TS - Recording: Cubasae vs Logic vs Digital Performer vs Pro Tools

woo pro tools 8 is out

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I just started using Cubase Studio 4 (upgraded to 4.5). It's really good, but then again, I probably use < 10% of the features. My workflow is as follows: record synths/drum machines as MIDI, edit the notes/arrange the tracks, run the MIDI back out to the machines and record the audio, one track at a time. The built-in effects work fine for what I do, and the only VSTi that I use is Battery 3.

Ver. 5 is coming out this month, but it won't run on my circa 2005 Powerbook, and offers nothing I would ever use anyway.

what are people's thoughts on Nuendo? Most of my pals use it, but it rarely gets mentioned as a DAW. I've just booted it up and it'#s not bad, but then I've been using Acid to sequence tracks so far. Worthwhile, or better to use something else?

I need a replacement for Cubase - something that can record live tracks and play nice with Reason - plus give me the kind of soundwave editing capabilities that I need.

I ffffing love Cubase and would love to continue using it, but it just does not work on this laptop, and cannot justify spending £1000 to get a new laptop just to run it.

i need help choosing a new system.

thusfar i've only used garageband. i record off my keyboard, a lot of vocals, and i edit a lot/lots of effects.

i'd like instrument/percussion pre-set abilities as well -- in fact, i might use these a lot. but i'm not very smart when it comes to deciphering a bunch of jargon.

what do i get?

logic. it does basically everything you want it to, and comes bundled with some pretty good soft synths and very good vst effects. and once you start getting into the environment features it becomes very powerful. plus it's compatible with most of garageband's features.

the only complaint i have is that logic 8 can be quite buggy, a small price to pay for software that does practically everything and anything. you just have to learn to be patient and treat it with care and it'll work fine.

awesome, this is kind of what i've gathered.

but do you mean, buggy as in it will delete my data? i can deal with some bugs, as long as my stuff isn't ruined

actually, you know what, FUCK LOGIC.

it is so fucking buggy. i've been working on this track over the last couple of days, everytime it crashes and i restart, the midi channels have reset themselves and decided not to send anything out anymore, mixer channels suddenly decide to stop sending out any audio whatsoever, seriously fuck this piece of fucking shit software. i am literally fuming right now to the point of throwing my laptop against the fucking wall.

ok see? i can't do that

no. pro tools i guess

i am happy to accept that this is a problem with my system. it's less than a year old, with more than enough of the specs required to run logic. and it's not like i am doing anything particularly taxing on the cpu, just a couple of midi channels and the rest is audio i've recorded. how can they get away with this shit?

honestly that sounds like a nightmare.

i just went through my folders and deleted everything i ever recorded with logic. gone. i know i will regret this in the morning but in the words of joe crow "got to move on some time, and it's about time"

omg wau

i just learned how to use logic. seems pretty easy/cool.

just got it too, kinda nervous

(got a free copy)

finally got PT8 up and running, like it so far. the soft piano that comes with it actually sounds pretty good and i'm v hard to please when it comes to this sort of thing. haven't had a chance to try out any of the elastic pitch & time stuff yet though.

oh and anyone who has a convolution reverb plug needs to download these immediately: http://rekkerd.org/acousticas-releases-bricasti-m7-irs/

did i say immediately? do it NOW

Great stuff, thanks!

Adobe Audition???

I know zilch about digital recording/editing. But no one mentioned it here. Thought I'd ask.

love love love audition for editing stereo wavs

have never used it as a multitrack but i know people who have done so successfully..

Ok, I just demo'ed Record by Propellerheads and I don't get it. What were they thinking?!

elucidate

It's like Reason, only with audio. So the controls, the editing approach, everything, it's just Reason, same goofy fx, weird workflow, etc! And I like Reason alot, most of our first album was done on it. BUT you'd think that they'd make it easier, for example, to futz with samples (e.g. drag and drop in) or AU's or... pick your poison. But instead, it's as if someone bolted on an audio tracker into Reason with all of its soft synth-ness. So like on Eq you have these fiddly knobs without the fine control over frequency you get with any other DAW. That said, I love the sound of the faux-SSL mixer, but other than that, I kinda wish they'd put more thought into it.

that all sounds reasonable.. tbh i'd be less 'what were they thinking' as much as 'i hope they have bigger plans for v2' - i like what it does but yeah there are limitations that are problematic from both sides. if they were trying to find a midground between PT and Live they've slightly missed the mark but that's not to say they won't get there

Yeah, for me, it's both "what were they thinking" and "i hoped for more"--i like reason alot, so it's hard for me to figure out the purpose of this program vs. logic + live. nothing this does is that much better, so why make it at all?

pro tools 9 is out motherfuckers

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fuck off pro tools

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Ableton Studio CMON

whoaaaa im trippin my 4-track into a frenzy of lofi play