Working FAST (somewhat related to NaSoAlMo)

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My gf is going to be out of town for the long weekend and I have very few plans, so I'm thinking about holing up in the practice space and recording a bunch of music very quickly. I've actually done this twice before; once ending up with an album's worth of listenable stuff that I was pretty proud of, once ending up with 4-5 "interesting" songs that aren't particularly good but were fun to experiment with. Does anyone else do this, just take a few days, go in with almost nothing prepared, and work really fast? It's a fun exercise. Please tell me about your experiences.

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

I did this last Christmas, and might try something similar this year. I was stuck in the city for Christmas day, and I was mostly just trying to counter any chance of boredom, so I set myself a project -- write and record five songs in one day -- and just barely made it. I still really like most of the results. And one of the nice things about electronic elements is that you have that capacity to go back and develop a track from the inside, instead of re-recording it.

This is pretty much the only way I've ever recorded in non-bedroom environments, too -- usually by borrowing my way into other people's space and equipment and then trying to knock something together in a weekend. I guess it's harder, in those cases, to build something into a song gradually (unless you're doing edits, or lots of re-recording), so there's less ability to be adding new ideas every time one strikes you -- but there's something so fun about being the only one in a big room with a bunch of equipment around you, especially if you're making time to crawl around plugging things in odd directions and making sounds you've never made before.

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

I guess it's harder, in those cases, to build something into a song gradually (unless you're doing edits, or lots of re-recording), so there's less ability to be adding new ideas every time one strikes you

Really? I think that's what's most fun about doing this: you finish one part, and then you automatically move on to the next part, thinking "What do I want to add now? Marimba? Maracas? Fuzz bass?" For me, it's all about those spur-of-the-moment decisions.

Once, when I was visiting my parents for a month for xmas break from college, I pledged to write and record (acoustic guitar & handheld tape recorder) a song a day for every day I was there. 95% of the songs were crap, but it was good discipline.

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

I also find it lots of fun to have songs sketched out -- like chords/melody/lyrics -- and then throw them together quickly, arranging them on the fly with whatever happens to be around. I have some things I like that were done this way years back; some bandmates left me the key to their place when they went away for a weekend, and I spent two days recording my songs with whatever items from their pile of gear seemed appropriate. (The best success was when I couldn't manage to get a string sample to work, so I just replayed the arrangement on nylon-string guitar -- it sounded fantastic.)

N/A: Yeah, I love that moving-on bit, how easily you can just add a layer to something, though I guess I get that from doing live recording on the computer, too. But what I mean is, well, say I'm messing around in the in-a-room sense and I find a good bass sound, and I want to record it -- maybe I'll make some kind of framework out of that and then lay it down. But then, three hours later, when I'm doing the marimbas -- if I suddenly get an idea that there should be a big key change somewhere, it's way harder to go back and alter that original framework to accommodate it. But I guess you guys have software in the studio, so you can edit fairly easily.

The main reason I think about this is that I'm a very lazy songwriter: if I find some sound I like, I'll just repeat it a lot. And if I'm excited about adding the fuzz bass next, I won't stop to write a bunch of fills or nuances into whatever gets recorded before that. So I like that computers give me the option to sketch those simple, repetitive outlines first, and then go back later to add complexity and changes and such.

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

Well actually the first time I did this is was on 8-track cassette, and so there's no going back and changing things easily. My philosophy is, you work fast, you make some mistakes, but the mistakes become part of the whole. You're stuck with what you get. Which I think is part of what made my "album" cool: I played drums on it, despite being a really bad drummer. So for each song, I would play a beat, and when I messed up, that would be where I transitioned to a different beat. If I sped up while playing, the song sped up. Everything was built around my inability to play drums properly. As a result, it ended up kind of math rock-y and weird in a good way.

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

It's becoming more and more obvious that fast and loose is the only way I play.

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

Haha!

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Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

I think this would be really fun to do.

My band did our newest album like this (arranging a bunch of tunes and recording them within the span of a few days), but that's a different thing. Not as low pressure or experimental.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

I like working really methodically as well as working quickly. For me the problem with working quickly is that I have to limit myself somewhat. Like, I have to pick a few pieces of equipment I'm "allowed" to use and then stay the hell away from the rest of it to avoid falling into the constant-tweaking trap. Some people like that about recording on PCs, and while I do think it's great to be able to perform powerful edits that would require a razor and tape in the past, it's a blessing and a curse.

I make editing/tracking rules too. As in, I'm only gonna record this guitar part a maximum of two times all the way through and then move on. If I can't pull it off in two takes (or one comped from those two), then I need to rearrange it to something I can play easily in the interest of speed. If other parts of the song need to change to fit with the new guitar part, they will.

And yes, I will cheat and play the guitar part three times if I just know I'm gonna nail it the third time, but again the guidelines are to keep me focused and keep me out of take-an-hour-to-try-every-effect-setting-on-this-one-2-second-riff.

I'm gonna be in this boat soon. I've written 12 songs for NaSoAlMo (though I need to clean up a couple of them and finish writing a few verses here and there), and I'm going home to my studio on the 25th. I'll have from the middle of the 25th through the end of the month to record everything I've written over the course of the past few weeks. I know I'm gonna err on the side of sparse arrangements for the sake of time, but I think it will be fun to focus on things like getting a good guitar sound for a simple me-and-guitar song instead of like spending a whole day arranging and programming a string section.

martin m. (mushrush), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

And mind you, a whole day on a string section is not unheard of for me.

martin m. (mushrush), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

A few years ago on Thanksgiving weekend I wrote and recorded (on a 4-track) an EP, which even though it sounds very "four-tracky" I still really love. I gave myself a whole weekend for the 5 songs, though, since it was Thanksgiving weekend and I had a few events to go to.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 21:12 (nineteen years ago)


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