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lets hear some blues on those synths

| (Latham Green), Saturday, 8 October 2022 15:37 (two years ago) link

FM synthesis is a whole other thing though, you can't follow the normal subtractive process of oscillators etc.

I like the black box nature of FM (unless you really know what you're doing obv), just messing with operators until it sounds cool. That's why the hands-on aspect of the Op Six seems very appealing.

change display name (Jordan), Saturday, 8 October 2022 17:01 (two years ago) link

Oh right sorry I forgot the op six was their fm synth. I was thinking of the poly six

realistic pillow (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 9 October 2022 02:17 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

this is what I've done so far this year

https://archive.org/details/2022-system

| (Latham Green), Thursday, 27 October 2022 20:22 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Worked really hard on transcribing this little Tony Rice intro and felt like I really had a breakthrough in terms of speed, fluidity, articulation, etc. Really enjoying this process

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Ck2MGjUjjHF/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 13 November 2022 02:53 (two years ago) link

So nice!

Tib, Sunday, 13 November 2022 14:18 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

what do you do for listener fatigue for something you're working on? i have to keep listening to these recordings bc i want to finish them but also i feel brainfried by them and like i hear something new that needs adjusting every time i listen. i know the answer is "take a break from the songs and come back with fresh ears," and i did take a break over the thanksgiving week but even just the past few days of getting back into work on them has me feeling burnt out again. usually i'm pretty happy just to get something "good enough" and move on, i don't know why i'm feeling the pressure this time.

na (NA), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 14:23 (one year ago) link

i kind of want an outside opinion (not on the songwriting but someone to tell me "hey the vocals are too loud here" or "this bit sounds weird") but i'm not sure who i would ask for that and i feel intimidated by bringing in an outsider. my bandmates are too nice about everything since i'm doing all the recording/mixing/arranging, i don't think they want to give me that kind of feedback.

na (NA), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 14:27 (one year ago) link

ugh, remember that feeling. I do feel like an outsider is best, but it has to be someone you really trust.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 14:30 (one year ago) link

can you reference it against a track you like that has a similar sound and arrangement?

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 14:38 (one year ago) link

that's not a bad idea. i've seen that as advice a lot but i don't know that i've ever tried doing it.

na (NA), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 14:53 (one year ago) link

I don't do it enough either, but when I have it's been extremely helpful for general balance (ie is the bass present enough or too overpowering, is the kick drum coming through, is the vocal loud enough or too loud).

Also my favorite bit of mix advice is that all good mixes have one element that's "too loud" (or else they're just boring).

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 16:56 (one year ago) link

yeah it's taken me a while to figure out that "you can hear everything equally well" isn't necessarily the same thing as "a good mix"

i know i'm the one complaining, but i think something else that has helped was going back and listening to older stuff i recorded and mixed to remind myself of my personal mixing pitfalls to avoid. eg i tend to mix vocals too low and the bass too loud, so i'm making myself mix the bass a hair quieter than i think it should be and the vocals a hair louder than i think they should be.

na (NA), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 17:08 (one year ago) link

Isn't it wild how loud the vocals are on most big pop records? Vocals and drums extremely high in the mix, everything else much lower.

I'm also guilty of wanting everything at the same level in a mix, which isn't really a mix (unless the arrangement is extremely minimal). If I find myself burying something in the mix, I usually just take it out entirely.

I think this comes from listening to New Orleans brass band records so much, where I really do believe that each element is as important as the others.

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 17:19 (one year ago) link

If I end up liking too many parts (which I usually do) I will wiggle the volume envelopes so that they come into and out of prominence at different places.

I am notorious for never quite thinking there are enough different guitar parts, and the result can get mushy. Like, there's an acoustic all the way through, plus an arpeggiated electric, plus a power-chord electric. They can't all star at once, so I try to give each one a chance to step out a bit and then go back into the general mush.

I used to also do a lot of panning trickery - one ear would have a strummed steel-string and the other ear would get fingerstyle nylon. Then have them ever so gradually switch ears, so that now they're on opposite sides.

Godley and Creamsicle (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 17:53 (one year ago) link

I used to do more of that stuff too, but it started to sound distracting and 'fake' to me, I'd much rather have as few instruments as possible with each one able to take up more room.

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 29 November 2022 18:40 (one year ago) link

feel a lot better about this project now. i mostly probably just needed to step away from it that day bc i was not in the right frame of mind, but ultimately what i decided is i would focus on one song at a time and make sure each one was "perfect" before moving on to the next one. i also pushed my bandmates for more input and they made some helpful suggestions. 10/12 songs are basically finalized now but the last two are going to take a bit longer.

na (NA), Monday, 5 December 2022 16:09 (one year ago) link

That's absolutely normal. I don't know why, but there are always a couple of songs on an album that take much longer to get right than all the other tracks.

Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Monday, 5 December 2022 18:26 (one year ago) link

yeah and one of those is a song that we're totally changing the sound of in midstream, so it involves rerecording parts. that's going to be the lagger.

na (NA), Monday, 5 December 2022 18:32 (one year ago) link

I've always found listening to mixes in mono as a good perspective on relative loudness of tracks

Feel like if it hangs together in mono, doesn't have to be perfect or anything, you're on the right track

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 5 December 2022 18:37 (one year ago) link

And isn't it weird how your perception of what the best songs are changes based on which ones turn out to be the best mixes (which is in turn likely rooted in which ones have the best arrangements)?

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 5 December 2022 18:44 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

I'm featured on a terrible song and now the artist wants me to promote it on social media, he's a very friendly, kind of lonely person who promotes his own stuff incessantly

I want to help him but I'm honestly ashamed of this collaboration

I'm not good at saying no

corrs unplugged, Thursday, 22 December 2022 11:24 (one year ago) link

I made this in August with Logic (and Audition to edit the samples). Might do more of this in 2023.

https://soundcloud.com/burningambulance/grawlix-pushing-the-boat-out

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 26 December 2022 14:54 (one year ago) link

From the practice diaries, I think I'm on the verge of a real breakthrough in terms of drumming technique. But I'm now fully convinced that it's about physics and not raw finger speed (which I don't have). I had gotten away from the 'bouncing ball' feeling in my weak hand, because every time I accessed it I was relaxing my entire hand so much that I would lose my grip on the stick (it would slide back so that eventually I would just be gripping the tip). Basically my fulcrum (thumb and some portion of the first finger) was falling apart.

So now my approach is to not care about wrist vs fingers, but to access that weightless, bouncing ball, travelling with the stick feeling in my back three fingers WHILE maintaining enough of a fulcrum (without squeezing) to keep the stick in place. It all seems a bit obvious in retrospect, but had just never clicked until now. I haven't totally internalized it yet but I can tell that it results in a level of speed and relaxation (and control, and sound) that I wasn't sure if I'd ever be able to attain.

Weckl talks about this exact thing here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdeqV0hz05E

But the weird thing is that it doesn't really look that different compared to bad technique (like if you have a too-tight fulcrum and you're forcing everything with too much tension), it's just a radically different feeling in the hand.

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 29 December 2022 18:26 (one year ago) link

Also I don't know if I subconsciously couldn't make the shift until I had a break between gigs, or if it just worked out that way. But it's good because when I started working on this a few days ago I literally couldn't hold onto the stick until I figured out a new fulcrum (and I'm glad I have a few weeks before I have to play in public again).

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 29 December 2022 18:29 (one year ago) link

finished mixing the album discussed upthread, got it mastered. trying for once to, instead of just releasing the album right away, holding on to it for a bit and trying to line up some promotion before release, mostly like independent radio and blogs. it's so embarrassing and dumb, but also i figure i can't complain about no one listening to our album if i don't put any effort into getting people to listen to it. otoh when no one still listens to it it's going to be extra frustrating lol

na (NA), Thursday, 29 December 2022 20:16 (one year ago) link

Are you sending promos to bands you like who are active? Sometimes other bands are the best advocates, can't hurt to have some allies. You can't expect anything, but you never know, at least musicians know what it feels like to want someone to listen to your record.

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 29 December 2022 21:06 (one year ago) link

hmm interesting thought

na (NA), Thursday, 29 December 2022 21:12 (one year ago) link

four weeks pass...

here's a little jam that is mostly Pigments and Ableton

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90a-95X4wlg

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 27 January 2023 15:36 (one year ago) link

Very nice, I've never done a whole track jam like this but I haven't even used a hardware synth or controller for awhile, gone back to mouse and automation entirely.

Good things are finally happening with my weak drumming hand, things are opening up after 6 months since I started working on full/rebound strokes. It took a long time to diagnose everything, but I was not 'accepting the rebound' at all and my single stroke mechanics have been messed up since I started playing. And I was going nuts thinking about things like "which fulcrum am I using", "why does the stick keep slipping", why can't I get decent finger control, etc.. And that all started going away once I started relaxing my fingers and letting the stick just rebound up into the fulcrum position, with the other fingers following it. Idk it's hard to explain, but I was too focused on gripping the stick and simulating what a good stroke looks like, without actually using any of the physics involved. And of course relaxing is scary when all the mechanics aren't there, you'll drop the stick or won't be able to play. Still working on internalizing everything of course but I kind of can't believe it's actually starting to feel good.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 27 January 2023 22:34 (one year ago) link

Fantastic! I attempted to do some drum practice and rudiments a few months back and realized that I had pretty much lost all ability in that area over the years. I wish I had the motivation to improve, but now I'm pondering packing up the drums and replacing them with more synth gear.

