Red Hot Chili Peppers - One Hot Minute POLL

Haven't heard this in eons, but I seem to remember some exquisite guitar/bass interplay on "Transcending" that's really on a different plane than the rest of the album.

Decided to poll this because 'Shallow Be Thy Game' came up on shuffle and found myself thinking "actually, this track isn't too bad"!

yeah the last time i heard this dave navarro was still a member of the band. it occurs to me also that this is the last rhcp album i've heard the entirety of though i don't doubt they've bettered it since. i do not remember 'coffee shop', that's pretty nineties. only tracks i really remember are the singles, only one of those i cared for really was 'aeroplane'. lotta aeroplane action in the 90s.

I heard this, most of it at a friends house. I remember liking "Aeroplane" a lot, but thinking that the first single "Warped" was extremely boring (sans the really dope outro).

I remember Navarro REALLY didn't like this album. He got interviewed by Guitar magazine while recording the follow-up to this album (obv he didn't finish that, hah) and when asked what the main diff between that album and OHM was, he said "this one might actually be good".

I always thought he was a weird fit because he had been quoted in an interview as saying he hated funk music, and even though RHCP had kind of branched out beyond just funk by that point, I never really felt like he was going to be happy in RHCP.

Strange comment to make, as there are quite a few tracks on the two big JA albums as intentionally funky as any Chilis number

Idiots Rule, No One Leaving etc

Honestly he came across as kinda douchey in the interviews.

have a very hard time picturing dave navarro coming off douchey

I just remember the focal point of every vid on this album seemed to be Navarro's nips as much as kiedis' chest.

only one of those i cared for really was 'aeroplane'. lotta aeroplane action in the 90s.

and how! This was, like, #1 recurrent on my college station through summer '96, more than "My Friends."

I don't follow this band's lore, but I remember quite a few complimentary reviews for an album that's been, what, effaced from their history?

yeah it got positive reviews but nothing over the top (it wasn't like say the first foo fighters album where looking back you're just like 'holy shit, the fuck were ppl thinking???'), and looking at tour dates they didn't really promote it much. i still very occasionally hear 'my friends' but that's pretty much it from the navarro era ('love rollercoaster' was probably the biggest hit at the time on afn, but i haven't heard it since it was current). they toured an insane amount for californication though. something i didn't know until now: jesse tobias, the kid who was in rhcp for...one hot minute before getting fired and replaced w/ navarro, ended up playing guitar on jagged little pill which obv also featured flea and whoever the drummer for rhcp is (ie rhcp weak link #2).

Didn't Tobias end up being Morrissey's comeback-era right hand man too?

yes

Are you sure Jesse Tobias was on Jagged Little Pill? I know that Chad Smith wasn't, but Flea and Dave Navarro were (but only on one track: 'You Oughta Know')

It's well-known that the band didn't find it as easy to make music with Navarro as they did with Frusciante or Hillel Slovak, but what possibly hurt this album more in terms of touring/promotion was the fact that Kiedis had relapsed around the time the album was being made.

lol i was wrong! he played on the jagged little pill tour

i remember the first time i heard 'you oughta know' and i was like 'man, who is killing it on bass on this thing?' and it turned out it was flea and i was all 'i oughta known'.

On the surface it seems that the RHCP getting Navarro was a no brainer fit, but it didn't really work out at all. I seem to recall Flea or Chad Smith saying in an interview that the band could never get Navarro to come over and play. Navarro I guess was kind of disinterested the whole time he played with them, didn't really want to work and jam, which from what I have gathered is really how that band has done most of it's writing over the years.

I wish "Warped Outro" was an option (really -- what a weird choice for a first single. They should've just gone straight to "Under the Bridge 2" aka "My Friends"). Nonetheless, voted "Aeroplane." I believe it's Flea's daughter's grade school class that chimes in at the end.

