What effects pedals should I get?

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In my last band, and so far in my current band, I have essentially played without effects, other than some light distortion. This was an aesthetic choice in my last band since we were kind of experimental rock music and I wanted to keep things really simple and unburdened, and since we had two guitarists, I didn't want a really overbearing guitar sound. But my new band is a three-piece, and so playing with just light distortion makes the guitar sound kind of thin and our overall sound a little light. We are a pop band. I'm open to experimenting with incorporating effects back into my style. I have a delay pedal, an assortment of distortion pedals, and a tremolo pedal already but haven't really been using them. I also use the amp reverb. What other fun effects should I consider getting?

na (Nick A.), Friday, 13 August 2004 13:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Chorus, Phaser, Tremolo-pan and Delay is what you really want.

Though the easiest way to fatten up the sound of a three-piece is actually to use two amps in stereo, with two different sets of effects pedals on them.

That's how we solved the 3-piece dilemma.

Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Friday, 13 August 2004 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmmm...Well, here's a question that's related to your suggestion: Sarah and I actually switch between guitar and bass, so we both play guitar at different times, but we each use our own guitars and play through seperate channels of the same amp. But if we were each to have our own set of effects pedals, it would just be mass confusion. How would we go about running two guitars into the same string of effects pedals? Just one of those cheapo Radio Shack two 1/4 inch plugs into one converters?

na (Nick A.), Friday, 13 August 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

sounds like you need a switcher box. check out guitargeek.com

kephm, Friday, 13 August 2004 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, you need a buffered switch box. why cant you just unplug the unused guitar? afraid of the nasty unplugging noise...?

AaronK (AaronK), Sunday, 15 August 2004 03:03 (twenty-one years ago)

kate that's an excellent idea.

57 7th (calstars), Friday, 20 August 2004 20:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Personally, I heart compression.

Matt (Matt), Sunday, 22 August 2004 23:45 (twenty-one years ago)

analog delay is the best!!!

I'm not a big fan of compression.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Compression is like ketchup.

Colin Meeder (Mert), Thursday, 2 September 2004 07:25 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...
what's a good overdrive pedal to get? and how's it different from distortion?

ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 10 November 2004 11:52 (twenty years ago)

Overdrive is kind of more subtle than distortion, it just makes the guitar sound a little crunchy. A lot of "distorion" pedals are more over-the-top and super-distoro. The ProCo Rat distortion pedal is a decent one, it's pretty cheap and has a good range of distortion. If you're really into the superdistorted sound, then the Big Muff is the pedal for you.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 11 November 2004 17:03 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
I got a wicked pedal with a gift certificate for Christmas, a MXR Phase 90. Having it set up directly behind my distortion pedal going into the amp, I was getting these over the top 70s lead guitar sounds. Beyond the hard phase shifting sound, it seemed to really push the sustain. This thing is alot of fun.

Earl Nash (earlnash), Friday, 31 December 2004 05:44 (twenty years ago)

Pedalwise, I use a delay and a phase shifter, not much else. I also use my amplifier's onboard chorus and reverb.

I have a dinky Digitech multi-effects box (RP100), but its effects sound a bit chilly and fake to my ear. It's useful as a tuner or for headphone-limited practice situations. Also situations when I don't know what manner of amp I'll be plugging into and want a simple all-in-one solution.

The Mad Puffin, Tuesday, 4 January 2005 19:22 (twenty years ago)

six years pass...

i've, semi-casually, studied classical guitar for about four years now. i just put it aside to play around with some rock guitar lessons. i'd like to buy a pedal-box, if that's the right term, to experiment with different things, e.g., delay, distortion, echo, other stuff i know but can't name. i'm bewildered by the number of choices and options, made worse by the fact that many of these pieces are bought piecemeal. i have no mechanical, put-it-together skills, so the piecemeal route is a virtually impossible path for me.

any recommendations for an all-in-one pedal box (with simple setup; guitar to box, box to amp), if such a thing exists, would be greatly appreciated.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 23 January 2011 18:31 (fourteen years ago)

all in one pedal boxes and multieffects usually sound like shit, and won't give you a good impression of what it's like to use an effects unit to manipulate and flavour your guitar sound. i think you're best off buying some cheap pedals to begin with, so that you don't have to flick through scroll through menus, which are unpleasant.