Even though it is nice and very attractive, I don't really like the Push 2, it feels quite awkward to me. Not sure there is a better controller for Ableton though. I'd like to get more into some amount of live performance, but it would probably be focused around hardware rather than the Push.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 27 January 2023 22:40 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

My shed studio/office renovation just finished and i finally have a place to play and record again. got a drum kit, nord electro 3, OP-1, two electric guitars (strat/gretsch), and acoustic martin, and a fender precision bass all in the same room. also mics. looking forward to singing again. i was looking at some of those reverb/harmonizer pedals for vocals. has anyone messed with those? looking for a little extra something with my vocal performances. my voice is fine, just doesn't have much depth to it.

this has been a dream of mine since i started living in apartments in my 20s, but i'm now in my 40s and feel a little like i'm having a midlife crisis. i just want to make music all day

Heez, Thursday, 16 March 2023 14:08 (one year ago) link

that's awesome, i dream of living somewhere where i can have a dedicated music space, especially one big/isolated enough to include drums of some kind. right now all my gear is in the corner of my daughter's bedroom. in our last apartment we used what was supposed to be the pantry as a very tiny and narrow "office"/"music room"

na (NA), Thursday, 16 March 2023 14:11 (one year ago) link

I am going to jam with Jorma Kaukonen's son tomorrow

As one does

she loves me like a rock lobster (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 01:00 (one year ago) link

!!!

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 01:20 (one year ago) link

No way! Actually now that I think if it, I have a friend from the DC area who is friend’s with that kid’s mother, I think.

It’s Only Her Factory, Girl! (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 01:24 (one year ago) link

Are his initials ZK?

It’s Only Her Factory, Girl! (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 01:34 (one year ago) link

Mom died of cancer several years ago, used to work in an Arlington public school with my friend’s wife. Don’t think JK was a particular good family man at some points. Of course you will be tactful enough not to bring any of this up, even if I was not tactful enough to refrain from typing it. Who can throw stones.

It’s Only Her Factory, Girl! (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 01:58 (one year ago) link

JR, yeah he's a Z but I'm not sure what last name he uses. It's a hyper-local connection, totally.

I am a promiscuous collaborator - at the expense of promoting my own vision or trying to do anything in particular.

Basically, when someone asks me to do something, I say yes. As a result I have played with some very fine musicians, including some notable ones... as well as some people who really had no business being up on stage at all. I just like staying active and performing.

she loves me like a rock lobster (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 02:35 (one year ago) link

Feeling that.

It’s Only Her Factory, Girl! (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 03:12 (one year ago) link

Update: Zach is a shy young man who is quite skilled at playing guitar, but needs encouragement to play live more. Fortunately he has fallen in with the right crowd.

My friends and I are collaboration sluts; if there is an unoccupied stage in the tri-state area we will contrive to put together a temp supergroup and make noises for anyone who will listen. The scene is vibrant.

she loves me like a rock lobster (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 3 April 2023 10:32 (one year ago) link

Can I object to the usage of sexual language to describe musical collaboration? This is the second time. The first time I thought about saying something but didn’t want to get into it. This time I’m saying something bc it’s language that conjures a type of human interaction that isn’t accurate/appropriate for the conversation and, for me, is strongly unwelcome. If someone described me like that I would be horrified. Not bc I’m prudish but bc that’s not what making music is about and there are other words. It’s also language used by people who aren’t hurt by language implying promiscuity.

In sum use other words please please please. That’s it I’m done. I’m glad you’re getting opportunity to play a lot. I wish I were!

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Monday, 3 April 2023 12:27 (one year ago) link

ll otm

slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Monday, 3 April 2023 13:26 (one year ago) link

Ok sorry, no intention to offend. I'll use other words in future and leave it there.

she loves me like a rock lobster (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 3 April 2023 13:43 (one year ago) link

I know you didn’t intend to offend. Thank you for using other words going forward and not telling me to fuck off!

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Monday, 3 April 2023 15:27 (one year ago) link

Happy to acknowledge that I'm fortunate to be in a thriving live music scene. It's also true that I am not picky.

Some evenings I'll find myself supporting an utter beginner, in an environment where everyone applauds every effort. One time an 11-year-old kid came in with approximately three chords; everyone was supportive. The next night we jammed with lthe bassist from Scream and the guitarist from one of Madonna's pre-fame bands.

I don't play every night but I could, and I am always delighted that it is such a smorgasbord.

she loves me like a rock lobster (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 3 April 2023 15:51 (one year ago) link

YMP, I live nearby. I’d love to workshop some songs with your crew. Might hit you up at some point

Heez, Monday, 3 April 2023 17:05 (one year ago) link

Any time, Heez.

she loves me like a rock lobster (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 3 April 2023 17:26 (one year ago) link

does anyone else, when they're working on new stuff, tend to get ahead of themselves and long to time travel to when a musical project is fully realized and available for other people to hear? my band made an album in 2018 and we were starting to write songs for a new album/ep/whatever in 2019 but then the pandemic happened and, since we're all a lot more inspired when we're playing in a room together, both the band and the music were kind of on hold for two years. now that we're playing more frequently, we've written about 6-7 really worthy songs, so during a recent week when i was sick and we couldn't practice, i sequenced our new EP, even though most of the songs didn't have complete lyrics or even vocal melodies. thankfully doing this has really focused us and we're finishing the remainder of the unfinished songs and starting to plot when and where and with whom to record (anyone who records with a band in the nyc area: recommendations???), but i felt so silly at the time even though i was also very very excited

anyway making music is the best thing in the world

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 3 April 2023 17:36 (one year ago) link

I miss playing with people so much

Heez, Monday, 3 April 2023 18:54 (one year ago) link


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