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what brand of guitar is this? (on the right)

http://citypaper.net/articles/031402/pics/arts.shoot.jpg

it looks familiar but i can't place it. mosrite?

― snakeshit ;] (eman), Friday, 24 February 2006 03:38 (nineteen years ago)

another p ic

http://www.eai.org/eai/images/content/pettibon.drone.jpg

― snakeshit ;] (eman), Friday, 24 February 2006 03:46 (nineteen years ago)

i'd say it looks like some breed of Danelectro/Silvertone.

― b mulvey, Friday, 24 February 2006 04:01 (nineteen years ago)

The shape is Danoesque, but the bridge and 'buckers say different. Pepperidge Farm?

http://www.pepperidgefarm.com/images/fun_snacks/goldfish_top_image.jpg

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Friday, 24 February 2006 04:55 (nineteen years ago)

the body shape and tailpiece and color is EXACTLY an old danelectro convertible

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-60s-Danelectro-convertible_W0QQitemZ7392192671QQcategoryZ33036QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

the pickguard and pickups however are throwing me.

― b mulvey, Friday, 24 February 2006 09:04 (nineteen years ago)

Headstock pictures? hmmm? The shape (even without visible branding) would make this easier...

― John Justen (johnjusten), Friday, 24 February 2006 09:17 (nineteen years ago)

It's a modified Dano.

― Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 24 February 2006 11:00 (nineteen years ago)

the body shape and tailpiece and color is EXACTLY an old danelectro convertible

not.. exactly. the two little goldfish tail things on either side of the neck stick out way further on the dano than in the guitar in those pics. the shape is similar though.

no headstock pics. i suck

― snakeshit ;] (eman), Friday, 24 February 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

I'm with Colin... It is most likely a modified Dano.

― martin m. (mushrush), Friday, 24 February 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

who is it EMAN!??!?

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 24 February 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

I think my brother saw Gear at the Saint Etienne show in Los Angeles.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 24 February 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

Just watched the "Sir Drone" video that this is from, and I think it's not modified but a stock Danelectro made from a leftover Convertible body. Don't forget that it was a cheap-o company, run very thriftily -- sometimes you'd get a body made in the 50s as part of the "new" guitar you bought in 1968 or something.

― Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 24 February 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

...another possibility is that it's a Fatdog special, assembled by the legendary hippy weirdo in Berkeley out of genuine Dano parts.

― Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 24 February 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

who is it EMAN!??!?

it's mike kelley (destroy all monsters) from pettibon's "sir drone" video (mike watt on bass next to him)

thanks Colin.

I think my brother saw Gear at the Saint Etienne show in Los Angeles.

WHO CARES, JHAYMC

― snakeshit ;] (eman), Friday, 24 February 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

JOEKS

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 24 February 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

...another possibility is that it's a Fatdog special, assembled by the legendary hippy weirdo in Berkeley out of genuine Dano parts.

maybe that would explain why he's like "it's a hippy guitar, dwayne. i can't get it to play new wave"

xp - oh right, the thread title. my "bad"

― snakeshit ;] (eman), Friday, 24 February 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

more challenging: spot the gear in these photos? particularly the little synth in the left pic

http://www.michaelrother.de/img/harmonia/600/Arbeitsplatz-Moebius-300dpi.jpg http://www.michaelrother.de/img/harmonia/600/Arbeitsplatz-Roedelius-300dpi.jpg

― snakeshit ;] (eman), Saturday, 25 February 2006 00:28 (nineteen years ago)

and what model farfisa is that two-tiered thing? i want one of those (if it's portable)

― snakeshit ;] (eman), Saturday, 25 February 2006 00:31 (nineteen years ago)

I wonder if that littel synth on the left is one of the ones I have heard of where you can see the sine wave of the soundwave in a little monitor, from the 60's. The name escapes me

― Mr Jones (Mr Jones), Saturday, 25 February 2006 05:28 (nineteen years ago)

That's a Fender Jazzmaster. The rest of that stuff confuses and upsets me.

― Colin Meeder (Mert), Saturday, 25 February 2006 10:33 (nineteen years ago)

Fairlight - thats it -

― Mr Jones (Mr Jones), Sunday, 26 February 2006 06:11 (nineteen years ago)

pretty sure that's not a fairlight, as those are bigger and the monitors for them are computer screen size.

― lil' flipper (eman), Monday, 27 February 2006 00:14 (nineteen years ago)

the fairlight didn't come out till like 82- the above is a circa 1971 shot of kraftwerk's gear... NONE of which is too recognizable, except i see what i think are tape delays, a couple mixers, and a couple organs.

― b mulvey, Monday, 27 February 2006 01:51 (nineteen years ago)

yeah they're definitely organs and not synths. somewhere in there are tone generators and that thing at the top with a big black dial on it looks like an oscillator (not kraftwerk btw, but moebius and roedelius from cluster/harmonia)

― lil' flipper (eman), Monday, 27 February 2006 02:08 (nineteen years ago)

i was thinking the big thing with a knob was one of those silver apples style oscillators.. and you're right about it not being kraftwerk, that was just a leap based on my weird copy of the first two kraftwerks has gear shots (!) and much of the gear looks very similar.

