ils menswear and men's clothing part 2: 2023 until we all need stillsuits

amen brother, & the mock turt maker better send me an email saying "happy trails" after it's delivered to me.

It's the only type of shirt that is also a type of soup

As far as I know

Red wing and Nintendo have teamed up to bring Super Mario’s Shoes To Life (2023) pic.twitter.com/0yqFdXnpqf

— Outlander Magazine (@StreetFashion01) March 10, 2023

lmao

cant wait to stomp on all my enemies

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/09/australia/australia-william-leslie-arnold-cold-case-intl-hnk-dst/index.html

wow chambray double needle workshirt, such authentic, is it selvedge, where can i cop?

‘Well, he was an orphan. He didn’t lie about that, but he killed his parents, that’s why he was an orphan.’

👌

who's looking snazzy for summer

https://img.staticdj.com/0db3f52ccc134a79e32104a267bc5f39_1080x.jpeg

for real though i got this filson mechanic shirt and i can't wait to cosplay rough trade at the club

https://filson-canto.imgix.net/3qrso6g9vh57785bqmdpdcil37/gs6KD7w7k41qERPg97FERgdWi3Y/original?h=2000&w=2000&bg=ffffff&q=80&auto=format,compress&fit=fillmax

stussy has done many iterations on this workwear classic

besides the fact that i've never quite been able to pull off hickory stripe, i also have a morbid fear of catching my chest hair when adjusting the zip

i could not make it work personally but it's a cool style of shirt

my summer look is “aging crustpunk” or “hippie preppy”

The one with the half zip is odd but it is at least comprehensible as clothing for a male adult human in the western hemisphere.

I don't really understand the blue shirt above it with what I guess is a keyhole neckline?

Not my personal thing, but if that is something you wish to wear, go ahead; rock on with your bad selves.

I do not know what crust is so I'm prolly gonna keep dressing like my father, my stepfather, and almost every male person I ever knew who has a PhD in the humanities and a drinking problem. Our collective aesthetic is "louche English professor" and mostly it is working out for us.

We wear tweed nine months out of the year and linen for three months, and we do okay.

god bless

i'm also on the lookout for the douchiest sport sunglasses imaginable, i think it might have to be these oakleys

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for the record, the blue shirt was a joke

i used to sling secondhand & vintage clothing as a side hustle and have the kind of eclectic wardrobe that goes with the territory.

my favorite stuff has tended to be postwar era- not too military, not too rockabilly, more outdoor and phys ed apparel. it's blockish and severe and looks good with my buzz cut.

i've gained a lot of weight in the last few years, though. i resisted buying any new clothes, instead i've tried to squeeze into anything i had that was oversized or less fitted. but it's got to the point where that's no longer an option.

so the first thing i noticed is that used clothes cost as much as new clothes now. not just coveted vintage pieces, i mean absolutely everything. wtf?? i guess i'm glad more people are buying secondhand shit but this is crazy.

i'm not going to buy fast fashion bullshit that falls apart in 3 months and ends up in a landfill. i'm not going invest in heirloom pieces because of my fluctuating weight (i was S/P and could fit into youth sizes, now i'm a true M/L) and also i'm living with uncertainties about my health. and i'm def not paying what ridiculous vintage repro brands charge for basics, holy shit.

digging around the online secondhand market a bit, it's really hard to find anything that justifies the price. Billy Reid stuff is about the best value, with a lot of pieces made in Italy under $30. i'm also seeing some deals for Steven Alan, though the quality and price point is much more variable there. this kind of stuff is a little more "normal guy" than what i usually go for, but i like it well enough i guess. the guys i see on the subway who dress like that always look like they have their ducks in a row. the problem is that as it's sort of blandish no individual piece inspires me to pull the trigger.

i'm through with buying clothes, forever. fashion is the biggest racket going, better drop those pounds fast i guess.

Not my personal thing, but if that is something you wish to wear, go ahead; rock on with your bad selves.

fixed

gah

Not my personal thing, but if that is something you wish to wear, go ahead; rock on with your bad selves.

:D

i doubt this is up your alley because it's very military but i need to evangelize about soffe silkies (or "ranger panties") for a second. if there was a god in heaven more men with nice legs would wear them. they're incredibly short. they're also incredibly comfortable. i wear them to the gym every day, whaddup.

https://cdn10.bigcommerce.com/s-19fkae7/products/361/images/1548/M020_ranger-olive__50494.1563829773.1280.1280.jpg?c=2

i once sold a pair of champion running man herringbone gym shorts in military olive color with a < 3" inseam for like $150.

i have 1940s basketball shorts somewhere that are shorter. alas, my legs have seen better days.

ftr i am pro gym shorts. on guys with nice legs it's not even a question.

YMP, “crust punk” is wearing cut-off tees with hardcore bands or cop-fighting anime characters or trains on them with booty shorts . it gets hot in Philly.

