Best track on "Face Value" by Phil Collins

Message Bookmarked

Bookmark Removed

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7hLSYLz3XeM/Tkx7HrXqd5I/AAAAAAAAAF4/4f8aXU9XQvI/s1600/Phil+Collins+Face+Value.jpg

Poll Results

Option	Votes
In the Air Tonight	16
I Missed Again	4
Hand in Hand	4
Droned	2
I'm Not Moving	2
If Leaving Me is Easy	2
The Roof is Leaking	1
Behind the Lines	1
Thunder and Lightning	1
Tomorrow Never Knows	1
This Must Be Love	0
You Know What I Mean	0

― arctic mindbath (President of the People's Republic of Antarctica), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 20:30 (twelve years ago)

This one's easy. No Jacket Required would be tougher.

― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 20:31 (twelve years ago)

"If Leaving Me is Easy" is the surprise -- did he ever attempt this desolation again? Same goes for "The Roof is Leaking."

― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 20:31 (twelve years ago)

argh, missed out "Droned". can someone please delete this and let me start again?

and yeah, Johnny, I expect this to be a walk for "In the Air Tonight", but I like this album and hope to initiate a general discussion about it as a whole, rather than just have the competition.

― arctic mindbath (President of the People's Republic of Antarctica), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 20:32 (twelve years ago)

Well, let's begin with Marcello's piece: http://nobilliards.blogspot.com/2013/02/phil-collins-face-value.html

― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 20:33 (twelve years ago)

actually, no, i didn't. disregard...

― arctic mindbath (President of the People's Republic of Antarctica), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 20:33 (twelve years ago)

Looked up the tracklist for Hello, I Must Be Going! and found this:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/49/Thru_These_Walls.jpg/220px-Thru_These_Walls.jpg

― ... (Eazy), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 20:36 (twelve years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzVrkCMqkDA

― piscesx, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 20:49 (twelve years ago)

I said this just the other day, but Droned is fantastic. Some sort of Glass-influenced ethno-jazz thing, I could have used a whole album of that stuff.

― gotta lol geir (NickB), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:07 (twelve years ago)

xxxxxxpost: Alfred, I agree with you about the stark desolation of "If Leaving Me is Easy", to me it's almost suicidally grim. "The Roof is Leaking" is a slow, sad song, but there seems to be an indication of hope; although the winter is long, spring will eventually return. "If Leaving" doesn't offer any such respite. It's a relief when "Tomorrow Never Knows" kicks in, signalling, as Marcello wrote, a new beginning.

I really enjoy the upbeat tracks on this and especially the instrumentals. Most of the songs on here are very good and it's hard to pick a true stand-out, even with "In the Air Tonight" on the record.

NickB: yeah, I could listen to Droned all day. I like how it, "The Roof is Leaking" and "Hand in Hand" (my personal favourite of the three) form a mini-suite at the end of side one.

― arctic mindbath (President of the People's Republic of Antarctica), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:09 (twelve years ago)

Have to say how great the cover is too. Didn't work half as well when he tried the same close-up portrait trick on the next couple (No Jacket Required is especially repulsive), but this one with the face filling the whole frame is just weird and awesome.

― gotta lol geir (NickB), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:09 (twelve years ago)

The back cover scalp-shot is a huge bunch of do-not-want though. Makes me all itchy.

― gotta lol geir (NickB), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:10 (twelve years ago)

I wonder what people's expectations of Collins' solo career were after Face Value first came out? Did they expect something along the lines of Peter Gabriel's output? I bet very few people expected he'd become one of the biggest pop stars in the world.

― arctic mindbath (President of the People's Republic of Antarctica), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:13 (twelve years ago)

No Jacket Required is especially repulsive

I think this is quite a cool effect, though. Something to do with the way they're all slightly different colours?

― it was discovered that there's no rule that a dog cannot play basketball (bends), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:14 (twelve years ago)

I hadn't noticed this before but pretty much all of Phil's albums seem to take the Horrible 70s album titles like I've Got My Own Album To Do approach to coming up with a name.

