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11 out of 10. Best show in the history of television. Have at it.

― Schwingung (Damian), Thursday, 27 November 2003 12:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I also love The Simpsons very much, and I can hear Doctor Colossus paraphrasing in my head: "But they were rank amateurs compared to..."

So yes, Seinfeld shades it for me. What say ye?

― Schwingung (Damian), Thursday, 27 November 2003 12:38 (twenty-one years ago)

"He looks like you and he's working from the inside!"
"I look like me and I'm working from the outside!"

― Schwingung (Damian), Thursday, 27 November 2003 12:39 (twenty-one years ago)

It's sort of weird how little Seinfeld is anchored in popular culture references in comparison to The Simpsons - references to movies or songs in Seinfeld are at a premium. I guess Seinfeld was more about sports and product placement.

― Schwingung (Damian), Thursday, 27 November 2003 12:49 (twenty-one years ago)

George is the greatest! Did anyone ever see Duckman? Jason Alexander was perfecth for that character.

Anyway, yeah Seinfeld was a great show. I always thought Seinfeld the character was kinda annoying, tho.

― Minty (Minty), Thursday, 27 November 2003 12:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I never saw enough of Duckman, sadly.

"George likes his chicken spicy."

― Schwingung (Damian), Thursday, 27 November 2003 12:58 (twenty-one years ago)

But no way is Seinfeld depriving The Simpsons of its rightful title as best show in the history of television.

― Minty (Minty), Thursday, 27 November 2003 13:06 (twenty-one years ago)

"KOKO the MONKEY"

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 27 November 2003 13:24 (twenty-one years ago)

"Watkins? You're having a t-bone?!"

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 27 November 2003 13:24 (twenty-one years ago)

"Hey Elaine it's George, listen-" CLICK

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 27 November 2003 13:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah I love this show. I think Elaine's about the funniest female Tv character ever, and George nearly takes the male title but I think Homer just about edges him out. Sorry, George.

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 27 November 2003 13:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I have a couple of Duckmans on tape, they're pretty good too

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 27 November 2003 13:31 (twenty-one years ago)

i wish i was kramer. he had good shirts

― the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 27 November 2003 13:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I've got a few good Kramer shirts, apparently

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 27 November 2003 13:40 (twenty-one years ago)

jerry is supposed to be annoying and smug, that's the point!

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

i remember thinking the last two seasons of seinfeld were terrible and played-out, but i watch those episodes now and can't really figure out what i disliked about em first time around.

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Those seasons are my favourites

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 28 November 2003 04:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Interesting to think of Jerry as a passenger on his own show, in the same way Dawson was on Dawson's Creek - I never watched it but all the fans I knew loathed Dawson. But I digress.

"It's like the... Aurora Borealis!"

― Schwingung (Damian), Friday, 28 November 2003 09:03 (twenty-one years ago)

That episode you quoted first was on tonight, it was really good.

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 28 November 2003 09:05 (twenty-one years ago)

"If he can regift, why can't you degift?"

― Schwingung (Damian), Friday, 28 November 2003 10:02 (twenty-one years ago)

"Newman would make a terrible leader! And you know who it'd be hardest on? The little people, like you. And George."

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 28 November 2003 10:04 (twenty-one years ago)

"I'm taking the Congo as a penalty!"

― Schwingung (Damian), Friday, 28 November 2003 10:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I like the Ukrainian guy on the subway

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 28 November 2003 10:07 (twenty-one years ago)

"Ukraine is game to you?"

― Schwingung (Damian), Friday, 28 November 2003 10:09 (twenty-one years ago)

"I'm doing what I do, the way I've always done it and the way I'll always do it."
"Kramer, what the hell are you talking about?"

Also classic in the episode I refer to is when Kramer is released from police custody and they start doing that song and dance "'cause the murderer struck again!"

― Schwingung (Damian), Friday, 28 November 2003 10:11 (twenty-one years ago)

The Kramer goes to LA twopart thing was the first Seinfeld I ever saw, I don't think it was much of a way to start. I did like it ok, though.

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 28 November 2003 10:25 (twenty-one years ago)

What about the one where they try and trade in those records?

