HOW DO I SHOT NEW DRUMMER?

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Anyone in the Boston area know a drummer who wants to play with a band about to self-release a CD?

HI DERE, Wednesday, 21 November 2007 04:17 (seventeen years ago) link

ten months pass...

oh fuck

gig's on saturday, had our first all-band rehearsal today

and oh my fucking god

i'm sharing a rhythm section with a certified clown

guitarist wants to pull out, frontman merely pulling his hair out, this guy can't even keep time or lay down a simple hi-hat shuffle

i mean the drum intro on "bring it on home" confused him so much he got it wrong around 30 times before giving up, each time going "Sorrysorrysorrysorry let's do it one more time, just one more time and I'll get it"

this is a GROWN MAN

his interpretation of the intro to "smells like teen spirit" sounded like a hippo trying to organise a fridge

who'd be a fucking bassist

i mean he even OWNS HIS OWN STUDIO FOR FUCK'S SAKE

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 00:52 (sixteen years ago) link

his interpretation of the intro to "smells like teen spirit" sounded like a hippo trying to organise a fridge

lol

a passion for posting (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 00:54 (sixteen years ago) link

why the hell did you book a gig before the band had even rehearsed together???

studio ownership is certainly no guarantee of musical competence, as muggins here demonstrates every time he picks up a guitar

jonty alouette (electricsound), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 01:03 (sixteen years ago) link

ALSO, YOU COLOSSAL DICKWEED, THE ENTIRE POINT OF PLAYING JIMI HENDRIX'S MAGNIFICENT SONG "FIRE" IS SO YOU, YES YOU, THE MAN HOLDING THE TWO STICKS IN HIS PATHETIC MALCOORDINATED LITTLE PAWS, CAN DO ALL THOSE FANCY FILLS IN BETWEEN BASS/LEAD GUITAR VERSE LICKS, YET YOU PERSIST IN THAT SAME CLUMSY, JUST-LEARNED-TO-BASH-DRUMS SNARE WHACKING 'BEAT' THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE FUCKING THING SO IT SOUNDS LIKE A RUBBISH INDIE SONG THAT NICKED ELEMENTS OF THE GREAT MAN'S WORK BUT KNOWS AS MUCH OF THE BLUES SPIRIT AS BAREFUCKINGNAKED LADIES' COSTUME DESIGNER

DITTO "FOXY LADY"

AND INDEED EVERY OTHER SONG WE THOUGHT WE HAD NAILED WHEN IT WAS JUST ME, THE HARMONICA/VOCALIST AND THE LEAD GUITAR DUDE LAST NIGHT

I MEAN WHY EVEN BOTHER PLAYING "HARD TO HANDLE" WHEN YOU FUNK LIKE AN UPTURNED COW

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 01:08 (sixteen years ago) link

ALSO, STOP APOLOGISING EVERY TIME YOU FUCK UP, IT GETS TEDIOUS VERY QUICKLY

This was meant to be the reunion of the band that played several summer parties, but people kept dropping out, and needing to be replaced, until the only remnants of the original band were me and the frontman harmonica slide guitar fella. The other replacements were known quantities, but the sudden lack of a drummer meant a quick trip (by harmonica fella) to the local blues jam and after a cursory cast-around a "you own kit, you'll do". This. Is. Never. The. Way. To. Find. A. Drummer. Seriously.

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 01:12 (sixteen years ago) link

what are you guys called

a passion for posting (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 01:13 (sixteen years ago) link

For the summer parties we were (the admittedly rubbish) Snuff Cadillac, now we need a new (better) name, but sadly I think we deserve an even worse one. Suggestions? We're a blues-rock combo for the most part.

