POLLing and turning, how can I sleep?: The Roxy Music & Bryan Ferry Results Thread

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after what feels like an epic couple of weeks of listening, campaigning, and voting, i'm thrilled to be at the helm to roll out your TOP 40 ROXY MUSIC & BRYAN FERRY tracks.

43 ballots were received in total, 28 of which mentioned album covers. bravo everyone for your contributions, and also for making the ballot thread such a blast!

i hope you enjoy what's in store.

charlie h, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 14:20 (eleven years ago)

let's kick off with our TOP 5 ALBUM COVERS, shall we? then i'll reappear after some rest for tracks 40-30.

charlie h, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 14:22 (eleven years ago)

http://files.myopera.com/rato53/albums/69018/RoxyMusic.JPG

5. Roxy Music
18 points (9 votes)

charlie h, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 14:31 (eleven years ago)

that's a good start

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 14:34 (eleven years ago)

too low

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 February 2014 14:34 (eleven years ago)

TOO LOW

balls, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 14:35 (eleven years ago)

http://www.carteblanche-x.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/roxy-8.jpg

4. Siren
19 points (11 votes)

charlie h, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 14:40 (eleven years ago)

^ that truly is a great one

charlie h, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 14:42 (eleven years ago)

Jerry Hall'ss makeup melted from the heat, reportedly.

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 February 2014 14:44 (eleven years ago)

When I was about 19 I spent a weekend away in Newcastle with a girl. We borrowed her father's flat in Jesmond, which was ground floor with a room in the basement. When I went exploring I found a pile of LPs in that room, prize among which were Dare by the Human League, and Siren. What a aleeve, what a record. That image! That trident!

I spent pretty much the entire weekend holed up alone downstairs with those two, playing the hell out of them.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 14:46 (eleven years ago)

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81eh-NQOAqL._SL1300_.jpg

3. Flesh + Blood
20 points (10 votes)

charlie h, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 14:52 (eleven years ago)

I adore it, but I do get irrationally annoyed that the lowest spear isn't quite parallel with the top two.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 14:55 (eleven years ago)

that's a pretty special way to be introduced to Siren, Ismael.

i have memories of being about five or six years old and being completely infatuated with the cover of Let's Stick Together, which my parents owned on vinyl.

charlie h, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 14:59 (eleven years ago)

xpost Well, her eyes are aiming somewhere else.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 14:59 (eleven years ago)

yeah, i can look past the directions of the arrows, because i tend to follow the gazes when i look at this cover.

charlie h, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 15:03 (eleven years ago)

Siren cover TOO LOW

Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 15:05 (eleven years ago)

http://www.soundstation.dk/images/products/large/85/125685-b.jpg

2. For Your Pleasure
30 points (13 votes)

charlie h, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 15:06 (eleven years ago)

I can't get with this one; too much black, too indistinct. itt: Ismael not reading the signs, though.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 15:09 (eleven years ago)

would have been so much better if the left panel was the front cover

nathey, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 15:12 (eleven years ago)

http://www.carteblanche-x.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/roxy-7.jpg

1. Country Life
33 points (16 votes)

charlie h, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 15:15 (eleven years ago)

Best sleeve ever imo

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 15:16 (eleven years ago)

lol nathey, true, the left panel is amazing!

charlie h, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 15:16 (eleven years ago)

Ismael, it is pretty spectacular, huh. i used to see it record stores before i was a Roxy fan and be in awe of it. for a long time i thought the women were actually lying down.

charlie h, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 15:18 (eleven years ago)

Was fashion photography like that before, or has its last four decades been an extended Country Life tribute?

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 15:20 (eleven years ago)

Um, I think we're missing one

http://musicglue-wordpress-bryan-ferry.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Another-time-another-place4.jpg

Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 15:21 (eleven years ago)

I imagine Helmut Newton might have been an influence. (Manifesto was robbed BTW.)
xp

one way street, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 15:22 (eleven years ago)

sorry about the size of the Flesh + Blood picture by the way (though it does come to life in quite a spectacular way when enhanced to those dimensions).

charlie h, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 15:24 (eleven years ago)

i'm off to sleep now. songs will commence in about 8 hrs.

