certain dub sound....how to create?

how about that delay effect where instead of fading off after the initial signal, it swells/gets louder?

OK I just found a clip of the Chicken Lips remix. Next time please post an audio sample and a point out which sound you're referring to.

If it's the farty squbbly sound then try getting a freeware vsti called Cosmo Girl II and there's a couple patches in there that'll do it.

There's also a freeware vst called Vintager that can produce that sound, and one called LFObia Mocheese, and one called Arppe2600va, and Arch Avenger Pro, and many more. You'll find the similar sounds in there and then it's just a matter of tweaking the shape and frequency of the LFO to get the sound you want.

and the delay effect is from using a tape delay with a lot of feedback. Dub Delay and arcDev DubbBox are both free and both do this.

If you want self-oscillating/feedbacky dub delay, get a delay unit or plugin with filters on the delay lines and experiment with cranking up the feedback amount, resonance, and frequency/cutoff.

thanks. i've tried using the semi-shitty factory plugins in cubase and haven't been able to replicate quite the effect i'm going for, but i'll try those other ones.

how about that delay effect where instead of fading off after the initial signal, it swells/gets louder?

you know I know it sucks to have to admit that 2009 can't automate everything from 1981 but you do this with your hand.

If you were working in analog you wouldn't ask the question so I'll just explain it for digital - take the dry-wet and/or the feedback variable for your chosen channel and just draw an escalating envelope for it, kind of how, you know, you would do it with your hand, on a knob.

thanks and happy new year,

I mean seriously the whole point of those old record reviews where they talk about how Scientist made the mixing board his instrument, they really meant that he was changing the levels with his fingers. Sorry to be kind of a dick.

yeah i'm not sure i can do that on my old-ass software.

i should just borrow some delay pedals from a guitarist bro.

xp, dude i know, i should have specified that my problem is doing it digitally. sorry i don't have an analog board in my living room.

it really boils down to changing the mix of AUX B with your hand, for real. I've done it. Shit's real.

what software are you using?

Hardman Version

oh that's good. with Hardman you can just give your monitor the double deuce and pretty much any effect you want comes out of the speakers

LOL WHATS THE DOBLE DEUCE YIKES ANYWAYS, THE KEY IS THE CURVES--ENVELOPE MODULATION

an album title just happened to me and I don't know how to deal

SAME

cubase sx

:/

honestly maybe i'm just not using it to its full capabilities, but basically nothing i do in it is real time

ok I've never used cubase, and that has been on purpose, but if you can program a control change on an effect from one level to another over time, that's how you do this; once again sorry I can't be more specific but, uh, yeah

what the hell kind of response is it when someone asks, hypothetically, 'how does one make that sound' and the response is essentially 'i think you're lazy or disingenuous for not keeping it real and building your own audio workstation out of coconuts like some guy did in the middle of the Caribbean thirty years ago'

an honest response that addresses the issue at hand

what kind of response is it when somebody asks "I want to make this noise" and you go "the fuck I know about anything but here are some other noises you can make if you slap my limp dong against a condenser mic fed into a roland suckchamber"

oh I'm going to have to work on that that was somethingawful F- lame; apologies

anyway you have to caress it with your hand is the lesson

okay i have done some research, i am going to try some plugin automation when i get home tonight

wait, can't you make that noise by having the feedback on a tape delay at an unusually high level until the signal distorts and "swells"? pretty sure that's what you mean

when i crank up the feedback on a plugin it doesn't really swell in a cool way, just kind of plays at the same level forever without feeding back. maybe if i line up a couple delays in a row...

you can do this with any analog or simulated analog delay, doesn't even have to be a tape delay.

do you have any analog delay plugins?

(TBH, i am kind of with tom on this in the sense that knob twiddling this is going to be much easier than properly setting some sort of envelope curve, but then again i am dorky analog guy so eh?)

hey guys, thanks. i figured out for the first time last night how to do effects plugin automation, ie i twiddle the knob on the screen in real time and then it records that motion at that point in the song. i feel pretty dumb for never doing this before.

also i still couldn't get the right sound by cranking the feedback on the basic cubase delay, but i downloaded that arcdev dub box and got exactly what i was looking for.

imm, people (and hardmen) helping people.

I'll go ahead and repeat myself:

"...and the delay effect is from using a tape delay with a lot of feedback. Dub Delay and arcDev DubbBox are both free (VSTs) and both do this."

i'll go ahead and repeat myself:

"...but i downloaded that arcdev dub box and got exactly what i was looking for."

Certain Dub Sound's How To Create is my 2009 album of the year

anyway I am glad this thread had a happy ending after I was a big drunkity bully all over it.

Certain Dub Sound's How To Create is my 2009 album of the year

the moment between when i read this and when i realised what i was reading was weirdly beautiful

btw i also found out that cubase likes to start some shit after i start adding effects automations, like refusing to undo normal actions and crashing. my workaround is to twiddle the knobs, then export/re-import that part (and remove the effects/automation from the track).

Oops you got it. And I was frustrated that other people weren't reading. Welp, I'm a hypocrite. I'm glad you found what you're looking for. That dub box is nice because it has a nice reverb built in.

The other thing you might consider getting is a convolution plugin and some spring reverb impulses. That's the dub reverb, that drippy artificial reverb sound.