― Schwingung (Damian), Friday, 28 November 2003 10:56 (twenty-one years ago)

"I FIND YOU EXTREMELY UGLY!"

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 28 November 2003 10:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah I like that one a lot, unsurprisingly. "The old coot's sitting on a mountain of gold!"

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 28 November 2003 11:01 (twenty-one years ago)

"You embarrassed us!"

Kramer telling Newman what to say - comedy gold.

― Schwingung (Damian), Friday, 28 November 2003 11:12 (twenty-one years ago)

i know a guy who looks EXACTLY LIKE newman. my best mate calls him 'newman'. he doesn't like that.

― the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 28 November 2003 11:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I occasionally see an old man out and about in Auckland who bears a freaky resemblance to Frank Costanza. It's great.

― Schwingung (Damian), Friday, 28 November 2003 11:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Now I am trying to think of Frank's finest moment.

― Schwingung (Damian), Friday, 28 November 2003 11:45 (twenty-one years ago)

"Tommy Toon is very tall. It makes him... lankier!"
That's great, but that's still not it.

― Schwingung (Damian), Friday, 28 November 2003 11:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Frank Costanza is funnier in his own right than Granpa Simpson, I reckon. So that's a point in Seinfeld's favour.

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 28 November 2003 11:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh that episode where they had dinner with the Rosses was funny, when Frank was asking about the hens, chickens and roosters. But I'm still mentally searching for Frank's best moment.

― Schwingung (Damian), Friday, 28 November 2003 12:12 (twenty-one years ago)

"SERENITY NOW!"?

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 28 November 2003 12:40 (twenty-one years ago)

"HOOCHIE MAMA!"

― Schwingung (Damian), Friday, 28 November 2003 12:44 (twenty-one years ago)

"A young girl's strange erotic journey from Milan to Minsk..."

― Schwingung (Damian), Friday, 28 November 2003 13:07 (twenty-one years ago)

"Why don't you just tell me the name of the movie you want?"

I'd say it's a tie among the sitcoms

Seinfeld
Simpsons
Andy Griffith Show (in b/w)
Mary Tyler Moore Show

There are plenty of pop-culture references in Seinfeld. "The English Patient," "Schindler's List," "War--what is it good for?," Marisa Tomei, Kenny Rogers, Superman (of course), "Midnight Cowboy," Merv Griffin, Raquel Welch, etc. The diff in my opine is that Simpsons is blatantly "counterculture"/"left" whereas Seinfeld is truly post-hip and not-quite-post ideology of any kind. The four Beatles in Seinfeld don't really drink (Elaine does on occasion), take drugs, listen to pop music, worry about "film" as "art" (talk during movies), or anything else. Yet they get out and affect the world and change the course of history (the Guiliani-yogurt episode). So they're the '90s Beatles, affecting everything yet strangely detached from events, which is the ultimate yuppie fantasy. Kramer is the token "hipster," Elaine the token symbol of "sexual freedom" (and the one link to Olde New York Kulture in her publishing jobs), and George the "loser" gets to work for the Yankees, becomes a polymath, and actually saves a whale. So, not bad for supposedly disengaged folk, right? Jerry needs them for material and to anchor him in the "real world." As were the Beatles, the 4 are on the edges of the "civilized" world of "art" (in the case of the Seinfeld characters, again, New York) yet they do get out and have a lot of fun.

― eddie hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 29 November 2003 16:19 (twenty-one years ago)

"The sea was angry that day, my friends..."

― Minty (Minty), Sunday, 30 November 2003 01:18 (twenty-one years ago)

as i once vehemently argued with a friend, the dick van dyke show was superior to the mary tyler moore show for the simple reason that black and white is always better than color.

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 30 November 2003 07:03 (twenty-one years ago)

eddie hurt, you make several good points. I guess Seinfeld SEEMS more detached in the way it uses pop-culture references, or the distinction might be in my head.

"And you wanna be my latex salesman..."

