Great albums with lackluster opening tracks

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Some albums you know from the first song that it is going to be an amazing record. Then there are those with auspicious beginnings that do not even hint at the greatness that follows, tracks that you either hold your nose when it plays or maybe you skip it altogether.

This thread is for those albums...

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 10:09 (eleven years ago)

Iron Maiden's Number of the Beast is a great album from start to finish but the opener "Invaders" always seemed like a cheesy parody of what made the album great, with the band playing faster than they needed to and completing it with a cheesy chorus. Never liked the song very much. But man, is that a great album otherwise!

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 10:09 (eleven years ago)

I always avoided listening to Cowboy Movie on If I Could Only Remember My Name. Not listened to it in quite a while so may feel different now.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 10:16 (eleven years ago)

I got into the habit of skipping 'The Ballard of Peter Pumpkinhead' whenever I listened to Nonsuch by XTC, so much so that I don't think I've actually heard it in years and I'm not sure if I'd still find it lackluster.

including 'weird men' who fancy the mermaids (soref), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 10:23 (eleven years ago)

I always avoided listening to Cowboy Movie on If I Could Only Remember My Name. Not listened to it in quite a while so may feel different now.

It's not lacklustre and also, more to the point, it's not the first track

Thomas K Amphong (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 10:48 (eleven years ago)

I usually skip 'Introducing the Band' on Suede's Dog Man Star, I get what they were going for starting the album with a slow burner but it just drags.

Gavin, Leeds, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 10:58 (eleven years ago)

Rainy Day Women #12 & 35

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 11:02 (eleven years ago)

'Contre le sexisme' on A Thousand Leaves by Sonic Youth

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 11:02 (eleven years ago)

So I skipped over a whole other track that I wasn't consciously aware of to avoid listening to it. That's funny. Think i was trying to think where that other song came from after hearing it on a soundtrack somewhere or as incidental music over the last week.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 11:08 (eleven years ago)

"Amerykahn Promise"

kroegerboros (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 11:13 (eleven years ago)

AC Marias - One of Our Girls (Has Gone Missing); Trilby's Couch is a duff start. Everything else is perfection.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 11:23 (eleven years ago)

not including meaningless intros?

nostormo, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 11:23 (eleven years ago)

I suppose "Geiger Counter" on "Radioactivity", though it's sort of vital as an introduction to the album

Thomas K Amphong (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 11:30 (eleven years ago)

"Then there are those with auspicious beginnings that do not even hint at the greatness that follows"

contradiction

nostormo, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 11:33 (eleven years ago)

kill me but "Bodhisattva"

nostormo, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 11:34 (eleven years ago)

You're dead

Thomas K Amphong (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 11:46 (eleven years ago)

Kristofferson is almost solid gold but Blame It on the Stones is the worst track by far.

Radio Song is a lousy introduction to Out of Time.

Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 11:52 (eleven years ago)

Isn't the classic example Rainy Day Women #12 & 35? I guess it's not lacklustre though - you don't forget it in a hurry.

Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 11:53 (eleven years ago)

Rubber Soul

nate woolls, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 12:39 (eleven years ago)

Classic Albums With Not-So-Classic Opening Tracks

nostormo, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 12:42 (eleven years ago)

wipers' - over the edge

nostormo, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 12:44 (eleven years ago)

sort of

nostormo, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 12:44 (eleven years ago)

xp Oh man, not only had I forgotten that thread, I forgot that I mentioned Kristofferson in it. I'm just on an ILX loop now.

Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 12:50 (eleven years ago)

wipers' - over the edge

????????????????

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 13:21 (eleven years ago)

I usually skip 'Introducing the Band' on Suede's Dog Man Star, I get what they were going for starting the album with a slow burner but it just drags.

― Gavin, Leeds, Tuesday, November 26, 2013 10:58 AM (2 hours ago)

I always listen to that track, it's such a great piece of pompous arrogance.
Kraftwerk's 'Geiger Counter' is a great mood setter and I always listen to that as well.

fashionably early Christmas themed display name (snoball), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 13:27 (eleven years ago)

Hang on, Nate, did you suggest that Drive My Car is lacklustre?!