“hippie preppy” is wearing nicer clothes but they’re a little too bright and strange and it might seem like i’m on drugs. LL Bean but make it drug-running

preppie gone druggy is classic story

i like ll bean too, but it's a good example of the secondhand market insanity with items that used to reliably fetch $10-15 starting around $50. guess i'm done with ll bean.

Seth from Dufus is the ultimate crust punk. he doesn't wear a ton of black but i saw him on the G train c. 2001 with huge mounds of actual garbage glued to his shoes.

whats a good bargain on the second hand market these days

Wow I literally have no idea what you folks are talking about but okay

I only shop LL Bean at discount shops or at the outlets in Maine— I save a couple hundred just for clothes on my annual Maine trip.

(or at least I try)

i find ll bean made in usa pieces on ebay for $10-15 regularly. usually when sellers don't put it in the title and you gotta scroll the pics to see the tags. 90s era denim/chambray shirts in partic.

not usa but ll bean camp collar shirts are plentiful, affordable, and good for summer. i have two in a pleasingly colonialist batik print that look great with the sleeves rolled way way up for flexing purposes (the default unrolled silhouette is very tommy bahama).

levis 550s (the relaxed fit) are very cheap on ebay and comfortable year round in nyc imo.

my man!

am i not as patient and resourceful as i used to be or are we looking at different pieces?

not seeing a big price difference between made in usa and imported tbh. i have seen the camp shirts real cheap! i don't want em because tommy bahama silhouette is otm

also i like camp shirts a lot but why does every fucking short sleeve shirt have a camp collar now?

annual Maine trip.

ppl who have figured out how to live

As much as I like the patterns on a lot of camp collar shirts, I am very much sticking with butch collars; they just sit better on me. I’m currently scouting around for colourful print shirts, but with long sleeves. I never actually wear them long; instead I roll them up high above the elbow, as the shape nicely masks my skinny upper arms.

camp collar is code for “i’m available”, can’t believe you guys didn’t know this

deflatormouse, one of my oldest friends comes from some money, her family has a spot on an island off of Maine— dreamy place, but i certainly couldn’t afford such a trip if i were paying for anything besides gas, tolls, and gifts

I'm happy that this forest-green Land's End barn jacket, with a corduroy collar -- it was my late dads, from the 80s/90s -- is now suddenly in style.

like a Barbour jacket?

A lot like this one (I guess Lands' End is still making them!).

Oh, and here's the jacket itself on Ebay, though mine is less faded.

that sounds amazing table, my last comment was without irony or judgement, i'm glad you get to experience that place! i've only been to maine once, with a guy i was dating who grew up in the portland area. we went for a visit and hit boothbay, it was insanely beautiful.

as midcentury leisure shirts go i'm into the early 60's italian collar and have one in my rotation currently
https://www.themoviescene.co.uk/reviews/_img/8384-3.jpg

those barn jackets never went out of style.

i have one, it makes me look hopelessly awful

my enormous 80s bean barn jacket--with a waxed poacher's pocket and webbing for shotgun shells--is one of my prize ebay scores. it is best with the collar flipped up

I've been thinking about what I could contribute to this thread. I bought this pair of shoes a couple of months ago, they're the most comfortable shoes I've ever worn:

Allbirds Men's Tree Dasher Relay

How often do you carry shotgun shells adam

better to have extra pocket features today than to be the guy with loose shells rattling around like a fucking dork tomorrow

I might be tempted to use those shotgun-shell loops for those mini airplane liquor bottles

Or harmonicas in a bunch different keys, like the dude from Blues Traveler

Maybe just go straight-up absurdist and carry like five different kinds of toothpaste or skin moisturizer

i inherited a waxed canvas Barbour-type jacket from my uncle which i absolutely love but am wary about wearing here in the UK because of pretty vivid associations with rich land-owning Tories

something his brother told me that i never knew before is that they were originally invented as motorcycle jackets!

wear mine a fair bit in spring and autumn. walk around brockwell park with a shotgun under my arm. bray loudly at the ducks etc.

a bit of brexit for lunch

xp don’t forget your red cords

correct xp

i haven’t got any red cords. i have got a splendid brick-coloured… well what colour are we calling this?

https://i.imgur.com/UPlDBuA.jpg

Rusty, which is just brown-red

they are bad ties tho

I really dig a good bandana. Unfortunately there is another shaven-headed black man on my floor at work who has made them a real signature accessory, to a point where it'd be genuinely awkward for me to show up in one.

The hiking-boot thing I was going on about upthread has led me on an unexpected tilt into outdoorsy stuff in general, in sort of a 70s climber vein. Came in handy as we got slammed with snow and cold here, and it suddenly worked especially well to be in, like, serious boots and a Bean sweater and layers of retro fleeces and thin puffers. (I've spent thirty-some years wearing wool winter coats, but I gotta admit, some of these ultralight technical things are ... functionally satisfying.) The usual gorpcore stuff still looks bad to me — too techy and synthetic, I think — but old-fashioned Ivy-League-goes-hiking things are nice? I'd assumed this was all me getting old and abandoning style in favor of utility, but I think it's actually a function of (a) growing up in Colorado in the 80s and having nice associations with this stuff, plus (b) the current general vibe being boxy-baggy and casual in a way where being sort of cozy and practical feels right. Only wrinkle is that I've been wearing fuzzy wool sweaters most every day for months — gonna be a wild shift when it warms up and I have to put them away.

