The really great thing is I just recently joined this group and all the tour legwork has been done. I've gotten plenty of advice already, but more is welcome.
The only thing I'm concerned about so far is that we have no contacts in any of the cities we're hitting... so we're relying on the kindness of strangers to put us up.
tour thread begins!
― DR. FRANK EINSTEIN PHD (cprek), Thursday, 6 October 2005 18:33 (nineteen years ago)
The band is Warmer Mi1ks and we're touring w/ Six Organs of Admittance + Hush Arbour.
Mon Oct 10, Buffalo, NY - SoundlabTues Oct 11, Cleveland, OH - Beachland BallroomWed Oct 12, Dearborn, MI - Stormy RecordsThurs Oct 13, Bloomington, IN - The ChurchFri Oct 14, Columbia, MO - Rag Tag CinemaSat Oct 15, Lexington, KY - Uni of KY Memorial Hall Ampitheater
― DR. FRANK EINSTEIN PHD (cprek), Thursday, 6 October 2005 18:36 (nineteen years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 6 October 2005 18:37 (nineteen years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 6 October 2005 18:38 (nineteen years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 6 October 2005 18:38 (nineteen years ago)
― DR. FRANK EINSTEIN PHD (cprek), Thursday, 6 October 2005 18:41 (nineteen years ago)
― John Justen (johnjusten), Thursday, 6 October 2005 19:59 (nineteen years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 6 October 2005 20:06 (nineteen years ago)
Touring is completely great (booking a tour is not) (this is possibly less true when it's full-time) even if all the shows go badly. I am annoyed and sad and frustrated that I've done so little of it.
― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 6 October 2005 22:29 (nineteen years ago)
Otherwise, (and I find this really hard to do in practice) try to plan cool things to do on at least a couple of days -- either wake up early to do something in the town you're already in or wake up early, leave, and get to the next town early to do something. Otherwise you'll just stay up drinking every night, wake up feeling shitty, leave late, and just get to the gig in time.
Exercise is also not a bad idea - long hours in the car plus lots of fast food equals quick deterioration in the way you feel.
Have fun! Like Casuistry, I've only toured a little and would really like to do it more.
― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 6 October 2005 23:32 (nineteen years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 7 October 2005 01:40 (nineteen years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 7 October 2005 01:50 (nineteen years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 7 October 2005 01:56 (nineteen years ago)
have a wicked time! i'm soo fucking jealous :)
― john clarkson, Friday, 7 October 2005 10:54 (nineteen years ago)
Mind you, this was a band with three (moderately) hott chicks in it.
― Paranoid Spice (kate), Friday, 7 October 2005 11:15 (nineteen years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 7 October 2005 13:06 (nineteen years ago)
Good advice all around. Right now it's a scramble to get everything ready. I'm glad I had today off in order to get stuff taken care of.
The amphitheater is big outdoor greek style amphitheater. Basically a big bowl carved into the ground with a stone stage at the center. We've played there once before. It's difficult because there is no PA and absorbs all the sound which is a big problem if there are lots of folks in the band. (which is the case)
― DR. FRANK EINSTEIN PHD (cprek), Friday, 7 October 2005 19:33 (nineteen years ago)
― Old School (sexyDancer), Friday, 7 October 2005 19:36 (nineteen years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 7 October 2005 20:14 (nineteen years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 7 October 2005 21:49 (nineteen years ago)
― Old School (sexyDancer), Friday, 7 October 2005 21:52 (nineteen years ago)
if you only stay in hotels, they will eat up any money you actually make during the tour. your best bet is to crash at people's places. first, email anyone you might know in these cities. failing that, post to your myspace/friendster accounts about needing places to crash. ask your friends to forward this information. if you still dont get any leads, kindly ask from the stage at the end of your performance.
if someone offers, do your best to gauge whether they'd be a good person to say with. ask them if the place can accompany X [X = # number of bandmates - 1; reasoning below] number of bandmates and if they have roommates. ive heard weird stories about bands staying with people who live with their parents/grandparents/etc, so you might want to avoid that kind of situation. ask them if they have to get up early for work the next day, which might make your morning logistics easier or not, depending on the situation.
always make one bandmate sleep in the van for security reasons, even if you're staying in a nice neighborhood. rotate the responsibility during the tour. make sure they have sufficient blanketing to stay warm throughout the night. dont forget to wake them up the next morning so they can use the bathroom/eat/etc.
assign one bandmate to be responsible for getting the band up on time. this is sometimes harder than it looks because you will have been up late boozing it up the night before. do not give this task to habitual oversleeper or you will be screwed. [i always set my alarm clock to help the bands out just in case.]
be a good houseguest. i know this sounds obvious but man, have i heard some nightmare stories yet luckily never encountered any. in short: bring your own toiletries, dont leave the place a bloody mess for your host and above all, BE NICE TO THEM. unless they are mean to you and in that case, just try to get out of the place as soon as possible.
i try to be a good host to the bands that stay with me. my place isnt huge but its clean and i always try to give the bands some sort of non-fast food breakfast [usually bagels, fruit, juice and coffee]. if they feel like watching TV or browsing the internet [make sure not to save your passwords on their machines, fyi], they're more than welcome to.
― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 13 October 2005 21:27 (nineteen years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 14 October 2005 02:59 (nineteen years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 14 October 2005 03:21 (nineteen years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 14 October 2005 04:31 (nineteen years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 14 October 2005 04:32 (nineteen years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 14 October 2005 05:41 (nineteen years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 14 October 2005 05:52 (nineteen years ago)
― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Friday, 14 October 2005 15:32 (nineteen years ago)
also, laptop with wireless access is an invaluable tool.
― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Friday, 14 October 2005 15:33 (nineteen years ago)
Ha, actually I DO now, but we haven't toured (or gigged for that matter) yet, so maybe I'll be changing my tune.
I think crashing with good friends or family is cool, but something about asking people, who probably weren't planning on having a bunch of dirty musicians sleeping over, for a place to stay rubs me the wrong way. If it's a culture where this is standard after-show procedure, then I guess that's different.
― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 14 October 2005 15:44 (nineteen years ago)
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 14 October 2005 15:50 (nineteen years ago)
― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Friday, 14 October 2005 15:52 (nineteen years ago)
― Gold star for robotboy! (Chris Piuma), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:57 (nineteen years ago)
― k/l (Ken L), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:58 (nineteen years ago)
xpost: I don't!
― Gold star for robotboy! (Chris Piuma), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:59 (nineteen years ago)
― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Saturday, 15 October 2005 13:18 (nineteen years ago)
― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Saturday, 15 October 2005 17:14 (nineteen years ago)
i like the 'don't eat, don't sleep' advice above, but i'd like to add a few things: steal shit whenever possible (not from hosts, duh, but from stores), get some good 'return scams' going, and it is very possible, easy even, to sneak into hotels after people check out super early. My band has actually gotten hours of 'hotel sleep' by just walking in.
sleeping outside never all it's cracked up to be. seems like a great idea in the daytime, but after you've packed up the van, the very idea of settling down on the grass or a rooftop somewhere usually makes for a cranky next day
do you know what table scoring is? Do that if you're not grossed out by the idea of it. I don't do it but the rest of the band does
Siphoning gas used to be a good idea, but with gas prices what they are, it's grounds for murder now in certain places. Don't get shot over a tank of gas.
treat yourself to the occasional hotel, ice cream, and bag of cocaine. These things help even out the 'sorry there's no money,' the 'soundguy is drunk,' the 'Cat Power is playing down the block and Little Wings across the street' and my personal favorite, 'one drink ticket per member.' Like, fuck you, asshole, you know??
Have a good time. I think your 7" is killer.
― Roger Fidelity (Roger Fidelity), Saturday, 15 October 2005 19:11 (nineteen years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Saturday, 15 October 2005 21:10 (nineteen years ago)
― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Saturday, 15 October 2005 22:01 (nineteen years ago)
― k/l (Ken L), Saturday, 15 October 2005 23:01 (nineteen years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Saturday, 15 October 2005 23:17 (nineteen years ago)
Finding places to stay was not hard at all. We only ran into trouble in Cleveland, and that was a bad scene all around. And in Buffalo a beautiful French girl took us in, which was great.
We are probably going to try for another tour at the end of December so that we've got three short tours done in a six month period.
― DR. FRANK EINSTEIN PHD (cprek), Monday, 17 October 2005 14:40 (nineteen years ago)
― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Monday, 17 October 2005 17:08 (nineteen years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 17 October 2005 20:59 (nineteen years ago)
We plan thusly:
ReykjavikBelfast Dublin (horrible, likely to be crossed out)Glasgow (people be really nice and shit)EdinburghLiverpoolManchester (feel like a shred of driftwood)Oxford (does this count as college town lol)BirminghamLondonCardiff (looks like worse and worse idea, likely crossed out)ParisBrusselsAmsterdamHamburg (beat1es fans roffle how do i coiffed moptop)
― RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Saturday, 8 July 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)
― beeble (beeble), Saturday, 8 July 2006 21:34 (nineteen years ago)
does it seem wise to play more than one night in london? there's so much going on...what a bag of worms.
― RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 19:16 (nineteen years ago)
― RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 16:57 (nineteen years ago)