet and its then-owner Wendy Newton. Bands have been known to leave the label because of poor management from the label, including Wolfstone and Lúnasa."

green linnet catalog now owned by:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compass_Records

preston reed's pointing up (flying fish, 1982) is a really good acoustic guitar album.

rounder has obviously released about 17 million records over the years, but these two george jones comps in particular are two of the most important possessions i have ever possessed. i still remember getting them from rounder mailorder with a handwritten note inside congratulating me on my good taste!

http://eil.com/images/main/George+Jones+-+Burn+The+Honky+Tonk+Down+-+LP+RECORD-449453.jpg http://eil.com/images/main/George+Jones+-+Heartaches+And+Hangovers+-+LP+RECORD-449449.jpg

yeah i won't list essential rounder releases here. its endless.

so many dulcimers...

I have only just begun with Topic. Penguin Eggs and Martin carthy out of the cut. They both SOUND magnificent and are both undemonstrative in their mastery.

The Martin carthy because of a mention in Marcello's blog

Robin Williamson albums? I got to see Robin in small clubs a number of times in the late '80s (like maybe '86 would have been the earliest). I think he used to live part of the year (?) in California.

got a bunch of his. even HIS kid's record.

in true hipster fashion though this is the record that has haunted me the most. one of the few i'm keeping. just can't get over how great it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2fUbUj4nD9s

so many dudes i never listen to. john gorka. greg brown. i think i got every mark o'connor record. from tiny bluegrass prodigy to new age prog bluegrass soundscaper:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-on5odsRa9A

weird things on that shanachie site

http://shanachie.com/videos/1193-car-54-where-are-you-the-complete-second-season/

shanachie is bonkers. they put out all kinds of crazy shit.

i kinda like Trapezoid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FApbt9BjtXA

It would appear that the ownership and management of Green Linnet have
felt secure in mistreating their artists because historically folk and
traditional musicians have not possessed the resources to take legal
action against major corporations. What Green Linnet clearly did not
anticipate is that so many distinguished artists would come together to
take collective action against them.

The distinguished Irish musician and teacher Mick Moloney summed it up
by saying, "In recent years the management of Green Linnet has come up
with a typical rejoinder when confronted by artists demanding justice.
‘Sue us,’ they say. Well, it’s finally happened."

when shit gets real in celtic music

i'm a fan of early 80's new age/world/jazz/folk fusion. later in the 80's the production was hell and i can't hang. you can find good early 80's stuff on jazz and folk AND new age labels. you know, tabla and mandolin and gongs and sax. i liked that early tri atma stuff in the 80's. and i liked do'a. inner city records, the jazz label, put out a bunch of stuff like that in the late 70's/early 80's. weird hybrids.

man... i wish i lived closer to your store.
i love all this shit.
norman blake is my boy. mary mccaslin, rosalie sorrels... dick gaughan. rounder put out so many awesome records, no doubt about it. super important.
the shanachia offshoot MORNING STAR put out three EXCELLENT compilations of kentucky fiddle music orig issued on Gennett. they also put out some killer cajun stuff, and a wonderful comp of early western/cowboy music. not to mention all that cape breton fiddle stuff i love -- angus chisolm, bill lamey, and the irish blokes like paddy killoran and michael coleman.

utah phillips? rules.
jim ringer? rules.

did you get much REBEL RECORDS stuff? lots of great bluegrass. country gentlemen, seldom scene...

it sucks. they ran that label out of danbury in my neck of the woods for years.

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xpost Molly Scott put out a record on fretless that fits into that new age/jazz/folk hybrid zone.. it's actually okay.

only three hours from my apartment to your store...

what i might actually do is go to visit my dad sometime in the next few weeks and maybe make a day trip out to you...

i got some rebel stuff. not a ton. cool ralph stanley album i hadn't seen. Old Home Place.

molly scott lives around here.

you really do seem to have it all out there in the wilds of western mass!

feel bad for claudia schmidt nobody wants her records. nanci griffith! can't give her records away. remember when people liked her?

shadowfax!

check out the first couple Ancient Future records.

http://rateyourmusic.com/artist/doa_f2

first four tri atma albums worth investigating.

i like the solar plexus albums on inner city. there are all kinds of variations though. african/new age/folk hybrids. south american/new age/folk hybrids. you know, it was a thing. folk and jazz people were up for anything.

I have a Tri Atma record, but I always thought of them as being more fusion/cosmic, like Wally Badarou, Tullio De Piscopo, or even Unknown Cases. I mean don't they bring a little 'World sound' into their music?

Not that the world/african/south american sounds are off putting.

yah, total world thing. but that's the stuff i like. the world melts onto the folk onto the jazz or whatever. doesn't even have to include jazz but i like when it does. just seems like the 70's and very early 80's stuff was better at it before things got kinda cheesy. more organic.

speaking of which, there is a local guy here who made music like that. tony vacca. this record is really good:

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/1060/timmoran2.jpg

http://www.roundflat.com/web/images/tim%20moran%20&%20Ton%20vacca%20-%20wizard.jpg

he still makes music like that.

every time i get that archie fisher album in on folk-legacy i love playing it but i never keep it for some reason. i should keep the copy i played today. such a great album.

Which album is that?

http://mainlynorfolk.info/folk/images/largerec/themanwitharhyme_fss61.jpg

best album. really really good.