I can still taste the Taboo in my mouth when I hear those songs (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 13:36 (eleven years ago)

While I couldn't really call the Manic Street Preachers' This Is My Truth, Tell Me Yours a great album, my god did they sequence that album badly. 'The Everlasting' as first track!?!

zip-a-dee-doo-dah, motherfucker! (Turrican), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 13:59 (eleven years ago)

for as big a deal as that album was Radio Song is maybe the best answer. Its not even representative of the rest of the album - aside from the arpeggio bit - never mind being any good. How many 80s REM fans jumped off the boat when they first heard that?

Master of Treacle, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 14:00 (eleven years ago)

"Lackluster" isn't the right word, but... Electric Ladyland.

WilliamC, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 14:01 (eleven years ago)

"Fruits of my Labor" by Lucinda Williams off of World Without Tears. Great album but the opener really drags.

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 14:16 (eleven years ago)

Maybe not lacklustre but it's by far the worst song on RS and one I almost always skip.

xp

nate woolls, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 14:19 (eleven years ago)

Worse than "What Goes On"?

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 14:23 (eleven years ago)

It's not a great album but Usher's Looking 4 Myself begins with two of its worst tracks.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 14:27 (eleven years ago)

Okay maybe it's not as bad as What Goes On but it's easier to skip.

nate woolls, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 14:29 (eleven years ago)

"Born in the USA"

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 14:30 (eleven years ago)

Iron Maiden's Number of the Beast is a great album from start to finish but the opener "Invaders" always seemed like a cheesy parody of what made the album great, with the band playing faster than they needed to and completing it with a cheesy chorus. Never liked the song very much. But man, is that a great album otherwise!

― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, November 26, 2013 5:09 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Wow, i think Invaders is a great opening not only to the album but Dickinson's Iron Maiden career. I love this song.

One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 14:40 (eleven years ago)

"Love It to Death" perhaps? I've never liked "Caught in a Dream" but maybe that's just me.

Thomas K Amphong (Tom D.), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 14:51 (eleven years ago)

Always thought "Bring Da Ruckus" was a really weak opening track for 36 Chambers.

Poliopolice, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 15:34 (eleven years ago)

Drive My Car is probably my favourite on RS.

I can still taste the Taboo in my mouth when I hear those songs (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 15:38 (eleven years ago)

Emphatic no on "Rainy Day Woman #12 & 35" (will agree that it's misleading in comparison to the rest of the album--it's more in the mood of Highway 61). Thinking of all my favourite albums, and they all start with something great...I'll think of one eventually.

clemenza, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 16:11 (eleven years ago)

Mr Bungle - Disco Volante.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 16:13 (eleven years ago)

I mean 'Everyone I went to High School With is Dead' sort of works conceptually, but I can never be bothered to listen to it.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 16:14 (eleven years ago)

I believe the instrumental piano twinkling of "Mellon Collie & the Infinite Sadness" counts.

LimbsKing, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 16:14 (eleven years ago)

"Love It to Death" perhaps? I've never liked "Caught in a Dream" but maybe that's just me.

― Thomas K Amphong (Tom D.), Tuesday, November 26, 2013 9:51 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

another one im a little shocked. Caught in a Dream is a great opener

One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 16:17 (eleven years ago)

"Tutti Frutti" on the MC5's Back in the USA--lot of great songs, rather pointless cover to open. "Tonight" would have been better.

clemenza, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 16:33 (eleven years ago)

"Love's In Need Of Love Today" is my perennial go-to on this front (one of my least favorite album openers ever on one of my favorite albums ever). Also was recently reminded of "Black Book" from the Malkmus debut. That song is not good and it took me a while to get past it and into the rest of the album.

Gumming The Fun Tunnel (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 16:38 (eleven years ago)

"Satisfied" on Squeeze's tragically underrated Play - And it was the first single!