AT, AP came in seventh place for the record, after Stranded (most raunchy in my opinion) and Avalon.

charlie h, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 15:27 (eleven years ago)

surprised by For Your Pleasure's ranking.

nerve_pylon, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 15:27 (eleven years ago)

this is the one thread where photographs should be as large as possible

Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 15:28 (eleven years ago)

the more i stare at it, the more the left panel really delivers re. FYP

haha, glad to hear Iago

charlie h, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 15:29 (eleven years ago)

Are there Roxy singles sleeves of note? I've never seen one, and in fact it only occurred to me when somebody posted a Thrill Of It All image yesterday.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 15:30 (eleven years ago)

Not this one

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/65/Do_the_Strand_cover.jpg

What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Tuesday, 18 February 2014 15:34 (eleven years ago)

sorry, meant to say just before that Another Time, Another Place came in at 8th place.

haha, yeah that Do the Strand sleeve is an all-round clunker.

charlie h, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 15:37 (eleven years ago)

haha what the hell is Ferry holding there

sleeve, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 15:38 (eleven years ago)

http://www.londonlee.com/chipshop/chippics/rmcover4.jpg

sleepingsignal, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 15:47 (eleven years ago)

wow! is that a 45 sleeve??

sleeve, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 15:50 (eleven years ago)

wow, that's awesome

Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 15:50 (eleven years ago)

Very surprised Avalon didn't make the top five. It was my number one.

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 15:50 (eleven years ago)

xps just an outtake

sleepingsignal, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 15:52 (eleven years ago)

it looks like the photo-shoot from which the cover painting was made

Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 15:53 (eleven years ago)

I have to say I struggled to come up with 3 covers I actually like for this poll. Contrary to perhaps most ppl itt, I don't think Ferry has good taste (or a good eye) at all!

Part of the reason Country Life works is that there wasn't much if any pre-planning for the photo. I do like the For Your Pleasure cover a lot, but largely for the reasons Ismael doesn't. The photo sleepingsignal posted does nothing for me.

Voted for those two and, after much dithering, plumped for Taxi as my #3.

Jeff W, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 16:29 (eleven years ago)

beggars belief that the crappy 'do the strand' cover is same photoshoot (& principle, sort of) as FYP gatefold, a roxy image that always always brightens my day.

woof, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 16:37 (eleven years ago)

some info on the country life cover

sleepingsignal, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 16:46 (eleven years ago)

it's always bugged me that they are wearing identical underwear.

sleepingsignal, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 16:47 (eleven years ago)

^ not actually true. If you look closely, the woman on the right isn't actually wearing a bra.

If it was up to the unions we still have stream trains (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 18 February 2014 16:50 (eleven years ago)

lol. panties then.

sleepingsignal, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 16:52 (eleven years ago)

^ how you should start every meeting

balls, Tuesday, 18 February 2014 17:03 (eleven years ago)

Very surprised Avalon didn't make the top five. It was my number one.
--Kitchen Person

Mine too. I expected Country Life to take it but IMO Avalon is their best. So moody and evocative, even with tongue in cheek.

resulting post (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 18 February 2014 17:28 (eleven years ago)

thankin u for that. seeing him in a week and now even more stoked.

resulting post (rogermexico.), Sunday, 6 April 2014 14:22 (eleven years ago)

two years pass...

Not sure where to put this. Article on EG founder David Enthoven's funeral had this great passage on the Roxy/Crimson nexus:

The congregation included Robert Fripp, the founder the founder of King Crimson, and all five surviving members of Roxy Music from the sessions for the band’s debut album in the summer of 1972: Brian Eno, Bryan Ferry, Andy Mackay, Phil Manzanera and Paul Thompson, who came down for the funeral from Newcastle, where he now plays the drums with Lindisfarne.

One of the morning’s pleasures, over which the man in whose memory we were gathered would certainly have shared a chuckle, was the sight of Fripp, Eno and Ferry (so much history there, from Ferry’s failed audition for King Crimson to Fripp and Eno’s collaboration on No Pussyfooting and beyond) joining the singing of “All Things Bright and Beautiful”. You don’t get that every day.


https://thebluemoment.com/2016/08/24/david-enthoven-the-last-goodbye/

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 26 August 2016 11:44 (nine years ago)

eight months pass...

Peter Buck and Corin Tucker's new project just dropped a fun, faithful cover of "Editions of You." Corin's Ferry-isms are really entertaining. (starts at 3:17 mark)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkI1SsQ0Up8

passionate plant-based athlete (voodoo chili), Thursday, 27 April 2017 15:53 (eight years ago)

four years pass...

Even the gods become mortal on occasion.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 November 2021 17:55 (three years ago)

I like "Trash". But I might like any song with the word trash in it.

the plant based god (bendy), Monday, 8 November 2021 18:04 (three years ago)

Suede's "Trash."

