Pollsces Iscariot: Smashing Pumpkins b-sides comp turns 20 this fall, better than most records released same year

whir yourself around

slit my wrists and die your whore
love to love to love what you adore
i can give you anything but please let me
be your everything, too
(june)

Actually I agree completely. My fave Pumpkins + my fave from 94

Torn between F&B, Starla, & Obscured

Gotta go with "Starla." We should prob have a big SP ballot poll at some point.

Agree 100%. A great album on par with Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie. Highlights: Frail & Bedazzled, Obscured, Landslide, Whir, Starla. Heck, the whole thing is awesome.

Will go with Obscured because I've voted Landslide on other polls.

Yeah, this is such a great record. I love so many of these songs. Today I'm feeling like "Starla" is the right choice.

Obscured is my favorite.

I really like the concise melodic riff-rockers on this: "Frail and Bedazzled", "Plume", "Pissant", "Hello Kitty Kat". This is probably "Frail and Bedazzled". Love those guitar tones.

The chorus of HKK is infectious though.

Starla seemed like the most epic thing to me when I first heard it, feel like they never bettered it.

I've wasted all my years, been chasin' all my fears
vs.
my boredom has outshined the sun

'Frail & Bedazzled'.

First time I ever heard "Landslide."

Whir, Hello Kitty Kat, Obscured, or Starla. I really like "plume" a lot too.

have a soft spot for the beatleisms on the james iha track

Love the wind/jet (?) noise in Pissant.

First time I ever heard "Landslide."

Me too. I was 13 at the time.

What the hell was wrong with me, "my boredom has outshined the sun" was my senior quote in HS

great album though.

I've wasted all my years, been chasin' all my fears
vs.
my boredom has outshined the sun

vs "I just want to have some little fun"

my boredom has outshined the sun is essential corgan

kinda wish i'd voted for Plume now.

Hello Kitty Kat. That opening drum fill always makes me wonder "Did I just play the Spin Doctors?" and then it's WHAM!

I also love the bit starting @3:50

Oh yeah, I like that guitar outro a lot too. I think that's the way I'm voting.

That ending solo actually reminds me of 70s Aerosmith in a weird way.

oh man, i love that part so much.

Frail and Bedazzled and Hello Kitty Kat are definitive 90s guitar jams for me

From Frail and Bedazzled to Pissant its just a really cool varied well-sequenced rock record, and then HKK into Obscured into Landslide into Starla is just next level...

70s Aerosmith also had a song called "Spaced" iirc

(tho tbh I might vote Spaced cuz its a cool ending and I want it to get a vote)

Lol xp

I had a favorite purple t-shirt with the Starla lyrics on the back, purchased at the Rehoboth Beach, Delaware boardwalk. Still have it, actually. And Plume was one of the first songs I ever learned to play on guitar. I learned guitar playing butchered, totally wrong versions of early Pumpkins songs.

But Pissant's opening -

Got me a ray gun / got me an altitude / can't help thinking something's wrong with EVERY ONE OF YOU

And then!

Come on honey / Let's go for a ride / Down where the crickets learn to sing and play / bay - bee

When it explodes back in!!!

Like Incesticide, this works as an album as much as it does as a compilation. I like the way each side opens with a solo acoustic song.

no love for Soothe yet? nice little sad song

It's what I voted for. Love the liner notes about it being recorded in a motel or something

And I think you can hear cars go by outside if you listen real close.

Man, those were some intense liner notes. Single-spaced block typewriter sheets.

It's a bus! (as per the liner notes)

This comp was what cemented my full-blown Pumpkins obsession that started in 1994 and didn't really let up until the break-up in 2000.

it's in his apartment too, at 7am, while his acid munching roommate Hippy Bob slept in the next room

Voting 'Whir' over 'Obscured' and 'Blew Away' but there's so much good stuff here. Can't be doing with the Fleetwood Mac cover though.

I knew it before the Mac version and always loved it.

Yeah, Mac and BOC were the first classic rock bands not featured in SPIN's big orange book that I kinda came back around on, and Landslide was a big part of that process for the former

I also heard the Pumpkins' cover of "Never Let Me Down" ("Rocket" single b-side) before the Depeche Mode version. Like DM's (slightly) more, though.