I love those Engineered Garments jackets. I should be combing the internet for those.

idk what city you're in but there's a shop in london owned by eg and needles and a few other brands and they have sales where the eg jackets are half price.

Any good menswear youtubers you guys enjoy? Just watched a very accessible yet smart video on city boy but the channel's all Japanese fashion and that's a bit niche.

I was in Uniqlo the other week to buy a sweater and in the men’s section they have a rack of women’s clothes with a sign on them saying ‘men also like these’.

As a result I now have a pair of culottes which are just perfect for these variable autumn days.

Feeling this approach

Are those t-shirts with oversized shoulders and sleeves finally on their way out? I hope so. One of the douchiest looks ever conceived.

i’m afraid the ol’ drop shoulder will be with us for awhile

can we get a pic of this

yeezygaptshirt.jpg

here's an extreme example
https://5.imimg.com/data5/SELLER/Default/2021/5/AL/QU/CF/11249880/drop-shoulder-t-shirt-1000x1000.JPG

NGL, i like this look and wear it often, but then again i have huge shoulders for someone my size, so not busting out of every damn teeshirt is nice

can we get a pic of this

― Cattedrale metropolitana di Santa Maria de Episcopio, Thursday, July 16, 2026 8:29 PM (four days ago) bookmarkflaglink

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its so comfortable tho

xp well tbf zuck looks like a "douche" in every outfit, it's a gift he has

The “Andy Cooks” dude on YouTube makes it look reasonable. Not fashionable imo but he’s clearly comfortable and doing his own thing

linen pants. i need linen pants.

Luckily, they’re everywhere this summer!

finally a good trend in menswear

Linen pants + oversized short sleeves

in all seriousness, I personally like the big sleeved Muji shirts.

i keep getting advertised like 5 pairs of linen trousers for £9 on tiktok

unsurprisingly Uniqlo have some great linen trousers for a good price. my son decided he liked mine so i wound up going on Vinted to get the exact same pair again

noted

will head there and m&s during lunch i think

just fyi their current ones are cut very full so you need to be ok with a loose, wide fit

With the drop-shouldered t-shirt I think there's a sleeve modification that lifts the look a lot? Of having the sleeves be proportionally shorter and cut so the hem angles upward and outward, more than they wouild in a straight-sized oversized shirt. The drooped shoulder plus long puddling sleeves that bunch at the elbow is overwhelming to the body + too many downward lines. Some people with a certain physique can pull it off but not most.

just fyi their current ones are cut very full so you need to be ok with a loose, wide fit

― Tracer Hand, 21 July 2026 09:14 (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

waitll they get a load of me

Las summer I was desperate to find a pair of loose fit brown linen trousers for a casual occasion and couldn't seem to find them anywhere. Now I see them all over the place

Get them whilst you can we’ll be back to 10 years of tight stuff only soon enough.

Total idiotic loyalty to Uniqlo linen shirts - I live in them in the summer and on holiday, each year buy another one - but have never tried the trousers.

OK I wish they'd bring the breast pocket back on the shirts.

I keep buying ties. I just bought a grey knitted tie and also a large red one with blue stripes that kinda looks like a school tie. I think if I didn’t go to the gym or do stuff at the allotment etc., I would never wear a t-shirt ever again. I’m a shirt and tie wanker now.

that’s funny, other than funerals and weddings, i never anticipate wearing a tie ever again in my life. i hate them

i would like to have a reason to wear a tie other than funerals and weddings but i guess i need to make peace with the idea that i will not have those reasons and any tie-wearing will just have to be off my own bat

Ties are hot! Don’t ask me why, they just are.

I love ties and wear them whenever.

You totally can just put one on and go to the grocery store or whatever; no one asks if you have a reason.

It's a tiny private choice I can make and no one else gets to have a say.

The puffin gets it

Get them whilst you can we’ll be back to 10 years of tight stuff only soon enough.

― Ed, Tuesday, 21 July 2026 21:53 (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

Ugh, not looking forward to it at all

i wonder if global warming's going to make loose, flowing clothes permanently in style. not even joking!

Didn't Prada attempt to bring back skinny fit in their last show, only for everyone to roll their eyes?

I can't imagine the weather being anything like it has recently and know anyone, even the most fashion conscious I know, wanting to squeeze back in their old spray ons

theyd still be suits xp

I mean, the Tates and T. Carlson are wearing capri-tight pants, so it’s still having a moment out there.

derek guy has noted the irony of maga creeps absolutely dying on the hill of clothing that would not long ago been considered effete metrosexual fancy-boy get-ups