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 01:15 (sixteen years ago) link

how about Ruse Block

jonty alouette (electricsound), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 01:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Bruise Lock

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 01:16 (sixteen years ago) link

^

jonty alouette (electricsound), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 01:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Fuckwant

max, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 01:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Shut down due to health inspection violations

Behead Gramm (libcrypt), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 02:04 (sixteen years ago) link

that'll do

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 02:06 (sixteen years ago) link

omg Bruise Lock is great

Everything is Highlighted (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 02:20 (sixteen years ago) link

'Bloke Party'

milling through the grinder, grinding through the mill (S-), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 02:29 (sixteen years ago) link

lead singer's a broad

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 02:39 (sixteen years ago) link

i like that one, it does what it says on the tin and will get some dudes along to your gig

jonty alouette (electricsound), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 02:41 (sixteen years ago) link

/custos

jonty alouette (electricsound), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 02:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Slash Custos

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 02:47 (sixteen years ago) link

L0uis J@gger and the Poppage

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 02:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Crucial Bonus and the Epic Points

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 02:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Severed Head and the Neck Fuckers

milling through the grinder, grinding through the mill (S-), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 03:06 (sixteen years ago) link

"What The Who Might Sound Like If They Got Some Dick In On Drums"

snoball, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 10:26 (sixteen years ago) link

OUR AMAZING EX-DRUMMER WHO IS ALSO THE SAFEST DUDE ON EARTH SAID YES!!!!!!!!

All we gotta do is tell this schmuck the gig's cancelled. Which will be a hard thing to do. :D

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 12:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Ah, just be (semi)honest about it and say the old gang's back together. It is a reunion gig after all.

And one of my bands needs a new drummer. We're supposed to be playing a (relatively big) gig next month, first one in ages. I don't want your man, fanks.

bocken (j.o.n.a), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 13:42 (sixteen years ago) link

If he was fucking up and apologising so much he might be relieved not to have to do it. Tell the truth!

the goose that got the cream (I am using your worlds), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 13:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Drummer before the one that just quit, well drummer is overstating it a bit - we had one rehearsal with him and it became painfully apparent that he couldn't play. My main-guy phoned him up the next day to tell him it wouldn't work, and the dude was shocked, and he thought it had gone really well.

But yeah, if he's apologising he's aware he's a bit crap, I guess.

bocken (j.o.n.a), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 13:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Well, I left my bass at his place so I'm the one who'll be doing the explaining. I think he actually rates himself, to be honest. I'll try and rein in the tactlessness.

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 14:41 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.have-you-met-ted.com/wp-content/uploads/segel-drumming-himym.jpg

Jordan, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 14:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Lead Singer's A Broad would probably get you a record deal based on the name alone!

Like sicking a little bit of water into my mouth (HI DERE), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 15:07 (sixteen years ago) link

you could call yourself "Picture of Lead Singer Wearing a Dress" and get some internet crossover appeal.

some call him "crazy", some call him NEWTIMES JESUS (John Justen), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 15:13 (sixteen years ago) link

"eels.jpg"

Like sicking a little bit of water into my mouth (HI DERE), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 15:18 (sixteen years ago) link

?

Christopher Blix Hammer (Ed), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 15:19 (sixteen years ago) link

lol the best thing is that this dude looks quite a lot like john justen :D

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 15:22 (sixteen years ago) link

"We're sorry, this video is no longer available." <<< great name for a band

snoball, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 15:27 (sixteen years ago) link

i bet he's accidentally destroyed my bass or something

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 16:13 (sixteen years ago) link

the video doesn't work. who was the dude that looked like me?

some call him "crazy", some call him NEWTIMES JESUS (John Justen), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 16:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, get it back before you tell him. I've lost a tremolo pedal to someone I didn't want to play with anymore. It's only the crappy Boss TR2 but still.

bocken (j.o.n.a), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 16:15 (sixteen years ago) link

the really terrible drummer :D

your facial hair is more magnificent than his, don't worry, although i reckon you don't have such a neat model railway in your studio

and i don't think he's the vindictive sort, just the completely gormless

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 16:16 (sixteen years ago) link

ok. the phone call has been made. i feel like such a lying shit, but it had to be done. better this than tell him he ain't good enough.

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 16:37 (sixteen years ago) link

not really.

Jordan, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 16:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah you are basically opening yourself up to twice as much pain when he finds out about this.