― Schwingung (Damian), Sunday, 30 November 2003 10:34 (twenty-one years ago)

http://kissasylum.com/celebrities/seinfeld.jpg

― Schwingung (Damian), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 01:28 (twenty-one years ago)

That pic's been doctored, tempting as it is to imagine a fire-breathing Jerry with a foot-long tongue. This next pic actually does sum up their personalities rather well, though -

http://www.beyondtherainbow2oz.com/auctionseinfeld-c.jpg

― Schwingung (Damian), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 01:30 (twenty-one years ago)

"His buttocks are sublime"

― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 04:54 (twenty-one years ago)

"His struggle is man's struggle."

― Schwingung (Damian), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 09:20 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.movieprop.com/tvandmovie/Seinfeld/wacky.jpg

― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 09:37 (twenty-one years ago)

"It was like a full-body dry heave set to music."

― Schwingung (Damian), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 12:19 (twenty-one years ago)

"Could we lose the exclamation point? Cause it's not 'Top o' the Muffin TO YOU!"

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 4 December 2003 04:34 (twenty-one years ago)

"No, it is!

― Elisabeth (Elisabeth), Thursday, 4 December 2003 04:41 (twenty-one years ago)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 4 December 2003 04:44 (twenty-one years ago)

"A blurb? YOU'RE a blurb!"

― Schwingung (Damian), Thursday, 4 December 2003 08:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, talk about it, talk about it, talk about it, talk about it
Talk about, talk about, talk about Seinfeld

― Schwingung (Damian), Friday, 5 December 2003 12:21 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, I will.

Tonight I was really pleased to find out that there is actually a band called the Moops.

― Schwingung (Damian), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 10:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I find that news marked good to hear my man

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 11:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, if they hadn't done it, I would have had to. Now that I think of it, it's too bad there was no episode of Seinfeld where they tried to form a band and were really crap. But I suppose that's too much of a done comedy thing for Seinfeld.

― Schwingung (Damian), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 12:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I can imagine Kramer revealing he was one of the guys who auditioned to replace Mick Taylor, tho

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 12:50 (twenty-one years ago)

And Jerry reminds me of Mark Knopfler - I only found out the other day that Knopfler was Jewish too.

― Schwingung (Damian), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 12:59 (twenty-one years ago)

"I think the M&M should be you"

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 13:43 (twenty-one years ago)

"Million-to-one shot, Doc. Million-to-one."

― Schwingung (Damian), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 09:37 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,13170,00.html

― Schwingung (Damian), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 11:38 (twenty-one years ago)

This sort of stuff is always kinda depressing, but I'm into seeing Bee Movie

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 11:41 (twenty-one years ago)

That's gonna be a bigass helpin' of DVDs. I am looking forward to it.

― Schwingung (Damian), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 11:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah the DVDs sound great, but the stars bitching and moping, geez

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Tuesday, 30 December 2003 11:47 (twenty-one years ago)

HAPPY FESTIVUS EVERY ONE!!
it's time to take down the pole.

― julep, Tuesday, 6 January 2004 07:17 (twenty-one years ago)

seinfeld ties simpsons for first place. their both indispensable.

I'm really liking Curb Your Enthusiasm though. in some ways it's more satisfying than seinfeld. everything seems more plausible - which doesn't necessarily make it better or worse than seinfeld, but it's more satisfying to me right now. of course, seinfeld is infinitely more quotable than Curb...

it has a high strength to weight ratio!

― AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 15 January 2004 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

four years pass...

SNOOPY, and PRICKLY PETE!

― Niles Caulder, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 13:04 (sixteen years ago)

I MEAN JUST TRY TO IMAGINE CALLING A FUCKING HORSE FUCKING PRICKLY PETE. JUST TRY. AND THEN, TRY NOT TO LAUGH AND DISTURB YOUR SLEEPING GIRLF WHO HAS WORK TOMORROW.

― Niles Caulder, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 13:12 (sixteen years ago)

Oh good thinking, I just started wondering why one'd call a horse Snoopy....

― Niles Caulder, Tuesday, 9 December 2008 13:13 (sixteen years ago)

two years pass...

I was really off on a tangent thet night

― The reverse TARDIS of pasta (Niles Caulder), Saturday, 19 March 2011 20:59 (fourteen years ago)

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