Strange comment to make, as there are quite a few tracks on the two big JA albums as intentionally funky as any Chilis number

Idiots Rule, No One Leaving etc

― Master of Treacle, Sunday, March 30, 2014 9:14 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Feel like Perry and Stephen Perkins were the funk nexis of Jane's Addiction. Eric Avery and Perry brought the gothy tinge. And Dave was basically metal guy.

Last few songs on this are alright, Transcending is quite good. I remember liking Walkabout as a teen, pretty corny now. My Friends is cool when it builds up. Aeroplane was a fun single at the time.

Listened to this quite recently, actually. The lyrics are dreadful, but there are some nice Navarro moments.

Xpost would agree with the Avery/Perkins thing, although notable in comparison due to Perkins use of toms and Avery almost always using a pick

Think Flea used a pick all the time for the 97 reunion, but obviously theyre p. different

Didn't Flea at one point make a conscious decision to stop playing slap bass because he was tired of being known as "the slap bass guy"? I think I remember that happening, but then I saw him with Atoms of Peace on The Daily Show a couple months ago and he was a slappin' and poppin'.

Think Navarros fave band at the time was Joy Division, and stated at the time he was most proud of 'Then She Did' in terms of his playing

Ricky Bobby6 days ago

Slovak: The funk is too much. RIP
Frusciante: Can't get too much funk.
Navarro: What is this funk?
Frusicante (resurrected): Let me show you where funk and god meet.
Klinghoffer: Hey guys can I play some funk?

Listened to this quite recently, actually. The lyrics are dreadful, but there are some nice Navarro moments.

― Alex in NYC, Monday, March 31, 2014 7:22 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

According to Kiedis' book, during one of the rare moments that he isn't talking about his smack addiction or entertaining some chick, Flea actually wrote quite a lot of lyrics and vocal melodies on this record because Kiedis himself was being strung out and absent. The lyrics that Kiedis did write quite blatantly refer to this then-recent relapse. I can't say it's a brilliant album lyrically, but it's definitely a much darker album than what came before, and I guess that threw a lot of people off. It's probably their darkest record overall, actually.

"My Friends" is the best here but I'm going for "Pea" because LOL.

This is pretty much the only RHCP album I really like. Might vote Airplane?

People used to love the "fuck you, asshole" bit in Pea at my school.

Do you think dudes like Kiedis and Iggy have, like, one t-shirt, in a drawer somewhere, for special occasions?

I remember there was an entire MTV News segment about what a big deal it was that Flea sang lead on an RHCP album cut

"Pea" is cripplingly embarrassing.

As opposed to the dignified grace of Anthony Keidis's vocal performances

Fair point.

I remember that MTV news report. Seemed groundbreaking at the time!

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I like pleasure spiked with pain

the tour for/fallout from this album sounds insane, I wish a documentary crew filmed it:

The One Hot Minute tour began several days after the release of the album. The band opened the tour with a European leg. Kiedis felt that as a musician, he was becoming somewhat lackluster.[45] The short European leg ended in early November, and the U.S. portion was scheduled to begin 10 days later; however, it was postponed until early February.[45] A few shows into the commencement of the U.S. leg, Kiedis badly injured his leg while engaging in what he calls "eyes-closed robotic dancing". He tripped over a monitor and fell off the stage, ending up hanging by his calf from his microphone cable, resulting in a cast which he wore for the next two months.[45] Kiedis reflected that it "was nice to see that people were still interested in coming out to see what we do", as there had been a four-year gap since the release of Blood Sugar Sex Magik. Following the conclusion of the U.S. tour, the Chili Peppers took two weeks off before several Australia and New Zealand performances. The band then played at the Tibetan Freedom Concert in San Francisco, before finishing the tour in Europe.[45]

Kiedis had remained sober the entire tour and maintained positive disposition during shows. Navarro, however, was growing tired of touring, and that was beginning to grate on his fellow band-mates.[45] Kiedis suffered an additional injury in Prague after falling off the stage while attempting to execute a back flip. He was forced to wear a back brace for the next few shows, which restricted his actions to the area around his microphone. After shows in Paris and London, the band returned home to Los Angeles. Kiedis began taking drugs once again, though he forced himself to discontinue after several weeks.[45] The band was then asked to play in the North Pole for roughly 100 contest winners of a concert set up by Molson, a Canadian beer company. While the show was mildly motivating to the band, they returned home after two days.[46]