Like sicking a little bit of water into my mouth (HI DERE), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 16:39 (sixteen years ago) link

I think that Ed was trying to post a link to this (different performance)

snoball, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 16:41 (sixteen years ago) link

well, this was our frontman's doing, deal was that i had to be the mouthpiece. there's a moral quandary in there somewhere but i'm probably kidding myself for convenience's sake

frontman is now on phone to o.g. drummer fretting about how to hush this up. fortunately it's a private event we're playing so it should be fine

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 16:41 (sixteen years ago) link

why would you lie about this??? say you got your old drummer back and you'd rather play with him... argh too late

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 16:44 (sixteen years ago) link

just got offed =

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2006/12/01/JTGEORGE_big.jpg

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 16:44 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah, should've just said "[old drummer] can do it, so we're just going to do that." it's honest and then he can assume that he needs to do some shedding.

Jordan, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 16:47 (sixteen years ago) link

well the frontman's argument is that you don't play at someone's house and then kick him out the next day, it's gotta be all-round terminal. and as we gotta go all the way there to pick up my bass, i had to make the call (not to mention that the frontman didn't want to do it).

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 16:47 (sixteen years ago) link

what the hell is that video

Jordan, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 16:47 (sixteen years ago) link

well the frontman's argument is that you don't play at someone's house and then kick him out the next day, it's gotta be all-round terminal. and as we gotta go all the way there to pick up my bass, i had to make the call (not to mention that the frontman didn't want to do it).

it sounds like your frontman is a pussy

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 16:47 (sixteen years ago) link

^

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 16:48 (sixteen years ago) link

wait i thought the front "man" HAS a pussy

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 16:49 (sixteen years ago) link

well changing drummer so suddenly, especially so close to the gig, and immediately after playing with him, is gonna surely tell this guy what we think of him, and the slight euphemistic deception will be plain. basically we all panicked, and i'm a mug who'll do anything for a friend, but i'm mostly confident this white-ish lie will stay so

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 16:51 (sixteen years ago) link

http://heavenandheck.files.wordpress.com/2006/12/george_costanza.jpg

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 16:55 (sixteen years ago) link

as a last word, neither of us are comfortable with our moral choice, but he'll be the one getting shit :D

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 17:03 (sixteen years ago) link

ugh. gotta side with everyone else, fake cancelled gig is a terrible way to do this.

some call him "crazy", some call him NEWTIMES JESUS (John Justen), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 17:03 (sixteen years ago) link

i've run out of george costanza jpgs

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 17:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Jordan, Wednesday, 8 October 2008 17:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Results 1 - 7 of 7 for "bruise lock". (0.20 seconds)

Doghouse O RLY (G00blar), Wednesday, 8 October 2008 21:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Answer: 12 gauge coz they usually fat

Everything is Highlighted (Hurting 2), Thursday, 9 October 2008 00:11 (sixteen years ago) link

This happened to a friend of mine. I asked him why he wasn't in such and such band anymore, "original bass player moved back to town, wanted his old spot, y'know..." and he was disappointed cuz he liked playin with those guys, but he wasn't exactly hurt. Really, you should have just told the dude straight up, and if you really needed to sugar coat it with some white lie you could have added the ol "nothin personal". Ah well...

^^^ (RabiesAngentleman), Friday, 10 October 2008 13:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Have to agree about being straight with the bad drummer.
I've played in and out of bands for half my life and in the last few years I've realised that all that passive agressive let-medown-gently stuff can get you in a terrible tangle, best just to say, 'I'm sorry, but we have a gig coming up you aren't quite up to scratch and you need to practice more...soz'

How did it go btw?

MaresNest, Monday, 13 October 2008 12:55 (sixteen years ago) link

It went well! The previous day, our dress rehearsal, was even better, but that's mostly because we did it at my old college's Freshers bop (bar party), and were surrounded by a wild "home crowd". Fire into Rock And Roll, Hard To Handle and Whole Lotta Love into Got My Mojo Working (the latter with a near-15-minute crossover jam) were absolutely electric, especially considering the band in its present incarnation had been together for around 4 hours. Saturday night was almost as good but we made a right dog's ear of Dead Letter Blues, possibly because our harmonica/singer frontman was completely sozzled, and spent the entire 2nd half playing a long and winding harp solo. The vibe was less euphoric, too, due to the overwhelming prevalence of graduate students and the "rock lounge" setting. But good stuff overall, and we've potentially been offered a few more nights at various establishments.