― it was discovered that there's no rule that a dog cannot play basketball (bends), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:16 (twelve years ago)

A bunch of people at school went to see Phil on the NJR tour and all turned up the next day in t-shirts with Phil's horrible sweaty baked-bean face on the front. Worst ever! That said, I'm now toying with the idea of getting the rings on my next stove top custom-made in the same design.

― gotta lol geir (NickB), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:24 (twelve years ago)

I like pretty much the whole of side one of Face Value. Even enjoy the strange funky Behind The Lines refit, the crispness of the EWF horns is just wonderful.

― gotta lol geir (NickB), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:24 (twelve years ago)

I hadn't realised that the No Jacket Required cover was by Peter Ashworth. That one doesn't seem to appear on his website for some reason.

http://www.ashworth-photos.com/music/musicArchive.html#adamant

― it was discovered that there's no rule that a dog cannot play basketball (bends), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:28 (twelve years ago)

http://www.theuncoolhunter.com/Backend/upload/uncool_504.jpg

― gotta lol geir (NickB), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:33 (twelve years ago)

You could actually turn NJR into Kings of the Wild Frontier pretty easily imo.

― gotta lol geir (NickB), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:34 (twelve years ago)

I mean the cover obv, not the music.

― gotta lol geir (NickB), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:34 (twelve years ago)

Without listening to it all again, the one song that really bugs me on this is Thunder & Lightning with its horrible, horrible lyrics.

― gotta lol geir (NickB), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:35 (twelve years ago)

http://www.everytattoo.com/data/media/23/l_4baf13bea254b8e157d40f4ac4f91a5b.jpg

― fit and working again, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:37 (twelve years ago)

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/07/04/article-1291882-0A51E901000005DC-573_634x695.jpg

― gotta lol geir (NickB), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:39 (twelve years ago)

I'm worried about spoiling this poll with the NJR tangent, but I always wondered if this a deliberate homage:

http://cps-static.rovicorp.com/3/JPG_400/MI0000/387/MI0000387648.jpg?partner=allrovi.com

― it was discovered that there's no rule that a dog cannot play basketball (bends), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:43 (twelve years ago)

we are getting value from his face so it's all relevant. what is that picture?

― gotta lol geir (NickB), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:44 (twelve years ago)

'Bitches Without Britches' by Kevin Blechdom

― it was discovered that there's no rule that a dog cannot play basketball (bends), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:46 (twelve years ago)

the album cover, anyway.

― it was discovered that there's no rule that a dog cannot play basketball (bends), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:46 (twelve years ago)

xxxpost: I was thinking about doing polls for each of his first four albums, but I'm liking the evolution of the discussion so far. Never seen that "Bitches Without Britches" cover before, what kind of music is it?

― arctic mindbath (President of the People's Republic of Antarctica), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:48 (twelve years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO6bq0bD5Jo

― it was discovered that there's no rule that a dog cannot play basketball (bends), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:52 (twelve years ago)

oh i've just remebered the "aowwwww" noises that he makes on Thunder & Lightning, those always appalled me too

― gotta lol geir (NickB), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:54 (twelve years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMyImrkA1j8&list=PL5AE3B5E8726F3927&index=1

^ Face Value Classic Albums documentary in five parts, might even watch it myself

― gotta lol geir (NickB), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:59 (twelve years ago)

The run from Roof Is Leaking > Droned > Hand In Hand seems to me as the peak of Collins' solo work. But to choose only one, it'd be Droned.

― doug watson, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 23:14 (twelve years ago)

good pie-anna too

― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 23:18 (twelve years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7b/ISHKB_Jim_Diamond.jpg

― PaulTMA, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 23:33 (twelve years ago)

Could this be the best cover of "Tomorrow Never Knows"?