Months went by without any scheduled concerts due to the album's poor sales.[47] Following another relapse and a stint in rehab, Kiedis and the rest of the band prepared for a summer tour, their first in almost seven months. Before the tour could begin, Kiedis had an accident on his motorcycle and was rushed to the hospital after severely injuring his hand. Due to his drug addiction, it took seven doses of morphine before the pain was assuaged. Following discharge from the hospital, he was forced to wear a full-arm cast for several months, resulting in the cancellation of all remaining scheduled concerts. Halfway through Kiedis's recovery, the band was asked to play the Fuji Rock Festival in July 1997. By that time, Kiedis's cast had receded down to the elbow and he felt well enough to play.[48] A large typhoon had been forecast to hit the festival several hours before the show. The concert took place anyway, and when the Chili Peppers got on stage to play, the audience was being soaked in torrential rains, and the band found it virtually impossible to play their instruments. After eight songs, the lighting and sound equipment was torn from the stage and the band was obliged to an impromptu finish.[10][49]

Returning home, the Chili Peppers parted ways and, for the most part, remained secluded from each other through the rest of 1997. No new material was written during that time, and it was not until the beginning of 1998 that the band began rehearsal.[49] At that point, Navarro had become dependent on drugs, with Kiedis also struggling to remain clean. The band decided they would have a talk with Navarro and attempt to convince him to enter rehab. The discussion escalated into a heated dispute, and Navarro fell over an amplifier in a drug-induced daze. In April 2010, Navarro discussed this incident, stating that: "One [of the reasons I was fired] was [because of] my drug use at the time. The other was musical differences. Anthony says it was because I tripped and fell over an amp while on drugs. I say that he was on more drugs than me at that point. We both had a loose relationship with reality. Who do you want to believe?"[50]

The band made an attempt to begin writing for a follow-up and had written and began recording one song titled "Circle of the Noose" but the song was never completed or released and likely never will be. The song, which is the last to feature guitar work from Navarro prior to his departure, was a tribute to the late qawwali-devotional singer Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan. Navarro described the song as totally pop, dirge-like and said the song was one of the favorite songs he had done with the band. He said "The best way I can describe it is it's like pepped- up '60s folk with '90s ideals, but I would hate to label it as folk because it's not, it moves." On June 7, 2011, Navarro was asked by a Chili Peppers fan on his blog about "Circle of the Noose" and said he didn't have the recordings but would love to hear them.[51] Flea was also asked in 2011 through his Twitter page about the song and was shocked that anyone knew about it. He responded by saying "Holy cow! how in the hell do you know about that? It had a sample of nusrat fateh Ali khan in it...never was finished". At this point in 1998, Kiedis and Flea decided it was time to fire their guitarist. Navarro was furious when confronted by Kiedis and Flea, but eventually accepted his termination.[10][52] The Chili Peppers were fighting, and on the verge of breaking up. Flea was beginning to question the band's future and thought it may be necessary to break the band up.[52] He made one last attempt to keep the band together, asking Frusciante to rejoin. Frusciante had recently completed a drug rehabilitation program after more than five years of heroin addiction, and gladly accepted the invitation.[10]

"Pea" is the only song from One Hot Minute that the Red Hot Chili Peppers have played in full since Dave Navarro left the band. Since Josh Klinghoffer joined they have teased "My Friends", "Let's Make Evil" and "Walkabout". Chad Smith was asked by fans during a February 2014 online interview about the band's reasons behind not performing the songs and he responded by saying "We don't really feel that connected to that record anymore. No special reason, not to say we would never play those songs but we don't feel that emotionally connected to that music right now."[53]

Anthony Kiedis, pictured in 1996

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wow that's amazing. holy shit. it's weird when bands ignore whole albums and play nothing from live them ever again. it's not too common, although i'm sure we've had a thread about it. Blur and The Great Escape also springs to mind. REM and Fables i guess too.. to a degree at least.