Hopefully the discarded sticksman will have forgotten about us by now. If you're reading dude, none of this happened.

Another potential difficulty will be when I inevitably push for the setlist to contain a more varied, challenging and interesting mix of songs than the usual blues-rock/R&B staples. And better modern stuff than Valerie, Are You Gonna Be My Girl or Smells Like You've Heard This Song 400000 Times And Counting. Trouble is, the frontman is a) besotted with blues and blues alone, so won't want to play much that doesn't involve soulful mouth-harping or slide guitar, and b) besotted with our frontwoman('s voice), hence will only want us to perform ball-busting rock'n'blues, nothing with an edge or any hint of vulnerability. Experimentation can forget it. You know me, and you know I'll get bored very quickly if this remains the case.

Plans are afoot, though. The guitarist and I decided that a rock cover of Glory Box would probably make the audience come, notwithstanding that almost no covers band ever tries that shit out. We'll see.

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Monday, 13 October 2008 13:09 (sixteen years ago) link

*entire 2nd half = of the GIG

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Monday, 13 October 2008 13:11 (sixteen years ago) link

BLUES EXPLOSION!

I played in a local blues rock covers band as a teen, we were called The Mudsharks and played the usual, lotsa Lynyrd Skynyrd, Thin Lizzy, The Who (actually, Young Man Blues would be a pretty cool song to do) and I would have killed to have done a cool song instead of fecking Robert Cray and that Cocaine song.

MaresNest, Monday, 13 October 2008 13:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Well they're all learning Fiery Gun Hand whether they like it or not tbh.

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Monday, 13 October 2008 13:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Even Jon couldn't play the solo for FGH live, although he had a fucking good try.

MaresNest, Monday, 13 October 2008 13:55 (sixteen years ago) link

ya I love that video!

Actually I feel some folks need education:

(the studio version involves a cut-and-paste psychotic bit of mixing from timmy smith, mistreating Jon Poole's widdlings until they were damn near impossible to follow let alone play. as Mare's Nest says, Jon's efforts are game)

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Monday, 13 October 2008 13:58 (sixteen years ago) link

There's one point in the studio version solo that makes me laugh every time I hear it.

MaresNest, Monday, 13 October 2008 14:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Okok, which would be best for a blues quintet with 2 singers and no keyboardist? Erm...maybe Fast Robert? Cry Wet Smile Dry? Argh...

Which bit would that be? I'd better have another watch!

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Monday, 13 October 2008 14:02 (sixteen years ago) link

(the chances of me successfully playing a Jim Smith bassline are remote at this point in my ability so all is possibly moot)

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Monday, 13 October 2008 14:03 (sixteen years ago) link

Arnald?

Nurses?

Umm, there's little or no blues or funk in the Cardiacs sound.

MaresNest, Monday, 13 October 2008 14:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Spinney?

MaresNest, Monday, 13 October 2008 14:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Actually that's ridiculous, but Spinney is one of my all time favourites.

MaresNest, Monday, 13 October 2008 14:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Ya I know there's no blues (which, to be all Geir about it, is for the best), but I'm wondering which would a) be easiest and b) fit best with the rest of the set, considering we're mostly a band who deal in simple things. Nurses might work. But like so many of the others it NEEDS that keyboard to really work.

Cry Wet Smile Dry might actually be the answer, you know.

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Monday, 13 October 2008 14:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Maybe we should walk before we can unicycle while juggling, though.

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Monday, 13 October 2008 14:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Okay, 3:40-3:42 is the solo section segment that makes me laugh, I'd love to see a transcription but in a modern classical graph style score.

http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/11/2911-004-2DEA0AEC.gif

MaresNest, Monday, 13 October 2008 15:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Ya, that'd be great! I don't think even Frank Zappa saw Fiery Gun Hand coming.

100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Monday, 13 October 2008 15:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Milk Cow Blues
Corrina, Corrina
You're Crackin Up
Whoa Boys, Can't You Line Em
Pallet on Your Floor
Shotgun Willie
Big Boss Man

etc etc

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 14 October 2008 01:20 (sixteen years ago) link


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