― Hideous Lump, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 02:09 (twelve years ago)

man the way "behind the lines" is totally reinvigorated by the earth wind & fire horns

― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 06:44 (twelve years ago)

I remember the first couple of times I heard "I Missed Again" on the radio. For some reason, I thought he was singing "Ah, Mister Ginn" - I went to school with a kid named Pat Ginn and couldn't figure out why someone was on the radio singing about him.

― My question is primarily riparian (Phil D.), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 10:42 (twelve years ago)

Could this be the best cover of "Tomorrow Never Knows"?

No, this is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUrGfo-bJo8

― i lost my shoes on acid (jed_), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 11:10 (twelve years ago)

It's this surely. Not Phil at any rate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1YKfu5sD24

― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 11:27 (twelve years ago)

I likes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc2JTQZ_nfQ

― Mark G, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 15:25 (twelve years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

― System, Monday, 14 October 2013 00:01 (twelve years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

― System, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 00:01 (twelve years ago)

You Know What I Mean 0

incidentally gorgeous and robbed

― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 01:40 (twelve years ago)

IT'S ALL BEEN A PACK O LIES

― St3ve Go1db3rg, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 12:42 (twelve years ago)

glad to see "I Missed Again" and "Hand in Hand" as the runner-ups, lost classics imo.

― arctic mindbath (President of the People's Republic of Antarctica), Thursday, 17 October 2013 02:21 (twelve years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdFtcAa_pYk

― OutdoorFish, Thursday, 17 October 2013 21:32 (twelve years ago)

I gave But Seriously a re-evaluation last year, and yeah, the title is correct: the production is lifeless.

― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 October 2013 21:34 (twelve years ago)

two years pass...

has anyone else been listening to Face Value on spotify recently and halfway through the album happened to glance at the image of the album cover in the bottom left hand corner of the screen and been TOTALLY FREAKED OUT to see this?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/ff/Phil_Collins_Face_Value_2016_cover.png

so obviously it'd been reissued with a new cover for a 'deluxe edition', but I really thought I was going insane for a moment

― soref, Saturday, 5 March 2016 15:37 (nine years ago)

Hello, I Must Be Going! and No Jacket Required have also been reissued with spooky old man phil covers

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b7/Phil_Collins_Hello%2C_I_Must_Be_Going%21_2016_cover.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2a/Phil_Collins_No_Jacket_Required_2016_cover.jpeg

― soref, Saturday, 5 March 2016 15:40 (nine years ago)

Fucking hell!

― // C R A P L I V E B A N D // LOVE (Turrican), Saturday, 5 March 2016 15:47 (nine years ago)

this one is a bit more subtle (old phil is on the left, young-ish phil on the right)

https://consequenceofsound.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/phil-collins-dance-into-the-light-merger11.jpg?w=806&h=403

― soref, Saturday, 5 March 2016 15:53 (nine years ago)

The writing is different, too. Why the fuck has he bothered? Seems like a lot of effort for... no good reason!

― // C R A P L I V E B A N D // LOVE (Turrican), Saturday, 5 March 2016 15:57 (nine years ago)

Picture of Dorian Phil?

― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 5 March 2016 19:15 (nine years ago)

Droned still rules btw

― François Pitchforkian (NickB), Saturday, 5 March 2016 19:19 (nine years ago)

most of this album rules. "This Must Be Love" is perfect: the bass, percussion, the synth.

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 5 March 2016 19:20 (nine years ago)

xxxpost

Did he not do one for ...But Seriously?

― // 58,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Saturday, 5 March 2016 19:21 (nine years ago)

this mortal coll

― François Pitchforkian (NickB), Saturday, 5 March 2016 19:31 (nine years ago)

I find those rejigged sleeves TERRIFYING, though I love those first three solo LPs

― pantsuit aficionado (stevie), Sunday, 6 March 2016 20:19 (nine years ago)

http://36.media.tumblr.com/6acfe62d4ec48010f4f67ad5c56073e2/tumblr_mmahmmpzSa1rg1ucro1_1280.jpg

Behold the ravages of age!

