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nothing especially cutting edge, i play tracks that i've produced at home using an SP404 and kaoss pad quad (adding effects and triggering samples), and add live drums to sections on a small acoustic kit.

precious bonsai children of new york (Jordan), Monday, 12 August 2013 17:22 (eleven years ago) link

welp, one of the pieces I thought was cut from our concert in two weeks is back on, and we just got the music for it so we can memorize it

oh well

OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Monday, 12 August 2013 17:26 (eleven years ago) link

It's OK LL, I still feel like a bit of a faker at this myself! Like "oh hey I can make music sound ok with presets lolol *sing sing*". Still, it goes over ok...

It is like ganging up on Enya (Trayce), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 01:54 (eleven years ago) link

I bought a £3.50 shakuhachi. Look out world, my hit machine is just warming up.

SKYLER FFS SKYLER SKYLER SKYLER (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 03:30 (eleven years ago) link

I don't even know what a shakuhachi is beyond a General MIDI patch
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-- A smile on a dog, Stephen answered, (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 11:18 (eleven years ago) link

Best emulator sample of all time iirc

without you, my anus is insane (electricsound), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 11:30 (eleven years ago) link

Ugh, after mastering, not happy enough with my timing. Might have to finish this after moving, aargh.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 13:37 (eleven years ago) link

FML

EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 13:41 (eleven years ago) link

Sat down to edit a note that was off by the duration of a 64th note

Reminds me of the time I re-rendered a track just to reduce the volume of one instrument by half a decibel.

slamming on the dubstep brakes (snoball), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 13:46 (eleven years ago) link

do it right, guys :)

-- A smile on a dog, Stephen answered, (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 13:57 (eleven years ago) link

OTM, sadly.:(

EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 14:13 (eleven years ago) link

Reminds me of the time I re-rendered a track just to reduce the volume of one instrument by half a decibel.

oh i do this all the time

festival culture (Jordan), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 16:53 (eleven years ago) link

That actually sounds like standard mixing procedure to me tbh.:P

EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 20:43 (eleven years ago) link

1: reduce volume of closed hi hats
2: render track
3: listen to track and realise that closed hi hats are still too loud
4: repeat from step 1 about a hundred and trillion times
5: say "fudge it" and leave the track as it is
6: every time this track is played think "damn this sounds terrible"
7: remix entire album
8: repeat from step 1

slamming on the dubstep brakes (snoball), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 20:48 (eleven years ago) link

closed hi-hats can be crazy, like looking at the meters they'll be the quietest thing in the track BY FAR, but they just cut through at any volume. like they can be almost subliminal and still do their job. loud hi-hats are cool too though.

festival culture (Jordan), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 21:09 (eleven years ago) link

Ah. Yeah, I get you. I spent a good amount of time this year remixing a piece from 2 years ago. Then uploaded it to Soundcloud where 128kbps streaming killed it anyway, ultimately taking it down anyway.

I just got back from a studio where I made an appointment to go over a mix with pro dudes. They basically thought it was fine and didn't need any real changes. I am feeling audio autodidact pride.

xpost

EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 21:32 (eleven years ago) link

I used to be really anal about my mixes, these days I’m all about capturing raw energy, and the take is the take - live mix down, riding the faders, no going back afterwards.

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 21:33 (eleven years ago) link

Well, you guys can judge yourselves now.:P
https://soundcloud.com/sund4r-subramanian/locks-and-ripples-solo

I may revisit this but now it's time to move on with life.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 21:36 (eleven years ago) link

you have to correct the 4 to an a but I got it, sounds good. What is doing the processing?

-- A smile on a dog, Stephen answered, (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 22:12 (eleven years ago) link

sounds dope! really nice man. sounds like future fripp at times.

i wouldn't worry about the timing at all, there's nothing with really hard transients keeping you honest so it's super forgiving, you know? any rubato-ness (of which there is very little) just sounds intentional.

festival culture (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 22:33 (eleven years ago) link

and now i've stumbled into a world of academic guitar shredder soundclouds

festival culture (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 22:37 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks, guys (and thanks for pointing out that correction, fgti)! Yeah, solo classical guitar performance (where all my guitar training has been since I was 14) tends to be pretty rubato-happy so it can actually sometimes be a challenge to play really straight and evenly when I do something more pop/rock-influenced. I figure if a jazz drummer tells me not to worry about the timing, I'm doing OK.

Fgti: I'll give an answer to that question when I have a little more time to write something more detailed.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 15 August 2013 02:56 (eleven years ago) link

cool music sund4r

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 15 August 2013 14:50 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks, n/a!

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 15 August 2013 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

What is doing the processing?

Wasn't sure how much detail you were looking for but:

It's a six-track Max for Live set. I control everything with a MIDI foot controller.

There's a Looper on every track, set to reverse on three tracks. One important effect was a 'Randomized Stutter' which plays back randomized grains of the input at randomized speeds, allowing the user to select maximum and minimum grain size and playback rate and whose output amplitude is scaled to the input amplitude. I can also control dry/wet levels with an expression pedal. On the first loop that you hear, it's set so that the playback rate 'glisses' between random values, using the "line" object in Max. On other tracks, this is turned off so that you have a choppier effect.

