I Hate SUVs

And yeah Honda Civics do rock

And I'm sure if everyone got a log cabin and lived in the woods and started living in one with nature like Thoreau did in Walden, eventually buildings would crumble and golf courses would start to be overtaken by the forest and you'd see more healthy vegetation on this planet than you've seen in a century or two.

guess what pisses me off is the mentality I see constantly of instead of teaching people not to shoot others, we say get rid of all the guns.

I'm not for banning all guns, just high-powered automatic ones that are, pardon the phrase, overkill.
Similarly, I'm not against all automobiles, just SUVs.

Not bullshit. Obviously there are many many problems in the world. There are not enough hours in the day to attack all of them. Therefore, we should start with the ones that are easiest to change and those that are caused by the most amount of people. It is precisely because they are so popular that they are a problem. If only ranch hands and some construction workers drove SUVs they wouldn't be as much of a concern. Looking at the problem at a micro level doesn't give you an accurate perception of it.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have a to go flog myself and a horse with this shiny new stick from Lola.

That's funny, because you have said nothing to refute the points that were brought up in that post, just that there are other. bigger problems in the world. I have to remember that tactic, so anytime somebody gets mad at something I do I'll just say "Leave me alone, there's bigger problems in the world."

Again, duh. Isn't this board called "I Hate Everything"? The whole point of that post was to be over-generalizing. I would love it if you'd point to the part where I said "ALL SUV DRIVERS ARE THE SPAWN OF SATAN. THEY ARE THE ONLY THINGS WRONG WITH THIS WORLD." You're the one who put the 'extremist spin' on what was said.

I'm sure that for many people SUVs are necessary and the most practical car for them. However, this group makes up a small percentage of SUV owners.

See, you just assume that I was attacking every single person who ever stepped foot in an SUV. But I wasn't. I am truly sorry that you're stereotype of people who stereotype SUV drivers was not correct when applied to me.

motorcycles endanger lives too

Oh gawd...you'll say anything just to prove your 'point'. A pillow can endanger lives too. Some things, however, a MORE DANGEROUS than others. If you can't see that, then I don't know why I'm arguing with you.

"Does the few times you actually put it to good use justify the hazards it poses to fellow drivers, not to mention the environment?"

And who are you to judge what qualifies putting it to good use... how can you assume that the majority of SUV drivers are NOT putting them to good use... do you know them all personally? And don't get started on stereotypes.... you're the one who brought up the average SUV buyer as being Suzy Soccermom... oh wait, that's not what you meant... you probably specifically meant this woman down the street from you named Suzy who is a soccermom, and I shouldn't ASSUME what you meant.

You think I'll say anything to prove my point, but I think you should pay more attention. People have been bitching about the dangers of automobiles for years, and the SUV is just the next new thing to point your finger at. Motorcycles are involved in a lot of accidents too, friend. People have been saying that the dangers of motorcycle out weight any usefulness it might have as a vehicle, and that it contributes to noise pollution. There are people in this world who feel just as strongly against motorcycles as anti-SUV people, and it's just because of increased popularity that SUV's are being focused on. You are taking about the SUV's POTENTIAL for destruction. Does potential translate to definitive danger? The majority of accidents are caused by human error, not the exsistence of SUV's. Go look at the statistics. If you hit a semi, There is a good chance you are going to die. Semi's are everywhere... plus they have more weight to them than your average auto vehicle, and put more wear-and-tear on the road, making for worse driving conditions. Do we ban the semi? No! It's performing a useful function! It sucks up a lot of diesel tho! We could go back to trains, but nooo it's simpler to stick with semi's. People can keep exagerating the evils of something, and I'll keep calling them out on it. I'm not losing any sleep over it. IF YOU ARE GOING TO RECOGNIZE THE DANGERS OF ONE VEHICLE, WHY NOT BE FAIR AND MENTION THE DANGERS OF ALL? The transportation system on a whole needs changing, and when I hear people going off on one type of driver it makes me just as annoyed at the naysayer as at the dangers involved with an SUV. A lot of people who buy SUV's buy them because "they feel safer"... shouldn't it be obvious they are people with good intentions? But no... people would rather bash the drivers. How cool is that?

Exactly. Who cares if the person they crash into gets demolished, as long as their safe, right? I'm sure many have good intentions, but they are usu good selfish intentions. Plus, SUVs have been proven to be less safe than traditional vehicles.

how can you assume that the majority of SUV drivers are NOT putting them to good use... do you know them all personally?

I could ask you how can you assume they are being put do good use, but that won't get us anywhere. I live in suburbs of Chicago, so I know almost for a fact that no SUV driver is going off-road simply because there is nowhere within 1000 miles to do so. Sure, maybe a few go out to Utah every year, but I can safely say that there's not many who do. Plus, the majority of SUVs I see aren't even good off-road. There just for show.

I have something against semi's and I think we should find other ways to transport goods, but right now they're the best option we got. SUVs are not the best option we have.
I also have a problem with motorcycles, mainly Harleys, that are WAY too loud. I used to have a shitty car w/a slightly loud muffler and got pulled over for it (actually, he just wanted to search my car...I told him 'no, you can't' and he said 'it's my perogative, I see those SteaknShake bags there, ya had the munchies didn't ya?' BULLSHIT!...anyway). My exhaust wasn't even half as loud as a Harley's=double standard. But, if I crash into a biker, he's gonna be in more pain the me, which is not the case w/an SUV.
Oh, and good intentions are meaningless if they don't produce good results.

Nothing does a better job of destroying an ecosystem like a city. And please, for every one city that actually manages to main some semblance of a balanced environment, there's about ten cities that are nothing more than concrete and asphalt monstrosities with too many people and not enough vegetation. Don't even get me started on that one. But we've already made the cities, so I guess we'll just have to learn to deal. At least until the second ice age hits.

I think most hippies are too lazy, uh, I mean, relaxed to change the channel, so I don't know how they'd tend a farm LOL