Hideous Lump, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 03:52 (eleven years ago)

i've always hated 'do the strand' on for your pleasure and 'the new stone age' on architecture & morality, and i associate them b/c the both embody none of the characteristics that i love about their respective albums while also being sort of brash and obvious.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 27 November 2013 04:26 (eleven years ago)

"Do The Strand" was the first time I heard a Roxy Music album. It's one of maybe a handful of instances where the immediacy and intensity of the first listen held up through all subsequent listens. I love it (and "Editions of You" and "Grey Lagoons" and everything else on the first five Roxy records) in part because it's brash and obvious.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 04:43 (eleven years ago)

it was the first time i heard roxy music, too! i'm glad i made it to the next track

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 27 November 2013 05:10 (eleven years ago)

I stand by def Leps women being lackluster and learning they say spell rather than smell just strengthens my resolve

da croupier, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 22:04 (eleven years ago)

When I only had hysteria on used cassette I would flip the tape before "love and affection" so I could skip most of "women". It's like cutting a shitty crust off a great sandwich

da croupier, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 22:06 (eleven years ago)

No I take it back, Nobody Wants Your Love has a piano fadeout to die for

Dr X O'Skeleton, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 22:07 (eleven years ago)

Hey Eyeball - I mean it. The OP asked for albums when you skip the first song altogether. I do this with VU & Nico.

There was maybe a little wink there too.

kraudive, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 22:09 (eleven years ago)

The rest of it's great, but I'll nominate the first Sundays album. I've skipped the first track so many times now I don't remember what it's called.

Bloody Snail, Thursday, 28 November 2013 01:02 (eleven years ago)

"You're No Good" that opens Van Halen II is really meh. Flip it to the last tune on the record and I think it would be a whole lot better.

earlnash, Thursday, 28 November 2013 01:28 (eleven years ago)

i get not liking a track but honestly can't see how "skin and bone" is lackluster compared to the rest of the sundays album.

sleepingsignal, Thursday, 28 November 2013 01:36 (eleven years ago)

Sunday Morning isn't exactly a weak track but it's the weakest thing on VU+N and I always skip it cos i'm impatient for WFTM.

he had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up (NotEnough), Thursday, 28 November 2013 09:25 (eleven years ago)

I first heard Wu-Tang Forever on two separate promo CDs so for ages I assumed that the disc which begins Intro/Triumph was the first one, which would have been a much better idea.

Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 28 November 2013 10:29 (eleven years ago)

Sunday Morning isn't exactly a weak track but it's the weakest thing on VU+N

Sunday Morning >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> European Son

Thomas K Amphong (Tom D.), Thursday, 28 November 2013 10:48 (eleven years ago)

Stone Roses- 'I Wanna Be Adored'

late adopter, Thursday, 28 November 2013 23:45 (eleven years ago)

The Cure / Disintegration *runs away fast.

piscesx, Friday, 29 November 2013 00:53 (eleven years ago)

Speed of Life?

Iago Galdston, Friday, 29 November 2013 01:25 (eleven years ago)

god yeah.

piscesx, Friday, 29 November 2013 01:35 (eleven years ago)

I know, right? Jeez, just start with Sound and Vision and be done with it!

Iago Galdston, Friday, 29 November 2013 01:57 (eleven years ago)

Greatness debatable, but REMs Up.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 November 2013 02:02 (eleven years ago)

Both Badmotorfinger AND Superunknown

veneer timber (imago), Friday, 29 November 2013 02:22 (eleven years ago)

sadly Down On The Upside precisely inverts this formula

veneer timber (imago), Friday, 29 November 2013 02:23 (eleven years ago)

Speed of Life?

― Iago Galdston

Both Badmotorfinger AND Superunknown

― veneer timber (imago)

Disagree with all of these.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Friday, 29 November 2013 03:43 (eleven years ago)

sadly Down On The Upside precisely inverts this formula

― veneer timber (imago)

Though largely agree with this; Burden in My Hand is great as well.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Friday, 29 November 2013 03:44 (eleven years ago)

"to all the girls" on paul's boutique

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 29 November 2013 05:36 (eleven years ago)

Fuck off.

I can still taste the Taboo in my mouth when I hear those songs (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 29 November 2013 07:09 (eleven years ago)

Old Lunch mentioning Black Book off the first Malkmus is OTM

a beef supreme (dog latin), Friday, 29 November 2013 10:01 (eleven years ago)

Speed of Life?

No way, that's a great start. Wanting to listen to Speed of Life is usually what makes me put on Low in the first place.

Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 29 November 2013 10:10 (eleven years ago)

Four Tet - Rounds

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Friday, 29 November 2013 14:34 (eleven years ago)

Sunday Morning is the only good track on VU&N /challops

a beef supreme (dog latin), Friday, 29 November 2013 14:37 (eleven years ago)

I think Geir actually said that at one point, if I'm not mistaken

Thomas K Amphong (Tom D.), Friday, 29 November 2013 14:41 (eleven years ago)

Speed of Life and Too High on here is madness imo

Master of Treacle, Friday, 29 November 2013 14:58 (eleven years ago)

Speed of Life?

No way, that's a great start. Wanting to listen to Speed of Life is usually what makes me put on Low in the first place.

Definitely, Speed of Life is always the one that randomly starts playing in my head and makes me put on the album. An absolutely essential part of Low.

silverfish, Friday, 29 November 2013 16:31 (eleven years ago)

SoL may actually be my fave instrumental on Low.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Friday, 29 November 2013 16:41 (eleven years ago)

The fade-in to "Speed of Life" is all-time.

willem, Saturday, 30 November 2013 10:59 (eleven years ago)

I got pissy about people ranking "Speed of Life" so high on the Bowie poll bc it's so non-indicative, but I can't really think of Low beginning any other way

politique des posteurs (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 30 November 2013 11:12 (eleven years ago)

Disco Volante, though i'm sure it was intentional in order to throw the listener off

El Camino, Saturday, 30 November 2013 11:47 (eleven years ago)

"Love Vigilantes" on New Order's 'Low Life'. Always found it
plodding and unnecessary.

That elusive North American wood-ape (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 30 November 2013 12:47 (eleven years ago)

what?!

piscesx, Saturday, 30 November 2013 13:40 (eleven years ago)

That is actually my favourite New Order song

politique des posteurs (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 30 November 2013 13:49 (eleven years ago)

People have some strange notions, for sure

Saturated with working class intelligence and not afraid to show it (Tom D.), Saturday, 30 November 2013 13:51 (eleven years ago)

I don't really like New Order at all, but that's my least favorite of the tracks I'm familiar with.

how's life, Saturday, 30 November 2013 14:37 (eleven years ago)

"I want to see / my family / my wife and child / waiting for me" is an all-time heart-rending chorus and one of Bernard's rare lyrical home-runs, imho

politique des posteurs (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 30 November 2013 15:28 (eleven years ago)

Really? That's just fly/sky/high shit to me.

how's life, Saturday, 30 November 2013 15:39 (eleven years ago)

Any lyric that successfully uses the words "my wife" is an event worth celebrating imo, evidence of the straight-male songwriting voice cutting the crap and getting right to the point

politique des posteurs (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 30 November 2013 16:37 (eleven years ago)

Compare with highly rated Bowie chorus "Please be mine / share my life / stay with me / be my wife", which also flies high in the sky

politique des posteurs (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 30 November 2013 16:39 (eleven years ago)

I'm with how's life on this.

That elusive North American wood-ape (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 30 November 2013 18:07 (eleven years ago)

Stevie Wonder has a couple of these. Too High is the weak sister on Innervisions.

fighting words. nice warm groove, catchy but understated, great kickoff.

CANONICAL artists, etc., etc. (contenderizer), Saturday, 30 November 2013 18:45 (eleven years ago)

flamboyant Otm.

"Too High" introduced me to non-hits Stevie, as in "oh he can sound like this"

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 November 2013 18:59 (eleven years ago)

and yeah, the new order line flamboyant quoted is quite moving

mine has gotta be loaded for "who loves the sun". i eventually came around on the song, it's hardly "lackluster", but i still think it's a weird way to open the album.

CANONICAL artists, etc., etc. (contenderizer), Saturday, 30 November 2013 20:30 (eleven years ago)

not counting the intros, i dislike both opening tracks from outkast's speakerboxxx/the love below. andre album doesn't even get going until track 5.

CANONICAL artists, etc., etc. (contenderizer), Saturday, 30 November 2013 20:32 (eleven years ago)

who the fuck doesnt like Rusty Cage?

Hungry4Ass, Saturday, 30 November 2013 20:41 (eleven years ago)

And even if one doesn't particularly fancy it, it's hardly "lackluster"?

Mule, Saturday, 30 November 2013 20:45 (eleven years ago)

i will give sb/tlb a listen

Phoebe (color definition point of "beyond "color, eg a transient that), Saturday, 30 November 2013 20:46 (eleven years ago)


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