behringer make basic, decent stompboxes for about £20 each, they go a little up and down in price but you know. they're imitations of boss pedals, which are pretty much identical circuitry in a more robust housing. i've had plenty of fun with these cheap pedals and they can help you understand what each effect does before you go spending lots of money on better sounding more expensive equipment. they all have a similar layout so nothing is too confusing too, they aren't really instruction manual material.

http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/

also if you buy something like a pedal power pack/daisychain power link, you can power all the pedals off the same plug, saving both electricity and money for batteries and shit.

http://www.andertons.co.uk/power-supplies/pid9393/cid591/powerbank-dc9x-10-way-fx-pedal-power-supply.asp

hope that was useful enough,

jumpskins, Monday, 24 January 2011 11:37 (fourteen years ago)

one year passes...

any recommendations for bass distortion pedals? Something that I can get a good grindy midrange heavy distortion out of, preferably with a blend control, and hopefully not too expensive?

sleepingbag, Saturday, 28 January 2012 23:01 (thirteen years ago)

oh shit i have student loans

arby's, Sunday, 29 January 2012 06:17 (thirteen years ago)

Bass big muff is awesome.

blurgh (jjjusten), Sunday, 29 January 2012 06:22 (thirteen years ago)

cool, I like the regular Big Muff + the bass one is def. in my price range, I'll check it out

sleepingbag, Monday, 30 January 2012 00:19 (thirteen years ago)

slightly digressive pedal-related question:

I have a DOD stompbox and one of the nuts on the input jack broke off. I should just be able to run down to homedepot and pick up a 1/4" nut to replace it with, right?

beachville, Friday, 3 February 2012 16:57 (thirteen years ago)

If its a switchcraft #11 it should be a 3/8 and 32 tpi.

Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Friday, 3 February 2012 17:26 (thirteen years ago)

It def won't be 1/4" because that's the interior dimension - also you best bet might be a guitar store because that's a pretty odd thread taper and the nuts at home depot etc will prob be too thick. If the guitar store dude is stupid and says they don't have it, just buy the whole jack, shouldn't be more than $1.25

Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Friday, 3 February 2012 17:31 (thirteen years ago)

i'm looking at fuzz pedals. looking around for stuff like take flight goose fuzz and the fairfield circuitry four eyes fuzz, which have really cool features i don't see on a lotta pedals, but...idk about how they sound. :\

arby's, Friday, 3 February 2012 17:33 (thirteen years ago)

Thanks jjj.

beachville, Friday, 3 February 2012 17:44 (thirteen years ago)

xp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iGSQEenN6s
HOLY SHIT!!!

give me crack and polyfilla (snoball), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:08 (thirteen years ago)

"guitar phonograph simulator"

why

arby's, Friday, 3 February 2012 18:10 (thirteen years ago)

xpost yeah that thing is awesome. my only objection is it seems a little dry? i'm thinking i could work with it but idk

arby's, Friday, 3 February 2012 18:12 (thirteen years ago)

It needs a touch more treble for my tastes. Their 'Randy's Revenge' ring mod sounds incredible. Most guitar-centric ring mods are little more than novelty effects, but the RR sounds really usable.

xp re: 'guitar phonograph' this is the one time I'll say it, but that could be done by a VST plugin - specifically iZotope Vinyl.

give me crack and polyfilla (snoball), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:26 (thirteen years ago)

I'd probably pick the Goose though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5zTl61qv3E
The craziness seems a bit more under control, but can be dialed in when required. Currently out of production though.

give me crack and polyfilla (snoball), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:49 (thirteen years ago)

Also it can seemingly do drive/od/octave effects more easily/predicatably.

And I'm guessing that the 'dry' sound of the Four Eyes is because of the JFET gain stages tending to emphasise harmonics other than the 2nd.
http://www.geofex.com/Article_Folders/foolwfets/foolwfets.htm

Annnnnnnnnnnd that's nearly an hour spent just reading about fuzz pedals. I swear that those things can be like an addiction. Heaven help anyone who gets into building their own - breadboarding fuzz circuits really chews up time, and unlike sitting around noodling on a guitar, usually there isn't even a song or riff to show for it!

give me crack and polyfilla (snoball), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:54 (thirteen years ago)

yeah there's a goose staring at me on ebay me with a $150 price tag and i'm debating whether i should snag it or not. really i just want a bee baa + extra crazy knobs.

i've always wanted to dig into building pedals but i don't even have time for noodlilng on guitars anymore between school and work so that will probably just...never happen. (class was cancelled today or i wouldn't be on ilx at all).

arby's, Friday, 3 February 2012 19:02 (thirteen years ago)

lemme check with my pedal building dude and see if he has a moddable bee baa circuit in his bag of tricks

Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Friday, 3 February 2012 21:31 (thirteen years ago)

!!