Don't know that one, I like him

I bought this 1986 record on Flying Fish when it was new after being floored by their gig at the Birchmere in DC. Originally a homemade cassette sold at their shows, it predates any of their "real" albums - and is excellent. It's since been sold on bigger labels with different cover art.

http://open.spotify.com/track/53LttpBBtBjiH53AwwaSL9

http://www.softshoe-slim.com/covers2/g/gregson_collister01a.jpg

i got that. i'll check it out.

lol, 12 minutes of folk. i crazy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TfnXj-wOik

that chicken chokers record has a good michael hurley cover iirc

wow, never seen that sam chatmon record. i bet that's good!!!!

Yes to Ann Savoy! And other Cajun and zydeco releases.

Yes to reggae and African releases on Shanachie!

the photo on the back of the Wizard's Dance record is awesome!

irrational hatred today of people who put up five dollar folk records on ebay at buy it now prices of $49.95. assholes. wait, totally rational...

and SOOOOOOOO many people do that shit. used to just shrug it off but jesus dude at the very least make it ten bucks and actually sell the friggin' thing and make someone happy for once in your dumb life.

people who list records on small folk labels as PRIVATE ACID FOLK PSYCH are among the most disgusting savages imo.

^ the ridiculous thing being that anyone looking for records listed as such will do a search for the artist or title they're looking for. NOBODY does an eBay search on PRIVATE ACID PSYCH FOLK or even just one of those terms

mislabeling something pales in comparison to someone sitting on a dumb record not worth much and trying to gouge someone.

keeping these. homespun charm. i can live without the blues singing on some tracks, but the demented fahey-esque string-bending on some tracks is cool. dude from el paso. also does demented stuff with a dobro. strangles his dobro. 6 string/12 string/bottleneck/dobro.

http://www.audiophileusa.com/covers400/82194.jpg

http://www.audiophileusa.com/covers400/90264.jpg

keeping the andy irvine/paul brady album too. i've owned it before and i always sell it and now i'm like fuggit its one of the great 70's folk albums and if you ever see it somewhere just buy it. either the mulligan pressing or the green linnet reissue. you are good either way.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51FqefZWGIL._SY300_.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvT-ZxOiXDY

How large is your personal collection, Scott? Do you keep it at the store or at home?

i haven't counted. all my stuff is at home. 5000? 6000? i dunno. i TRY to get rid of stuff but i'm bad at getting rid of stuff.

i love that steve called his direct-to-disk album Alone...Direct. so cool.

http://www.wirz.de/music/mann/grafik/gillalo4.jpg

his name sounded familiar and i looked and he had a cool vanguard album from the 60's that i never see and i looked it up and it sells for some money. 30. 50. depending on the day of the week. anyway, i looked just in case on ebay and there was a new buy it now for $5.99. which i thought was cool. so i got it.

http://www.wirz.de/music/rosmini/grafik/gillett4.jpg

ha, i see that steve gillette a lot. or i used to... never would have considered putting more than $10 on it.

really? maybe i looked at old prices. i never see it. maybe he was big around nyc and not here.

all that folkie stuff is everywhere over here.

well, in any case, someone paid 50 bucks for it at some point. see, that was probably one of those guys i hate selling that copy. they sat on a copy for years at $49.95 and then finally Steve Gillette got drunk and bought a copy late at night. law of averages.

i dunno, all the time is maybe an exaggeration -- but i saw it a few times a eyar at least.

yeah, of course. folk city X 10. thats cool though.

okay looks like the mono copy sells for more. which more than likely means you'd have to find a promo. which isn't impossible. now i want a mono copy...

besides the first dylan record, what are the cases of stereo copies selling for more than mono copies?

mmmm...vanguard white label...

sorry.

there are cases!

stereo please please me for instance.

good to know. ;)

first pressing anyway.

also the first stereo vee jay introducing the beatles too. goes for a ton. very hard to find.

this is what people should look for. and that isn't thousands of dollars. it was a double album comp put out in 1971 by epic and it has these killer stereo mixes that are ONLY on this album. one of the best sounding rock records i own. so heavy! makes DC5 sound amazing. and i already love them. anyway it can go for 40 and up still, but most people would never buy it even if it was 10 bucks. its an old dave clark five best-of. who cares? such an amazing pressing. get a really clean copy. if you see one. cheap. i never see it though. maybe the appetite for the band wasn't so strong in 1971.

http://www.popsike.com/pix/20130405/261196177109.jpg

Yeah I tried to find a rip of that online when you posted abt it before, to no avail.

listening to this now. i love this album. i don't know where you would find a copy of this. got this with the folk/cape breton/celtic collection i bought a while back. i had two and sold one to a friend who appreciated it.

http://www.recordsmerchant.com/lps/inc7727f.jpg

http://www.recordsmerchant.com/lps/inc7727b.jpg

best album. really really good.

― scott seward, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 12:55 (eleven years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Scott OTM eleven years ago. The album being "The Man With a Rhyme" by Archie Fisher. It's a fantastic album.

I love Archie Fisher anyway, love his voice, his guitar playing and his own songwriting. I avoided listening to him for years because he's kind of an institution in Scotland and I thought he'd be a bit corny, like the Corries, but the Corries aren't corny and neither is Archie Fisher.

Amusingly the fag, sorry cigarette, Archie has dangling from his gob on the front cover appears to have been airbrushed out in later pressings of this album.

i'm so traumatized by gordon bok records, didn't think there was anything on folk-legacy worth checking out