Anyone ever tried Miller Puckette's Pure data?

(ie too steep for me to bother.)

Guess I am looking for some modularity in my setup. Most likely some ways to edit drums into weirdness.

Thinking studio... that's definitely the focus. But I've definitely heard some of the effects I'm looking for coming from Max/MSP, so that's why I inquired about that specifically.

has anybody seen miller puckette live? i got a chance to see him tomorrow night, wondering if i should give it a shot.

i'd say go for the morbid reason that he might die someday, and then you'd have missed your chance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LCae4-Gvuc

sold out! amazing.

I got in the second night. he was playing with philippe manoury, it was awes.

Just saying I love PD

what r u up to in it?

this is nice if you're into this kind of stuff:

http://doc.gold.ac.uk/~ma801dp/blog/?p=40

i was really getting into pure data about a year ago, went to a quick workshop, was starting to look into the documentation for many of the little actions/commands. then, as usual, i got distracted by life and totally forgot everything. now i'm pretty much back back at square one.

my question is about resources and documentation (apart from the documentation built into Pd itself). last year, i was slowly working my way through this: http://www.pd-tutorial.com/english/index.html. is there anything better than that? useful videos, maybe? is there a good forum where you can ask ridiculously idiotic questions?

also, kind of a long shot, but if anyone has heard of people using pure data for visual things, i'd be really into that as well.

example of what i want to do:

i would really like to use arduino and pure data together to create some sort of automatic audio/visual machine that changes scales/keys/arpeggios based upon live input from sensors - time of day, temperature, amount of noise in the room, etc. in addition to the audio changing depending on the sensors, i would also have this sort of evolving animation loop that would incorporate different colors and patterns depending on various live factors.

there's a flickr group for puredata generated stuff. i also see lots of pd pictures in various generative and evolutionary art groups that i watch. no personal experience. vvvv looks very similar (to me) and is, i think, more graphic based.

ooh, thanks for the vvvv tip. i've never even heard of it, but maybe i'll check it out.

daaaaang, windows only :(

feel free to ask pd questions here

wrt to your project, break it down into chunks. the first thing i'd do is create a patch that does all the scales/keys/arprggios and have it output to a simple sine or something. if you struggle with it, let me know and i'll forward you some max/msp tutorial videos that'll get you moving in the right direction.

something that'll seem simple like using the 'amount of noise in the room' to control thangs- you'll discover is actually really difficult to do well. i'd research and mod somebody else's patch. the computer doesn't "hear" audio like a human so you'll want to play with windowing and filtering the sound to create different types of information to be interpreted by whatever is to be controlled. and then you'll probably later find there's an opcode built in that does it all for you. lol.

the video stuff in pd is good, get the impression you'll adore the type of effects that you'll first start to create - having seen your gifwork. ha.

anyway, sorry if any of that sounded patronising! i'm no pd expert at all but i kinda understand bits and pieces about digital audio and can prob point you in the right directions if you get stuck!

anyway good luck!

oh and i watched this a few months ago- miller puckette is cool as fuck imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLACjtOpe0Q

not patronizing at all! i was hoping that someone here could/would step up and say "i can answer questions." it gives me good inspiration to get back into this stuff. i'll try to do as much research as i can on my own, and save my questions for when i'm truly stuck.

this guy is so boring but his tutorials are easy to follow:

http://www.peterbatchelor.com/maxTuts.html

some of things you want to do are covered there and can be transferred to PD easy enough