what do you guys use? i don't mean a sequencer, i mean a classic app like deck II, or peak - neither of which are still alive
i really like wave editor - it's very pro, very slick, and has a great interface - but it has two problems: 1) it takes forever to do simple things like cutting and pasting and 2) it now costs $250
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 16 December 2007 17:52 (seventeen years ago) link
I don't know how much functionality you need, but I just started using the shareware program Cacophony, and it's fine for creating loops. Plenty of download links if you google it.
― Hurting 2, Monday, 17 December 2007 01:50 (seventeen years ago) link
Fission is good if you have simple needs.
― libcrypt, Monday, 17 December 2007 06:06 (seventeen years ago) link
Peak is still around, tho. Kinda sux, however.
― libcrypt, Monday, 17 December 2007 06:10 (seventeen years ago) link
I think of sound editing as two basic functions, which in the old days required two different programs:
1) SoundEdit 16 or Sound Designer II: apply effects to mono or stereo sound files, tweak, edit, etc
2) Deck II or ProTools: chop up, rearrange, fade, and mix multiple tracks
Ideally I'd like both apps, or one app that does all of that. Wave Editor falls into the first camp.
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 17 December 2007 11:07 (seventeen years ago) link
I like DSP-Quattro a lot for 1--when I used to use it a bunch, it was free, then like 49.99. There are a bunch of 2's available for less than $100. Is that roughly your budget?
― Jubalique die Zitronen, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 00:35 (seventeen years ago) link
DSP-Quattro isn't so stable, in my experience.
― libcrypt, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 01:58 (seventeen years ago) link
Yeah that's about my budget. Camp 2 is essentially ProTools, but I can't afford ProTools.
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 10:38 (seventeen years ago) link
I tried this Mackie product for awhile for 2, called "Tracktion". It was alright but had a weird, totally un-mac-like interface.
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 10:39 (seventeen years ago) link
Ooh, I was thinking about that Traktion too. Hmmmmm--Ableton Live 6 LE is like $150 or so, and I think you can get Garageband for about $100. It's not bad as a multi-tracker if you can past the stigma of its marketing.
DSP Quattro hasn't crashed much in my experience, but try it and see! Also, Audacity, as someone else may have mentioned in the past, isn't so bad for Camp 1.
― Jubalique die Zitronen, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 16:08 (seventeen years ago) link
importing and exporting in Ableton and Garageband is pretty pathetic/limited
the rogue amoeba one linked upthread looks like a slightly nicer version of Audacity, which I can't believe nobody's mentioned yet, especially since it's free.
― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link
audacity is definitely the closest thing I've seen to SoundEdit 16
i think i haven't used it because it has a stupid name
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link
so what's the call for Camp II if i don't want to use ProTools (too expensive), Abelton (too much of a focus on performance; weird interface), Garageband (ditto), or Tracktion (weird interface, glitches with "rendering" down a file)
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 15:33 (seventeen years ago) link
basically what I want is CoolEdit for the Mac
http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/mac/AUDIO_EDITORS/
― Ed, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 16:08 (seventeen years ago) link
Which really shows just how crap the situation is.
― Ed, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 16:11 (seventeen years ago) link
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sorry you want audacity
― n/a, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link
Audacity will do ProToolsish things too, huh?
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 20 December 2007 10:38 (seventeen years ago) link
Not that I know of--I think the reality may be that Audacity/DSP-Quattro can do the sound editing like Peak, etc., but you'd need a secondary program to do multi-track editing/fading/etc.
Live isn't that bad, really, for multi-track purposes--I'm not sure what you're trying to do, but I've found Live to be fairly easy to use. I just don't like the effects as much, but otherwise, it's pretty efficient. Just use another program for sample-accurate editing.
― Jubalique die Zitronen, Thursday, 20 December 2007 23:33 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=td06kOCHmx8
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 20 December 2007 23:47 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1IqWoWu8gU
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 20 December 2007 23:48 (seventeen years ago) link
I stand corrected--Audacity!
― Jubalique die Zitronen, Friday, 21 December 2007 00:43 (seventeen years ago) link
Actually, watching the second video, it doesn't look very easy to do automation--El Tomboto, is this possible?
― Jubalique die Zitronen, Friday, 21 December 2007 00:45 (seventeen years ago) link
I find Audacity to be a great supplement to Pro Tools - particularly with creating loops and extra ambient tracks to be flown in that aren't crucial to exact tempo. Audacity is really easy to reverse and inverse sound waves and shit like that.
― Darin, Friday, 21 December 2007 01:31 (seventeen years ago) link
what's wrong with Peak?
― horrid bluegrass clicktrack, Friday, 21 December 2007 02:31 (seventeen years ago) link
I use Audacity all the time, and I own Digital Performer 5. It's pretty quick and easy to use...and all it's key commands can be easily changed so once you tweak a few minor things to make it easy for you, it's very simple. I use it for digitizing vinyl...record into it, remove some pops and clips, fade in and out, normalize, export as mp3.
― dan selzer, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 16:09 (seventeen years ago) link
i use audacity, but on linux. jokosher is also good for linux.
― the galena free practitioner, Thursday, 3 January 2008 20:08 (seventeen years ago) link