Can we have an ongoing Protools thread?

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My band just started using it last weekend and since it's kind of the Photoshop of recording, I thought it might be could to devote a IMM thread to it.

Some starter questions:

Is it possible to save takes within tracks? Before switching to Protools we used a D16 which allowed you several "banks" within each track that you could a/b later. I would assume that Protools has the same function, but we can't seem to find it anywhere within the manual guide that came with the hardware & software. Which leads me to the next question...

Can anyone recommend any Protools books or userguides?

Thanks.

darin (darin), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

Is it possible to save takes within tracks?

no, but if you find yourself running out of tracks you can set unused tracks to 'inactive' and theoretically build up as many takes as you want (but you will only - for the time being - be able to hear up to 32 voices at once)

electric sound of jim (and why not) (electricsound), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:04 (nineteen years ago)

i.e. that way you don't have to delete takes that you were not sure about

electric sound of jim (and why not) (electricsound), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:05 (nineteen years ago)

Cool, thanks!

darin (darin), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:51 (nineteen years ago)

Is it possible to save takes within tracks?
no

are you sure about that? i seem to recall that each track is equipped with a "takes" drop-down menu. that could be a TDM feature though, i can never remeber what works in le.

Pablo (Pablo A), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:56 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, the little button next to the track name, like so:
[thank you MS paint]

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a61/npope3001/protoolstdma.jpg

Pablo (Pablo A), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

That's some crazy automation.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:04 (nineteen years ago)

i don't know if it's exactly the same in LE, but it seems you're actually right. i've learned something today

Recording Additional Takes
After recording to an audio track, you can record
additional takes to the same track. However, if
you record these additional takes in Destructive
Record mode, the audio residing on your hard
drive from the previous takes will be permanently
lost.
To keep the audio from previous takes, record
the new takes nondestructively in Nondestructive
Record mode.
To nondestructively record a new take on the
same track:
1 Put Pro Tools in Nondestructive Record mode.
In the Operations menu, deselect Destructive
Record, Loop Record, QuickPunch or Track-
Punch if selected.
2 Make sure the track containing the previous
take is still record enabled.

3 To record from the beginning of the track,
click Return to Zero in the Transport window.
– or –
If Operations > Link Edit and Timeline Selection
is enabled, click anywhere in the track’s playlist
to begin recording from that point.
4 Click Record in the Transport window. When
you are ready to begin recording, click Play.
5 When you have finished recording, click Stop
in the Transport window.
An audio file for the new take is written to disk
and appears as an audio region in the track’s
playlist. The new audio region appears in the
Audio Regions List.
The audio from the original take remains on
your hard drive, and is still available as a region
in the Audio Regions List.

electric sound of jim (and why not) (electricsound), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:06 (nineteen years ago)

that's right!!! and i think you can scroll through different takes of the same region with an mouse click the use of a quick key.

Pablo (Pablo A), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:09 (nineteen years ago)

Even better! I knew there had to be some way to do it. Thanks again, guys. This looks likes it pretty much addresses my punch-in concerns as well.

darin (darin), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:54 (nineteen years ago)

favorite keyboard commands

option + A = zoom out to view entire session
option + F = zoom in to view current selection fullscreen
apple + [ ] = zoom in and out
option + shift + 3 = consolidate
tab & option+tab = forward / backward to region boundries, or transients when "tab to transient" is selected

milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 10 March 2006 00:21 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...
Another question: We imported a short approx. 1 sec. sample into a song and want to lock it in with the drum track and loop it. However the drums were recorded without a click. The time is steady though. But the sample is a bit faster than the drums. What is the easiest way to loop the sample and get it in time with the drums? Should we be using another app besides Pro Tools to do this? Thanks all.

righteousmaelstrom (righteousmaelstrom), Monday, 10 April 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

ive never used protools, but this is a piece of cake with ableton Live...you may be able to DL a demo copy of it from their website.

AaronK (AaronK), Monday, 10 April 2006 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

If you want to do it manually, just figure out how many beats the sample is supposed to take up, see how much time that takes up at the tempo the song's going, and then timestretch the sample to that amount.

