Inspired in part by some of the discussion on one of the recent Velvet Underground threads. Seeing the VU as part of a wider group of artists whose major label contracts did not result in big successes.
Group from Hays, Kansas called the Blue Things (or Bluethings) that actually had an album on RCA in 1966. Super solid group who did a bunch of things including Lennon-like folk-rock:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmLLg7DPHbU
― timellison, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 20:01 (eleven years ago)
uh aren't there a million of these
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 20:04 (eleven years ago)
Looking for examples that people think are really good, which would seemingly narrow it down. What would a sort of canon of really great major label records that were not hits from the '60s look like?
― timellison, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 20:07 (eleven years ago)
And just to clarify, I don't mean records by well-known artists that were not hits. I mean artists that had no hits, no big selling albums.
― timellison, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 20:08 (eleven years ago)
Some artists on major labels that did not even make an album. In some cases, they were regional hits that were re-released through a major, but this one sounds to me like the group could have actually been recording for Columbia. Great record.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmA6ylfKpe4
― timellison, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 20:22 (eleven years ago)
Maybe not all that obscure; 60s psych-heads probably know this one, but I've been fascinated by this record since I was 11. The Queen's Nectarine Machine, ABC Records, 1969.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEH1X3goPaU
― parTy friendly (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 20:36 (eleven years ago)
Great might be overstating, though...
― parTy friendly (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 20:47 (eleven years ago)
hmm okay yeah acts that had NO hits narrows it considerably
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 20:49 (eleven years ago)
love the idea behind this thread. is there a companion thread -- or something similar -- for 50s songs? been kind of obsessed with 50s music off-and-on recently.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 20:52 (eleven years ago)
the most obvious answer would seem to be Beefheart we all know all about him so
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 20:57 (eleven years ago)
I think the "remains obscure" qualifier narrows it quite further
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 20:58 (eleven years ago)
The Choir were a band that had a regional hit ("It's Cold Outside") re-released on a fairly big label, Roulette, for whom they continued to record:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvppl2fzlds
Also thinking of the Bob Seger 45s on Cameo-Parkway.
― timellison, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 22:28 (eleven years ago)
well if yr gonna dig into Nuggets pretty much all those bands had (at least) regional hits
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 26 November 2013 22:38 (eleven years ago)
Right, was talking about instances where regional hits were reissued on big labels, though. The original Nuggets album had Cryan Shames and Sagittarius, who were both on Columbia.
― timellison, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 23:14 (eleven years ago)
I think the Gants are a good example. They were on Liberty, which also had Gary Lewis and the Playboys, the Ventures, Martin Denny, etc.
― timellison, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 23:17 (eleven years ago)
i like this jacob's creek album that no one talks about...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwakRgm6-tM
― ian, Tuesday, 26 November 2013 23:24 (eleven years ago)
Occurred to me that there are probably tons of British artists that fit here. Seems like it was more common for U.K. artists signed to majors only ending up putting out a few singles.
― timellison, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 20:30 (eleven years ago)
Tim, if you like The Blue Things, Val's post-breakup album might also be of interest.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51igHKIA04L.jpg
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 20:38 (eleven years ago)
I have heard that, actually! It's been a while. Anyone ever heard the Sean Bonniwell solo (post-Music Machine) album on Capitol?
― timellison, Wednesday, 27 November 2013 23:15 (eleven years ago)
He was such an extraordinary songwriter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDJW_d9DASg
― timellison, Thursday, 28 November 2013 01:41 (eleven years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIpNP-qmpU8
"Cowboys and Indians", the first track from The Smoke's 1968 release, and I really like the whole album. Not sure if it's a major label release though, certainly sounds good enough to be.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 28 November 2013 02:33 (eleven years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsGGbY20SR0
"Dreamworld" by The End from 1969, also not sure if it's a major label release. But it's produced by Bill Wyman and is a great psychedelic pop album that feels very much in the mood of "Her Satanic Majesties Request".
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 28 November 2013 02:37 (eleven years ago)
Huh, the Smoke album was on Sidewalk, which was a Capitol subsidiary.
― timellison, Thursday, 28 November 2013 02:56 (eleven years ago)
That album is killer. There are a few tracks that had me thinking it was really a modern band aping that sound. The middle has a really great math-rock section that I think is named after some LOTR lore or something.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 28 November 2013 03:01 (eleven years ago)
LOL
T-5905...Casey Kasem: Astrology for Young Lovers LP (1967)
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 28 November 2013 03:03 (eleven years ago)
Listening to another track from that, it says produced by Michael Lloyd (presumably the guy from the West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band) on the label.
