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serious thread, whoa! do you ever ponder it like the great intellectuals? does it scare you? what's yr take on it? for the record it scares me, and i don't have a take on it.

black plastic (black plastic), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 00:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm only scared of other people dying

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 01:15 (twenty-one years ago)

thinking about it isn't going to help me understand it, so i tend not to think about it.

The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 02:12 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't know how i feel about other people dying. i haven't had to deal with it much so far. perhaps i'm too selfish to understand.

The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 02:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I've thought quite a lot about it, I guess, and I basically agree with Andrew. Other people dying sucks, yeah, but your death isn't something that subjectively happens to you. Like Wittgenstein said: death isn't an event in life, we don't experience it.

Minty (Minty), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 02:25 (twenty-one years ago)

http://martinamis.albion.edu/larkina.htm

Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 02:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I just heard Elliot Smith killed himself, is this for real?

Elisabeth (Elisabeth), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 09:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Fuck! If it's true it's fairly recent:
http://www.nme.com/news/106511.htm

Elisabeth (Elisabeth), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 09:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I needn't go on, there's a thread on ILE. Only one of the links I read said suicide though and there's only like 3 articles.

Elisabeth (Elisabeth), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 09:27 (twenty-one years ago)

That poor guy, I now feel awful for hassling him

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 12:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, his music. Anyway I guess the irony of Wittgenstein's observation is that the thing that affects us most so far as death goes isn't actually DYING, but worrying about it obsessively etc and spoiling our lives by that. Like the fear/anxiety of/about something we can't/won't experience in itself replaces the event itself and becomes a needlessly fearful thing, I dunno, something like that

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 12:43 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm afraid of other people dying, and i'm afraid of dying if it's not me that'll be doing it to myself

jonathan gittins (nevermind^), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 13:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I've dealt with death quite a bit in my 21 years on this crazy planet. **that's what I get for having a huge, Mexican family**. I don't like it. I'm scared of it, and I am scared of myself dying too. I was watching a program last night and it was about Urban Legends, but they were talking about ghosts. In the narration, they said that people are very intrigued/scared by ghosts and death because we know absolutely nothing about it. To me, that makes a lot of sense. If we were raised with the fact that gohsts came in and out of our lives and stuff, we'd be okay with that...and if we knew one definite that that all happened to us when we died, we'd probably be okay with that too. We'd be desensitized.

Lola Falana, Wednesday, 22 October 2003 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)

It's one of the few things we all have in common, no?

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 22:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I dunno whether the most worrying thing about death is the metaphysical worry, the fear of being gone, so much as the pain and general nastiness that's usually involved in the dying process. Some people think that metaphysical dread is an important and constant force in our lives, but I can easily think of some past situations so unpleasant that I'd have opted to blink myself out of existence if such an easy option had been available. My guess is that metaphysical fear alone wouldn't be strong enough to keep most people alive through high school.

Minty (Minty), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Hurting other people by dying worries me more than the pain, I could always just OD on something and pass out forever

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 23 October 2003 00:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm scared of the pain of unexpected death (as opposed to suicide) - when I was about eleven I couldn't sleep for fear of being buried alive.

Livvie (Livvie), Thursday, 23 October 2003 00:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I used to be really scared of being locked away behind a brick wall. It was because I had some book about a woman who was in with Guy Fawkes and she got locked away behind a brick wall and they found her skeleton. I can't remember what happened exactly.

Elisabeth (Elisabeth), Thursday, 23 October 2003 03:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Edgar Allan Poe has a great horrible story about that, "The Cask of Amontillado" or something

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 23 October 2003 04:18 (twenty-one years ago)

THE CASK OF AMONTILLADO IS THE GREATEEST HORROR STORY EVER!!!

Lola Falana, Thursday, 23 October 2003 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)

i may have to inquire :o :}

jonathan gittins (nevermind^), Thursday, 23 October 2003 16:39 (twenty-one years ago)

You should read it, if that's what yr meaning my man

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 13:26 (twenty-one years ago)

what else would i do with it?:/
tbh.

jonathan gittins (nevermind^), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 14:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Interpret it in dance

Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 23:44 (twenty-one years ago)


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