Eppy (Eppy), Monday, 10 April 2006 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

on PT 6.0 and later:

go to the Trim Tool chiclet (the one directly to the right of the magnifying glass at the top bar) -- click and hold until you get the drop down menu and choose TCE instead of Standard.

now when you expand the left or right edge of a region, it'll stretch it to the length that you desire.

so if you line up the region to the exact edge of a 4 bar loop, just stretch the right side of the region until it lines up exactly. then, cut and paste out the new region.

each time you do this, you affect the fidelity slightly; it's no problem the first time, but if you time-stretch something you've already timestretched again and again, it starts to sound raspy. so if you don't get it right the first time, undo and try again.

milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 10 April 2006 21:13 (nineteen years ago)

i would add that if your drum track is not extremely precise that you'll have to repeat the steps above for each instance of the sample. you will not be able to simply cut and paste your first time-stretched version.

Pablo (Pablo A), Monday, 10 April 2006 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

yes, or carefully repaste & reallign

it's meticulous work. pro tools gives you total control, but most people simply want 4/4 without having to think about it. most of those people probably want ableton live.

milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 10 April 2006 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks again. We'll probably use the timestretch feature, or slice up the sample and sync up the new regions to the drum track.

Unfortunately, the Ableton Live demo does not allow you to save or export audio.

righteousmaelstrom (righteousmaelstrom), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 13:26 (nineteen years ago)

>slice up the sample and sync up the new regions to the drum track.

this is what I usually do myself

you know about the tab to transient feature? (it's the little chicklet next to the 'a...z' chicklet, beneath the 1-5 zoom keys -- when it's clicked on, and you tab within a region, it takes you to the next transient / drum impact)

milton parker (Jon L), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

four months pass...
Without any plug-ins, is there a way to reverse the signals of particular tracks in Protools for a backwards effect? While we're at it, how about speeding up and slowing down individual tracks?

Thanks!

darin (darin), Friday, 8 September 2006 06:17 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, you can do all of those. Too bad I'm in Chicago for T&G 25 and the Mac is at home where I could crank up PT and say exactly how.

Shoes say, yeah, no hands clap your good bra. (goodbra), Saturday, 9 September 2006 04:10 (eighteen years ago)

Well, if you get a chance at a later date that would be much appreciated!!!

Do you remember which menu bar this stuff might be located under?

darin (darin), Saturday, 9 September 2006 05:26 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.digidesign.com/index.cfm?langid=100&itemid=4954&ref=xform-fhp

capt thinking (Pablo A), Saturday, 9 September 2006 19:48 (eighteen years ago)

To answer the question from a long time ago at the beginning of the thread:

Click on the arrow to the right of the track name in the edit window, select "New playlist," name your new playlist, and then record. Use the drop-down menu to switch between takes.

Without any plug-ins, is there a way to reverse the signals of particular tracks in Protools for a backwards effect? While we're at it, how about speeding up and slowing down individual tracks?

It usually ships with some plugins, doesn't it? I know there's a way to do this in the setup I use, it's under one of the drop down menus. I think the menu is called "Audiosuite." You can (destructively) do a bunch of stuff like reverse the audio, add/subtract gain, etc. I don't know if that's a default feature or what. You could always do it with Audacity.

Steve Go1dberg (Steve Schneeberg), Monday, 11 September 2006 04:04 (eighteen years ago)

otm

capt thinking (Pablo A), Monday, 11 September 2006 04:08 (eighteen years ago)

three years pass...

i just installed, very excited. question regarding sound loops -- do i just drag them into projects off the cd? should i copy them to my hard drive?

Do you love me now? (surm), Saturday, 9 January 2010 15:13 (fifteen years ago)

you need to import them to your region list, which you can do from the cd. you'll be asked where on your hard drive you want to save them - usually within the project folder. then you can drag them into the edit window from the region list

journey to the center of fat butt (electricsound), Sunday, 10 January 2010 07:44 (fifteen years ago)


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