― timellison, Thursday, 28 November 2013 03:07 (eleven years ago)
There's a video of the Music Machine playing "Astrologically Incompatible" on Kasem's show and he has an exchange with Bonniwell about the fact that he had already put out an astrology-themed record.
― timellison, Thursday, 28 November 2013 03:09 (eleven years ago)
http://thumbs3.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/miJkgjW_O8RQ-21Yyij0hNg.jpg
Have you heard the Gandalf record? I had no idea about this:
But Capitol spurned them and only released the LP in 1969 with the wrong record inside the sleeve. The copies were recalled and damaged the band's career. Capitol didn't promote the record which made the sales worse.[citation needed]
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 28 November 2013 03:13 (eleven years ago)
No, I never have. There are definitely some obscurities from the time on Capitol like SRC and Lothar and the Handpeople.
― timellison, Thursday, 28 November 2013 03:17 (eleven years ago)
Gandalf is pretty great. Their heavy cover of "Golden Earrings" that opens the album is wonderful!
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 28 November 2013 03:25 (eleven years ago)
Yeah Gandalf rule! There's also a second unreleased album that Sundazed put out, I think.
― SWM seeks intrinsically and gravely disordered action (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 28 November 2013 04:05 (eleven years ago)
Big fan of the Gandalf record... how about KAK on Epic? was that late sixties or early seventies?
― ian, Thursday, 28 November 2013 05:05 (eleven years ago)
1968. I always think it's later than that for some reason.
― SWM seeks intrinsically and gravely disordered action (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 28 November 2013 05:06 (eleven years ago)
Black Monk Time. End thread.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 28 November 2013 05:15 (eleven years ago)
That album got pretty UNobscure in the nineties, but now it's been so long that it's probably obscure again.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 28 November 2013 05:16 (eleven years ago)
Have always loved the album Emotions by the Pretty Things, which does seem quite neglected in comparison to both the freakbeat that preceded it and the psyched-out proto-prog that followed it. Lots of great tunes, this one's a really nice psychedelic soul pastiche:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaNB2QHhLUM
― space bl00ps (NickB), Thursday, 28 November 2013 09:08 (eleven years ago)
Tripping is a pretty great song from that.
Also, how about The Moon - Without Earth. Was Liberty a major?
― SWM seeks intrinsically and gravely disordered action (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 28 November 2013 09:33 (eleven years ago)
There's loads of good stuff on it! 'Death Of A Socialite' and 'The Sun' sound like something off Forever Changes.
― space bl00ps (NickB), Thursday, 28 November 2013 09:53 (eleven years ago)
first band i thought of when i saw the thread title were The Poets - managed by Andrew Loog Oldham and released singles on Decca and Immediate but never broke though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PM5-zF85LE
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Thursday, 28 November 2013 10:16 (eleven years ago)
Guitars/bass are so great on that!
― timellison, Thursday, 28 November 2013 18:20 (eleven years ago)
how about The Moon - Without Earth. Was Liberty a major?
Oh yeah, that was the group David Marks (from the Beach Boys) was in. Yeah, I mentioned that the garage group the Gants were on Liberty. I think it was a pretty big label.
― timellison, Thursday, 28 November 2013 21:14 (eleven years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU_MI7n8pNc
― ian, Friday, 29 November 2013 18:19 (eleven years ago)
Tavares when they were known as Chubby and the Turnpikes, 1967:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJXqQVJEIZI
― timellison, Thursday, 2 January 2014 22:32 (eleven years ago)
And the other side of the record - talk about a double A-side:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcOObqA_vHQ
― timellison, Saturday, 4 January 2014 01:41 (eleven years ago)
this thread could literally be endless...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCdeTt31bV0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoVWKgwcStEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=968naSqNH98https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljb4F2x1sCkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR29AkGxcJo
― moe handy, Saturday, 4 January 2014 06:56 (eleven years ago)
err... sorry.
Euphoria was major label? That album is great
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 4 January 2014 17:58 (eleven years ago)
Yup, on Capitol, which had arguably the most adventurous A&R dept. in the whole biz from the mid-60s through the early 70s (chasing another Beatles, I guess).
― moe handy, Saturday, 4 January 2014 20:38 (eleven years ago)
I know next to nothing about the band or why that record got made. it is a really strange artifact, really all over the place.
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 6 January 2014 19:31 (eleven years ago)