Professional Envy

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Do you ever feel (rationally or irrationally) envious of the accomplishments of bands you know (personally, or through the scene, or whatever)?

If you do, how do you deal with it?

Does it make a difference if you feel these accomplishments are "deserved" or not? Or does it make a difference whether they are "nice guys" about it, or does (relative) success make all colleagues seem horrible, even though they may not changed?

Do we always hate it when our friends become famous?

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 16:45 (seventeen years ago)

No, I am happy genuinely happy for them as long as they are my friends. Also, good connections for the future. :>

Jordan, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 17:04 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, but what about that quasi-grey area of scene friends that aren't really personal friends?

Do you never feel competative? Or rather, compare yourself negatively when you don't feel yourself measuring up? Or is that just me beating myself up again.

I don't think "connections" have ever worked that way for me. :-(

Masonic Boom, Tuesday, 19 June 2007 17:10 (seventeen years ago)

not really. i don't work hard enough on being successful to justify real envy

electricsound, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 08:17 (seventeen years ago)

The good bands I know, who are doing (relatively) really well for themselves, just make me think I need to pull my socks up and really make an effort (as I write this neither of my bands have been together in a room for at least 4 weeks in one case, and over 2 months for the other).
The bands I'm sort-of friends with, but that I don't actually like their music, but are still doing well for themselves, I'm more jealous of I think. But I console myself that they're not really very good, and that we're lazy, so that's why it seems that they're doing well, but they'll get found out eventually.

Bocken Social Scene, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 10:16 (seventeen years ago)

I only get jealous of a band I know that's doing well when I don't think they're good.

Hurting 2, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 14:29 (seventeen years ago)

I totally get jealous of other bands, even ones that I like or am friends with.

n/a, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 14:47 (seventeen years ago)

OK, phew, now I feel like less of a freak. I'm jealous of everyone.

Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 15:26 (seventeen years ago)

I guess the exception is if the band is in a totally different genre/style. Like I'm not really jealous of Jordan's brass band's success, though I do wish I got invited to play shows in Switzerland.

n/a, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 16:13 (seventeen years ago)

Anyways, I think this is pretty natural. If your friend's band is opening a show that you want to open, the fact that you are friends with them means that they are on the same level as you, so it's like "why aren't WE opening this show?" It's not about wanting your friends to fail or NOT have the show, at least not for me.

n/a, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 16:15 (seventeen years ago)

Indeed.

St3ve Go1db3rg, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 17:37 (seventeen years ago)

Bocken OTM upthread about friend's successes as motivator. Some friends of mine just passed through town and played one of the best shows I've seen them do in a long time. I'm completely happy for them, but the side-effect is that they've kicked my behind into writing better material, practicing more and staying away from any distractions that keep me from doing that.

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 20 June 2007 19:51 (seventeen years ago)

I guess I just don't get that sensation, because it's not like I don't work hard at the music thing 90% of the time.

But if I get one more message from a friend's band saying that they're playing Glastonbury or Truck or Meltdown, wah-hey, I'm going to freaking go into meltdown myself. :-(

I guess my jealousy is exacerbated by the feeling that my band has got to a certain level several times, and then totally blown it in one way or another. But that's another thread topic.

Masonic Boom, Thursday, 21 June 2007 10:54 (seventeen years ago)

Now you're talking

Hurting 2, Friday, 22 June 2007 04:49 (seventeen years ago)

xpost Actually, I AM a little bit jealous of Jordan because he gets to gig all the time and it seems like his bands actually make some money!

Hurting 2, Friday, 22 June 2007 04:51 (seventeen years ago)

five years pass...

Friend's success....makes some people want to be anything but! I mean, sometimes you can see other people's preoccupation with someone's success...and it doesn't look pretty. Being exposed to the small-mindedness and inadequacy of others makes you want to take some quiet office job. Like, I don't even perform in public and haven't for years, because of how weird and awkward some people are about "talent".

โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka And The Moon Rose Over An Open Field... (Mount Cleaners), Friday, 4 January 2013 18:12 (twelve years ago)


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