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 November 2021 18:04 (three years ago)

There are worse songs than "My Only Love" on Flesh and Blood.

Kim Kimberly, Monday, 8 November 2021 18:20 (three years ago)

I almost threw "Rain Rain Rain" on there

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 November 2021 18:25 (three years ago)

Not many tho

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 9 November 2021 00:25 (three years ago)

X post, referring to My Only Love.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 9 November 2021 00:25 (three years ago)

you people are nuts - manzanera’s work on “my only love” is sublime

poster of sparks (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 9 November 2021 03:17 (three years ago)

The problem isn’t Phil, it’s that his solo comes in after I’ve nodded off four times and taken two trips to the loo. The song is interminable.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 9 November 2021 03:32 (three years ago)

I love the wounded romantic Rodgers and Hart-isms of "One Kiss."

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 9 November 2021 14:47 (three years ago)

Here's my least-loved Ferry tracks, in chronological order starting from the 80s. The 70s records, while not always great, are attractive enough for their sound alone to rank higher than these:

"Jealous Guy"
"The Chosen One"
"Seven Deadly Sins"
"The Name of the Game"
"Don't Want To Know"
"Wildcat Days"
"Make You Feel My Love"
"All Along the Watchtower"
"Driving Me Wild"
"Send In the Clowns"

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 9 November 2021 15:29 (three years ago)

I adore "The Name of the Game," basically his "Live to Tell."

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 November 2021 15:32 (three years ago)

The moment where he lowers his voice for the second verse, "Out in the cold/in the wilderness again/Where I fight for my soul/I can see no end" never fails.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 November 2021 15:33 (three years ago)

To me it's a faceless lighter-waver. I like "My Only Love", though! And "NYC" gets a pass on account of including the word "topiary" in the lyrics.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 9 November 2021 15:57 (three years ago)

That's a rather subdued, echo-y song to wave a lighter to!

heh I said the same thing about "NYC."

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 November 2021 15:59 (three years ago)

Given its prominence on the reunion tours, I think at least one of Ferry/Mackay/Manzanera, if not all three, have a fondness for “My Only Love”

Master of Treacle, Tuesday, 9 November 2021 16:04 (three years ago)

The verses of "Name of the Game" are OK, the choruses are where the bombast comes in.
Actually I like the little piano melody in the bridge, maybe it's not so bad. Substitute "No Strange Delight" or "Over You".

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 9 November 2021 16:04 (three years ago)

Me too -- it's the part that most reminds me of "Live to Tell."

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 November 2021 16:17 (three years ago)

I'll take "Day for Night" as my Ferry-does-Madonna pick.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 9 November 2021 16:21 (three years ago)

I love it. Another solid keyboard break too. Maybe a minute too long in the last third.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 November 2021 16:23 (three years ago)

one year passes...

Ferry published Lyrics last year. Even before reading it, I was touched to see that the book title is written in the same font as he used on the cover of the first Roxy Music album; he hasn't forgotten or abandoned his roots!

Some thoughts after reading it cover-to-cover:
- the switch from highly-specific, referent-thick words to elusive, vague ones (starting around Flesh and Blood) is less dramatic than I thought; certainly the density of the words thins out, but there's still striking imagery that gets lost in the swirl of the music
- the later lyrics almost all adhere to very precise rhythmic phrasings and scan as if words have been dropped in to fit the metre
- most of the lyrics to the Mamouna album are straight-up automatic-Ferry word-spew garbage, definitely his worst set; Avonmore is just dull by comparison
- for a writer who's regarded as specializing in glamour, urbanity and events taking place indoors, he uses a whole lot of nature imagery, some of it quite startling; not all of it can be explained away as a writer who is just trying to stick to archetypes

I noticed only a couple of typos in the text (one of the German lines in "Bitter Sweet" is omitted). They misspell Ferry's name on the publishing credits page though.

As far as I could tell, these are the only original lyrics (from released songs) omitted from the book:

As the World Turns (b-side of "This is Tomorrow")
Four Letter Love (b-side of "Sign of the Times")
Going Strong (recorded by Roger Daltrey in 1984)
Help Me (from The Fly; lyrics might be written by Nile Rodgers)
Is Your Love Strong Enough (from Legend)
The Way You Do (recorded by Frida in 1982)

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 14 January 2023 18:37 (two years ago)

The book also underlines how his productivity as a writer declined after 1987:

Mamouna: 7 years in the making, 10 sets of lyrics
Frantic: 8 years, 7 lyrics
Olympia: 8 years, 8 lyrics
Avonmore: 4 years, 8 lyrics - but apparently nothing in the 9 years since

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 14 January 2023 19:08 (two years ago)

Mamouna doesn't have any more spewage than Bete Noir or B+G

But, yeah, I don't get the point of owning lyrics. Are you supposed to study them like Donne or something?