Obscured vs Whir for me and I can't choose between them. Ok, Obscured.

kinda surprised this hasn't been polled yet. this record probably receives more ILM love than anywhere else in the world combined.

okay i just noticed it's been open since april.

Gish hasn't been polled though.

I think it doesn't even have a thread of its own and it's my favorite SP album.

hmmm... somehow i was able to vote twice...?

this was the album my friends used to say they would play whenever they had a girl over.

since I had another chance to vote I voted for Whir.

it's still early, the sun is sleeping

Such a great album. Definitely my fave but closely followed by Siamese Dream.

I don't know if the time frame even works out, but whenever I pull this album out I always wish that "Drown" from the Singles soundtrack was on here.

Drown is from '92, Pisces is from '94 iirc. So theoretically they could have put it on here, same with the wonderful Glynis.

Haven't a clue what to vote here, love this album so much.

"Plume" is really, really excellent, great lyrics "My boredom has outshined the sun"

Man, not sure what to vote here, but Frail and Bedazzled is such a perfect fucking song

both (sorta) have their own threads

smashing pumpkins -- pisces iscariot: classic or dud?
Taking Sides: APPETITE FOR DESTRUCTION vs. GISH by Smashing Pumpkins

I can't find it but I remember reading somewhere that Drown had been around since the Gish sessions but the band (well, Corgan) didn't really feel like it fitted with the other songs in this record so they shelved it for a b-side.

So, the story goes that the song was originally supposed to be released as the b-side for Rhinoceros (they ended up using album cut, Siva, instead) but the Singles film got in the way. The film is pretty much a promotional tool for the grunge scene, so someone on the label thought Drown was too good of as song to be wasted on a b-side (which actually is) and decided to waste it to promote the band on the soundtrack instead. I assume the movie wasn't really memorable because asides from the soundtrack noone ever recommends it, but the soundtrack itself was a best-seller at the time so, good job, label guy.

Some of my factoids might be incorrect but that's pretty much the gist of it. The wikipedia article doesn't have any info on this and I can't find the interview/article where I read it.

TLDR: Drown could be considered a Gish cut, not a Siamese Dream one.

iirc "starla" is also gish era

Yes, both are Gish-era, but both were written after Gish was recorded, so it wasn't in consideration for the record. Definitely both feel very much in between Gish and Siamese, they're the bridge between the two. The production on both is more Siamese, but Corgan's singing and his solo wankery are way more Gish.

but both were written after Gish was recorded

ah this is what i suspected

The 8 minute version (with extra solo wankery!) was included on the 2011 Deluxe edition of Gish so I'm gonna count it as a Gish song rather than a Siamese one.

But yes, you're right it sounds like a bridge between both albums and that's why it's excellent. It kind of has the best from both worlds, some of Gish's amazing texture and dynamics but more of the 'alt-rockness' and production of Siamese Dream.

A Girl Named Sandoz

Went for the cover, although half a dozen of these are keepers. The song forces him to be not so weedy with the vocals and I enjoy that novelty.

There are almost no bad songs on this album. Voted Obscured. But why wasn't Drown on this????? My faves:

Soothe
Frail & Bedazzled
Whir
Blew Away
Obscured
Landslide
Starla
Blue
La Dolly Vita

First time I ever heard "Landslide."

have a soft spot for the beatleisms on the james iha track

Ditto on both of these.

posting this here because it would be ridiculous to bump yet another Pumpkins thread:

http://www.smashingpumpkinsnexus.com/#!WINNER-ANNOUNCED-IN-RAVINIA-DREAM-SETLIST-CONTEST/c7ba/84A24CA9-D893-495F-902A-1BC4D1AFD6FA

My 2nd vote was for HKK

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they should've just released this as the proper follow-up to siamese dream, it's basically just as good, and the whole 'no promotion, it's an odds and sods thing' devalues it

hey, they got to have their cake and eat it too. album went platinum, got their highest chart position at the time and had a huge radio hit.

o wow nice nvm

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otm, but give plume a few more points

How did Spaced get a vote above Blue?

blue is very overlooked

ilm's ongoing love affair with bongos