YES DO THAT

arby's, Friday, 3 February 2012 21:39 (thirteen years ago)

We may have ideas for you, if you are in the cities tomorrow call me at work

Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Saturday, 4 February 2012 04:01 (thirteen years ago)

so here are the things we came up with that we could do

base circuit options:
bee baa clone
systech harmonic energizer
interfax harmonic percolator
modded fuzz factoryish thing

but to add some crazy we were thinking we could pretty easily either add a LDR (light dependent resistor/magic eye) in place of any of the otherwise knob based controls, or maybe a switchable feedback looper for a different kinda crazy

any thoughts?

Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Saturday, 4 February 2012 23:24 (thirteen years ago)

we had fun getting all mad scientist and cooking up that list today btw

for readymade stuff we do have 3 fuzz pedals already done and in the case, two variants of a one knob fuzz with switchable diode in/out (only diff is that one is silicon ($60) and one is germanium($70)) and a very slightly tweaked woolly mammothy thing which i think sounds pretty awes ($80)

all in plain box dimo labeled because hand painted is some bullshit imo

Thu'um gang (jjjusten), Saturday, 4 February 2012 23:31 (thirteen years ago)

My local guitar shop totally ripped me off on that 1/4" jack btw. I shoulda just amazon'd it, but I was already in there. Wish I was more of a dickering guy. Anyway, I finally got the nut. You were right about HD not having the part.

beachville, Saturday, 4 February 2012 23:49 (thirteen years ago)

The douchenozzle guit shop clerk:

http://www.baytunesguitars.com/proaudio/Images/Jeff_1.jpg

beachville, Saturday, 4 February 2012 23:55 (thirteen years ago)

And they sell PRS guitars? Take heed of the warning signs!

you know that I've been crunk a thousand times (snoball), Sunday, 5 February 2012 00:04 (thirteen years ago)

It is located next to my grocery store and therefore hard to resist popping in there when I need like, a 6" patch cord or 3 guitar picks or something.

Plus, I'm sure every shop in town sells PRS as they are hq'd in the next county over.

beachville, Sunday, 5 February 2012 00:12 (thirteen years ago)

"guitar phonograph simulator"

why

― arby's, Friday, February 3, 2012 10:10 AM

i too would like to understand this. like, it's a super cool pedal, but in what scenario, live or studio, would i want that effect on just my guitar track?

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Monday, 6 February 2012 05:10 (thirteen years ago)

From the youtube, it doesn't simulate crackle very well at all.

beachville, Monday, 6 February 2012 10:23 (thirteen years ago)

i have kind of a tenuous idea of what feedback loopers really do, no idea what they do built directly into a fuzz. i've never messed w/ one personally, and i only ever see noize dudes with nine other pedals connected and i'm not sure what i'd wind up with it built directly into harmonic percolator or bee baa?

re: the LDRs, so, i would be controlling a tone knob or something the same you might an optical theremin? i can see fun things here but maybe much functionality in live situations where my pedals are on the ground and i have two hands on a guitar?

for the base circuit i'm leaning toward the bee baa or the harmonic percolator. and shit i could use a harmonic energizer clone crazy mods or no.

arby's, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 00:24 (thirteen years ago)

When I was in third or fourth grade, we all gathered in the cafeteria for a puppet show about the dangers of drugs. The lead female puppet was a singer with a beautiful voice who wanted to sing in some talent show or something, but I think she was worried that she'd blow it. So this other puppet knows just the way to help her win - by cheating using an effects pedal - The Phaaaaaaase Shifter. She can't get enough of The Phase Shifter and she keeps dialing the knobs until it makes her sound really weird. I think in the end, she develops the courage to be herself and sing with her own natural, unmodulated voice and she wins the talent show.

A few years later in high school, I started smoking pot and eating acid, but I've always steered clear of phasers.

beachville, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 09:44 (thirteen years ago)

phasers + feedback imo

see also waylon

arby's, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 18:51 (thirteen years ago)

sorry been really busy, ummm. on my lunch break here. def leaning toward bee baa + feedback looper but still open to most any crazy shit tbh. most likely going to be in mpls on wednsday night? um. oookay class...

arby's, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 18:53 (thirteen years ago)


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