Do you need a supercomputer to use plug-ins?!?!

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I assume not because everyone uses a zillion plug-ins. Here's my deal, I never really have and the other day was using Guitar Rig as a plug-in in Digital Performer 4.6, then, on another track, I added one of the built-in plug-ins and sure enough, Performer starts giving me "running out of processor juice" or whatever messages. What am I using? I have the first generation Mac G5 with 1gig of Ram. What's up? I used to sit in on sessions with friends using pro-tools on g3's running all kinds of plug-ins, focusrite, dinr, finalizer etc with no problems. Of course now that I think about it perhaps the Pro-Tools hardware did the work? I've got a MOTU 828 mk 2 but I don't think that's relevant.

Is it my mac? Is it Performer being a bitch? Maybe a preference in Performer set wrong? Is Guitar Rig particularly processor intensive(it is, effectively, several dozen plug-ins in one).

Any thoughts?

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 05:46 (nineteen years ago)

It might be a combination of guitar rig being a processor hog (although I haven't used it myself so I am not sure, but NI plugs usually take a lot of juice) and your settings needing a tweak. One thing that can cause the computer to run out of gas is when the latency is set very low -I don't use DP, but there is almost certainly a setting in the preferences where you can change the latency. Try making it longer -if it is really short (less than 256 samples for example) then the computer has to work a lot harder to process the audio fast enough. What you lose in making it longer though is immediacy -there will be a tiny gap between playing the note and hearing it. Also, if your hard drive is more than 75% full that will start to slow things down too, and you should quit all other programs -these things can take up a lot of RAM too.
As for Pro Tools, it has dedicated DSP cards that do all the work so that's why you can run it on more modest machines...

Conor (Conor), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

NI stuff loves to use your CPU, hell Guitar Rig won't even install on non Altivec Macs or none SSE2 Intel/AMD cpu machines.

If you want cheap cpu cycles AMD64 is the way to go.

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

I'm thinking my hard drive is way full, about to buy a new one, and it was the latency, I had the latency super short when recording, perhaps I didn't switch it back during playback. I can't play guitar clean then apply Guitar Rig when the effect is so crucial to what I'm playing. I definately had quit all my applications though.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

Number of plug-ins is pretty much a direct function of processor speed. Disk space has very little if anything to do with how many you can have working at once. (For plug-in instruments with samples, memory or disk space can make a difference, but for plain old effects processing plugs it really is mostly proc speed.)

martin m. (mushrush), Wednesday, 28 December 2005 21:35 (nineteen years ago)


"Disk space has very little if anything to do with how many you can have working at once"

-that is true, although my drive got to the brim recently and i really noticed a drop in performance, so I think it is a good idea to keep a decent chunk of space free.

Conor (Conor), Thursday, 29 December 2005 16:07 (nineteen years ago)


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