― soref, Sunday, 6 March 2016 20:24 (nine years ago)

The one for No Jacket Required is particularly WTF.

― // 58,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Sunday, 6 March 2016 20:39 (nine years ago)

No Jacket Required he looks so... sweaty.

― Tom Violence, Monday, 7 March 2016 01:29 (nine years ago)

Just think how sweaty he'd been if a jacket <was> required!

― Now I Know How Joan of Arcadia Felt (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 7 March 2016 01:42 (nine years ago)

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 March 2016 02:00 (nine years ago)

He's done new sleeves for Both Sides and Testify too, the only one that seems to be missing is ...But Seriously

― // 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Monday, 7 March 2016 19:46 (nine years ago)

Needs an update:

http://fontmeme.com/images/Buster-Poster.jpg

― ... (Eazy), Monday, 7 March 2016 19:50 (nine years ago)

Jude Law for the biopic!
http://cdn-s3.thewrap.com/images/2014/03/Law-News-618x400.jpg

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 7 March 2016 19:57 (nine years ago)

LP is the only way to appreciate how large and frightening his face is/was on these.

― dinnerboat, Monday, 7 March 2016 20:05 (nine years ago)

x-post:

TS: having an affair with the nanny vs. divorcing your wife by fax.

― // 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Monday, 7 March 2016 20:10 (nine years ago)

i don't know if the other albums followed suit, but face value had the back of his head on the back cover. did they update that too?

― François Pitchforkian (NickB), Monday, 7 March 2016 20:40 (nine years ago)

it would seem so

original:

http://kuvat.huuto.net/1/54/9b1eb8b8714f905423793360c2b5d-m.jpg

2016 version:

https://cdn.discogs.com/FYG29APsJfn3AMrYUO16BDneLYo=/fit-in/600x538/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(96)/discogs-images/R-8112850-1455379725-9887.jpeg.jpg

― soref, Monday, 7 March 2016 20:47 (nine years ago)

at least I hope that's the back of his head etc

― soref, Monday, 7 March 2016 20:48 (nine years ago)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/06/Come_on_pilgrim.jpg

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 7 March 2016 20:50 (nine years ago)

being prompted to ponder the texture of old phil's scalp is um

― François Pitchforkian (NickB), Monday, 7 March 2016 21:54 (nine years ago)

serves me right for asking i suppose

― François Pitchforkian (NickB), Monday, 7 March 2016 21:54 (nine years ago)

eleven months pass...

In The Air Tonight Drum Fill for 1 hour 10 minutes at 99.9%, 100%, and 100.1% speed

https://soundcloud.com/josephprein/in-the-air-tonight-drum-fill-for-10-hours-at-999-100-and-1001-speed

― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:20 (eight years ago)

also recommend opening it in two tabs a little bit apart as i accidentally did

― lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 15:21 (eight years ago)

Jude Law for the biopic!

Love this

― who even are those other cats (Eazy), Wednesday, 1 March 2017 16:52 (eight years ago)

six years pass...

"This Must Be Love" sounds good coming after on the record.

― Mark, Monday, January 4, 2010 11:58 PM (fourteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

and was robbed in this poll

― Paul Ponzi, Monday, 19 February 2024 12:28 (one year ago)

that bass!

― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 February 2024 12:59 (one year ago)

This Must Be Love is a very John Martyn kind of song

― Bernard Quidbins (NickB), Monday, 19 February 2024 13:40 (one year ago)

That discreet, almost embarrassed synth wash.

― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 February 2024 13:46 (one year ago)

https://i.imgur.com/RS4mLFw.png

― calstars, Monday, 19 February 2024 15:01 (one year ago)

yeah, I feel like Alphonso's bass kinda elevates that one from a solid 9 to a perfect 10

― Paul Ponzi, Monday, 19 February 2024 15:15 (one year ago)

You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.