The main effect on the second loop you hear is an FFT-based convolution effect that's probably too complicated to explain right now tbh, again with levels controlled by an expression pedal. (The input is an E-bowed low D.)

The third loop is one chord split between two tracks and looped backwards, with just the stutter on one track and also with a couple of FFT-based effects on the other that are based on compressing and expanding the relative amplitudes of the different frequency bins, either with an expression pedal or according to a preset algorithm.

On top of that, there are, of course, Ableton Live EQs, choruses, reverbs, delays, stereo panning, etc.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 15 August 2013 23:22 (eleven years ago) link

very dope, i was wondering how much randomization there was, especially for the rhythmic (stutter & delay) effects.

compressing and expanding the relative amplitudes of the different frequency bins

i'm not sure i know what this means but it sounds cool.

festival culture (Jordan), Friday, 16 August 2013 15:11 (eleven years ago) link

Any sound wave can be broken down as the sum of a series of sine waves which all have different amplitudes, frequencies, and phase shifts, right? It is this particular frequency spectrum that defines the sound's timbre. The FFT actually breaks the sound down into these component frequencies. Some of them obviously have much greater amplitudes than others. Basically, you could think of this as like a really fine graphic EQ. What the effect does is it compresses and expands the differences in amplitudes between the component frequencies (makes the levels on the EQ more flatlined or more peaky). I've got two effects on there, one that does this according to how I rock an expression pedal, another that does this automatically that is controlled by a wave that is generated by FM synthesis according to various inputs.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 16 August 2013 21:29 (eleven years ago) link

I have been buying gear. gear gear gear.

I tweeted too much and I am in jail. (crüt), Monday, 19 August 2013 00:08 (eleven years ago) link

me toooooo what did you buy

ship who you wanna ship (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 19 August 2013 00:11 (eleven years ago) link

I'm doing a split cassette w/a false doom metal/drone band so I ordered a proco turborat and mxr blue box. and I decided I'm gonna buy an ebow too. I don't know how useful all of this will end up being but we'll see.

I tweeted too much and I am in jail. (crüt), Monday, 19 August 2013 00:21 (eleven years ago) link

I bought a dual expression pedal which I'm hooking up to two pitchshifters. Single pitch -> microtonal clouds -> single pitch

ship who you wanna ship (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 19 August 2013 00:52 (eleven years ago) link

Wow, that sounds v cool. You're using that to process your violin?

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 19 August 2013 00:57 (eleven years ago) link

When we were first learning MaxMSP, with much frustration and without much sense of where it could ultimately lead, my friend and I had a running joke along the lines of "well, we spent two weeks programming ... in order to make a pitchshifter we could have bought from Guitar Center".

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 19 August 2013 01:00 (eleven years ago) link

xp Yes. If the cloud is narrow and there's a plate on the treatment it is "instant orchestra" and if the cloud is wide and there is no plate it is "instant Hiroshima"

ship who you wanna ship (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 19 August 2013 01:00 (eleven years ago) link

not actual explosions but Penderecki *cough*

ship who you wanna ship (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 19 August 2013 01:01 (eleven years ago) link

"Plate" as in plate reverb?

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 19 August 2013 01:41 (eleven years ago) link

i am going to a jam session organized by a 'middle aged hack' in my neighborhood. craigslist ad. the guy likes classic rock, funny writer, seemed to have a good attitude. other dudes showing up to this thing have suggested some pearl jam and 'sweet home chicago'. should be fun!

R'LIAH (goole), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:20 (eleven years ago) link

spent all day at work with headphones in listening to "Lost in the Stars" so I can have a hope of being half-memorized by Thursday; will repeat the process tomorrow

OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:28 (eleven years ago) link

impulse bought an SG :X

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 16:48 (eleven years ago) link

!

there are more than 3.5 HOOS per steen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 16:48 (eleven years ago) link

also a RAT. i just went in for strap locks :/

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 16:49 (eleven years ago) link

many emotions :/ :X :G :D

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 16:49 (eleven years ago) link

rad!

Coming Out Of Elton John's Mouth (crüt), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 16:50 (eleven years ago) link

i just thought, how am i tryin to be 33 and not owning the guitar i've wanted my entire life

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 16:50 (eleven years ago) link

nice. i used to have one, then one day (artists rendition of what happened)

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTZ7wmptPwCNwEr67oqOmJKfuigsTeASEsZuJCsNoEZerOVGlI6sg

brownie, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 16:53 (eleven years ago) link

that makes sense sund4r, thanks for breaking that down.

i'm not complaining, but i had a review of a new track yesterday that said something about the rhythmic shifts being "unintentionally disorienting" -- oh i sure you, it was intentional. :)

festival culture (Jordan), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 16:55 (eleven years ago) link

xp

snap. i really need to knuckle down and learn more about instrument repair. which reminds me, i need to fix a crack in the body of my t-bird. it's such a weird shape, it will be hard to clamp.

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 16:57 (eleven years ago) link

i just thought, how am i tryin to be 33 and not owning the guitar i've wanted my entire life

OTM. I bought an ES-335 when I turned 34.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 18:42 (eleven years ago) link

Congrats btw! That's great.

Exam in less than 2h.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 19:49 (eleven years ago) link


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