I think R.E.M. warmed up to Fables of the Reconstruction eventually, I seem to remember certain Fables songs creeping into their setlists towards the end of the band: 'Maps and Legends', definitely. I think 'Driver 8' was played quite often too? I think Blur have played 'Country House' since the four-piece line-up reformed at least.

It seems that the whole "bands ignoring whole albums" thing gets a little bit more common once they reach a certain stage of their career, though... when a band reaches a certain point in their career, I often find that the setlists tend to focus on a mixture of the new album and the big live songs/greatest hits/songs they have to play because the audience expects them. If a new album fails to yield a big hit or a song that becomes a live favourite late in their career, I usually find that the album is passed over on subsequent tours, unless they pull something out of those albums to put in the set as the token "surprise" inclusion/"wasn't expecting them to play that" moment.

Just as one example, look at Depeche Mode: 'Precious' has made it into the live sets post-Playing The Angel because it was a big hit/became a late career live favourite, but it's hard to imagine that they'll ever dig out anything from Sounds of the Universe to perform live ever again - 'Wrong' being a possible exception.

i like pleasure spiked with pain

that muthaFUCKa's always spiked with paaain

It's probably easier to say what I don't like about this record, rather than what I do like: I've never been fond of 'Walkabout' or 'Falling Into Grace', but I like-to-love the rest.

Kiedis felt that as a musician, he was becoming somewhat lackluster.[45]

for some reason i am obsessed with this album now. would’ve voted for the title track, their biggest gesture toward stoner metal

best chad smith performance on record (runner up: mothers milk)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6rMSGgXNB0

justice for the o.g. "my friends" video

I wish "Warped Outro" was an option

much as i love the whole album at this point this is still kinda otm, stunning moment

one big mob is...

this rapidly became my favorite rhcp record and one of my favorite albums of all time lol

when my parents finally looked the other way on whether i was allowed to watch mtv, it coinciding with "warped" and the original "my friends" videos appearing in the rotation and i truly had not seen anything like them before. men... wearing dresses? men.... kissing???? and dancing around like boneless creatures? i really wanted the album but held off for some reason, i only had so much allowance to spend on records and it was probably between this and mellon collie

i eventually did hear it, around the time by the way came out, and it was difficult to not hear it as a messy and strange fork in the road, especially against what they were doing with frusciante at that moment. now i hear it as a very bad trip, but in a good way, constantly slipping into dark and scary pockets, and whenever it seems joyful it's in this lightheaded and hollowed-out way cf. "aeroplane"

So much of ILX seems to have collectively snapped over the past few hours that you having a conversation with yourself about the awesomeness of this dollar-bin staple is downright soothing. Sorry to interrupt, please continue.

Best Chili Peppers album imo

I just wish their albums weren't all an hour long.

this one feels shorter than californication even though that's objectively not true

This album is awful. Your comment about its length made me chuckle. The last time I tried listening to it I felt like it had been on for about 45 minutes when I was only on "Coffee Shop." Glad that you like it Brad. But . . . wow, what a boring, overwrought slog.

(Just looked on Spotify and there's a "deluxe edition" that makes the album 78 minutes long. No thank you.)

so horrible

this is probably the thread to say, for whoever cares, that I thought "Fly Away" by Lenny Kravitz was an RHCP song for a VERY long time

lol

coffee shop more like coffee bop

pleasure spiked with pain

i am ready to proclaim this the best rock album of the '90s and to be struck by tomatoes and rotten vegetables as i do it

I listened to it, BSSM, MM, BTW and the new one after you effused about 'em all variously a few weeks ago, and I'll go as far as saying that I am no longer as dismissive as I had been since '92…

That's funny. I had the opposite reaction upon following along with Brad's revisit: I have always given these guys way too much of my time.

But, good on you Brad. Music is to be enjoyed.

I imagine the best rock album of the 90s is long lost by now.