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 14 January 2023 23:49 (two years ago)

You are supposed to descant aloud in melancholic fashion while pondering the sunset standing by your swimming pool. (Book in one hand, drink in the other.)

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 15 January 2023 00:55 (two years ago)

Even THAT defeats me.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 15 January 2023 01:02 (two years ago)

I don't get the point of owning lyrics.

It's for times like this, when you'd sit at home and reminisce!

Mamouna doesn't have any more spewage than Bete Noir or B+G

But he'd lost or abandoned any attempt to make the individual lyrics coherent, either intellectually or emotionally, in stuff like "39 Steps", "Gemini Moon", "Don't Want to Know".

The most charming pretension of the book is an index of first lines; second most charming pretension is a string attached to the binding to use as a bookmark.

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 15 January 2023 23:28 (two years ago)

The most elegantly sexy lyric collection to have on your coffee table.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 15 January 2023 23:59 (two years ago)

I quite disagree about "The 39 Steps." I like how the verse can go either existential ("Where do we go from here?") or practical ("Your place or mine?"). There's also that neat chord change for the middle eight.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 January 2023 00:04 (two years ago)

eight months pass...

Happy birthday, old boy!

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 September 2023 16:41 (one year ago)

five months pass...

Phil Manzanera has already told the story about Jay-Z and that schmuck who shall remain nameless sampling the title track to Manzanera's 1978 solo LP K-Scope. In 2015, he said he hadn't been paid yet but was owed "six figures plus, which is more than I've made in the past 15 years with Roxy."

Either he was misheard or that number kept on growing because in his upcoming memoir, he says it ended up making him more money than everything he made from his entire 50+ years with Roxy Music.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 06:11 (one year ago)

Did he get paid?

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 15:03 (one year ago)

I think so. I only read the excerpt that was published in a newspaper, but that seemed to be the implication.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 17:57 (one year ago)

He actually uploaded a snapshot of the article.

IG upload has better resolution when you zoom in.

He must've been paid, he's so effusive with gratitude and it's been so long by this point. Worth reading, there's more amusing details to the story.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 18:01 (one year ago)

I didn't expect him to disclose the figure but I'd love to know it anyway.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 18:09 (one year ago)

great article. i've seen 88 keys in plenty of kanye production credits but didn't realize that his main role was to source samples from vinyl released between 1975-1979. fun job!

the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 18:18 (one year ago)

Roxy Music are one of my top 5 all-time bands but I don't think I've ever read any books about them... what is there that is worth reading? iirc there isn't any all-encompassing biography?

Kim Kimberly, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 18:43 (one year ago)

Not much. David Buckley's 2005 The Thrill of It All: The Story of Bryan Ferry & Roxy Music, solid of its kind, is worth reading.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 18:45 (one year ago)

That the three principals rank among the most reticent members of any seminal band doesn't help matters.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 18:45 (one year ago)

I ask because it seems notable that Manzanera is putting out a book.

Kim Kimberly, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 18:53 (one year ago)

Michael Bracewell's Re-make, re-model : becoming Roxy Music is a fascinating pre-history of the band, but it literally ends in 1972. I enjoyed it but not everyone wants to read 10 pages about Ferry's hairdresser or his job as a tailor's assistant.

the three principals rank among the most reticent members of any seminal band

Manzanera participated in the recent 33 1/3 book about Avalon, but don't remember any particularly striking details.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 18:56 (one year ago)

Maybe he saved them for his own book!

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 18:56 (one year ago)

...lots of eagerly anticipated gossip about James Wraith.

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 18:58 (one year ago)

There's a terrible one published in the late '90s or so that I read about 20 years ago; it's suffused with ponderousness. I can't remember the title.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 19:03 (one year ago)

Ah! It's Unknown Pleasures: A Cultural Biography of Roxy Music . Must to avoid.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 19:04 (one year ago)

I think I have that one, but never finished it.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 19:07 (one year ago)

"Unknown Pleasures?" Wow.

sawdust lagoon, Tuesday, 19 March 2024 19:09 (one year ago)

That Bracewell book is a best-ever rock book IMO

Kraal Disorientation Chamber (emsworth), Tuesday, 19 March 2024 19:47 (one year ago)


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