― b mulvey, Monday, 27 February 2006 02:23 (nineteen years ago)

Kraftwerk used a lot of homebuilt gear.

Also, you can take any synth and hook it up to an oscilloscope for that very cool "mad scientist" look.

― naus (Robert T), Monday, 27 February 2006 03:12 (nineteen years ago)

The Farfisa looks like a VIP 600, but I thought they were later than 1971? Don't know when though.

I have pawed at the similar-looking VIP 500 in real life (not mine, sadly) and the top bit was built like a tank; if you're less weedy than me, and you will be, you could lug it round if you needed to, but I wouldn't exactly call it portable.

― Rebecca (reb), Monday, 27 February 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

Michael Rother is playing in NYC soon, maybe somebody should take those photos and ask him.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 27 February 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

thx rebecca! thats def. the one. i think this may be a smaller more portable version

― lil' flipper (eman), Monday, 27 February 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

Looks like a good deal of that gear is made by Dynacord/Echolette. I think the Dynacord site says it bought Echolette in 1969 but my German's not good enough to be sure. Turns out that Kraftwerk did use a lot of this stuff too; I suppose it was much easier and cheaper to buy in Germany at the time than imported products.

I was bored and googled roedelius vip 600, which brought up a couple of confirmations that he did use one, including this page (in German) listing some of his gear: [very rough translation] an Echolette Drummer One drum machine, some modified Dynacord echo machines for modulation, an Echolette echo, a Resonar EQ, various effects pedals and units by Höfner, Schaller and Ibanez, an Echolette mixer with spring reverb, a Revox A77 for recording.

A few image-googles of those names brought up that the thing on the top left of Roedelius's gear (also in the bottom right of the middle shelf of Moebius's) is an Echolette E51 tape echo; this makes it clear that the logo on the mixer is Echolette, though I can't find one like it; just underneath R's E51 is a Dynacord Echocord Super 75, and there's another (or the same one?) on the left of M's, underneath the thing with a keyboard; the unit on the top right of M's looks nearly the same but with fewer knobs and outputs, and is an Echocord Mini; the unit under R's Super 75 looks the same but in a different colour, so maybe it's also an Echocord Mini, but all the pictures I can find are either like M's or all black. (Here's a useful page.)

And sheer fluke brought me to this page about the Davolisint monosynth, which looks just like the synth you asked about on the left. Maybe a little less cool now we can see that the bright patch on the left is not a screen but another set of buttons.

I need new hobbies. (I have been pretty Harmonia/Cluster-obsessed lately and not just looking for ways to kill time...)

― Rebecca (reb), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 02:49 (nineteen years ago)

Oops, paragraph spacing.

http://www.low-fi.co.uk/randomness/e51.jpg Echolette E51
http://www.low-fi.co.uk/randomness/echocordmini.jpg Dynacord Echocord Mini
http://www.low-fi.co.uk/randomness/super75.jpg Dynacord Echocord Super 75

― Rebecca (reb), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 02:59 (nineteen years ago)

amazing. i'm going to have to read all this later. those davolisint samples sound pretty cool. thanks again.

that just leaves those two things on the floor behind the foot pedals. maybe some sort of old multiple plug outlets/power supply? ok, last of my geeky questions

― lil' flipper (eman), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 06:47 (nineteen years ago)

"music taken up by Hans Joachim Roedelius. of 1973-1977 in forest in the Weser mountain country and 1979 in blumau, Lower Austria. "originate from farfisa the organ vip 600, now and then I sound the rhytmusmaschine more drummer one of echolette used, for modulation served modified dynacord echo devices, a echolette echo-turned out, resonar more equalizer, various effect pedals and boxes of more hoefner, more schaller and ibanez, a echolette mixer with feather-resound. for recording has I revox a77 used, which bandmateriel was usually used and besides I had often out to thriftiness-create with 9,5 cm/seconds take up, otherwise with 19cm/sec. one may the sounding quality of this record not to present kind of world measure, on the one hand, because the used comes equipment still from the first electronic music equipment generation and on the other hand, because there is really spontaneous musiken, kompositionsetueden under the impression of the lovely landscape vorm open windows in lauen sommernaechten, with the schnauben horses on feasted on the river, nightingale impact and froschgequake in the ear, in short all the special would stand around, for those this music it develop owed Hans joachim roedelius"

― lil' flipper (eman), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 06:49 (nineteen years ago)

er never mind, i see you already translated the good stuff from that

― lil' flipper (eman), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 06:56 (nineteen years ago)

Dynacord was a huge company, a sort of higher-end Peavey, until about the mid-80s. There still around, mostly concerting on PA stuff these days.

― Colin Meeder (Mert), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 08:51 (nineteen years ago)

Ohmigod, thanks, this thread. Last night I dreamed that I bought (in pieces) a set-up very much like the one above. It made the best sound ever! I had ages of fun plugging all the different bits in using different orders.

And then I got lost on the DLR home. :-(

― Boris and the Johnsons (kate), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 10:14 (nineteen years ago)

http://cgi.ebay.com/Dynacord-Echocord-Super-deluxe-model-tape-delay_W0QQitemZ7393782474QQcategoryZ41415QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

― lil' flipper (eman), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 03:29 (nineteen years ago)

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