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what's your favorite rudiment?

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from the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudiment";]40 international drum rudiments[url]!

Poll Results

OptionVotes
The Single Paradiddle 1
The Triple Paradiddle 1
The Single Paradiddle-Diddle 1
The Single Flammed Mill 1
The Pataflafla 1
The Seven Stroke Roll 1
The Lesson 25 0
The Flam Paradiddle-diddle 0
The Drag Paradiddle #2 0
The Double Ratamacue 0
The Single Stroke Four 0
The Single Stroke Seven 0
The Multiple Bounce Roll 0
The Triple Stroke Roll 0
The Six Stroke Roll 0
The Seventeen Stroke Roll 0
The Swiss Army Triplet 0
The Inverted Flam Tap 0
The Flam Drag 0
The Drag Paradiddle #1 0
The Long Roll 0
The Flam Tap 0
The Five Stroke Roll 0
The Flam 0
The Flam Accent 0
The Flam Paradiddle 0
The Flamacue 0
The Ruff 0
The Single Drag 0
The Double Drag 0
The Double Paradiddle 0
The Single Ratamacue 0
The Triple Ratamacue 0
The Single Stroke Roll 0
The Nine Stroke Roll 0
The Ten Stroke Roll 0
The Eleven Stroke Roll 0
The Thirteen Stroke Roll 0
The Fifteen Stroke Roll 0
Single Dragadiddle 0


― Jordan, Thursday, 23 October 2008 19:03 (eighteen years ago)

oops. here's a better link anyway: http://www.pas.org/resources/rudiments/rudiments2.html

― Jordan, Thursday, 23 October 2008 19:03 (eighteen years ago)

for me it's a toss-up between the good ol' paradiddle (i feel like i've really been getting in touch with my paradiddle lately), Swiss triplets, and the paradiddle-diddle.

on jazz stuff i'm paradiddle-diddlin' all the time, but the sticking i use half the time (RLLRRL RLLRRL) apparently isn't officially rudimental.

― Jordan, Thursday, 23 October 2008 19:10 (eighteen years ago)

I think I'm gonna vote for one of those ratamacues, which I first heard about on this thread

― Retrato Em Redd E Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 23 October 2008 19:45 (eighteen years ago)

Of these, I voted for the single paradiddle because it is the only one I have ever found useful in the making of actual music. And that only sometimes. At tempos between about 90 and 130 it can make for a funky fill. Otherwise, repeat these rudiments: The shot-and-a-beer, the sex-with-a-woman, and the not-playing-badly.

― Ye Mad Puffin, Saturday, 25 October 2008 02:33 (eighteen years ago)

F# half-diminished seven

― St3ve Go1db3rg, Saturday, 25 October 2008 06:52 (eighteen years ago)

Whoa, I've never heard of some of those. Are they in that advanced, super-secret Stick Control II book that you can only purchase through time travel?

― Tyrone Quattlebaum (Hurting 2), Sunday, 26 October 2008 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

This one:
http://www.amazon.com/Accents-Rebounds-Drummer-George-Lawrence/dp/B000CDT4LG
http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/19/00/e96a024128a05bd43d81a010._AA240_.L.jpg

Available from these sellers.

1 used from $206.00

― Tyrone Quattlebaum (Hurting 2), Sunday, 26 October 2008 17:00 (eighteen years ago)

No flamadiddle, no legitimacy.

― № 1 (libcrypt), Sunday, 26 October 2008 18:45 (eighteen years ago)

flam paradiddle = flamadiddle

― Jordan, Monday, 27 October 2008 15:46 (eighteen years ago)

I voted for the single paradiddle because it is the only one I have ever found useful in the making of actual music. And that only sometimes. At tempos between about 90 and 130 it can make for a funky fill.

my favorite hot-sounding fill of the last couple weeks is like this, where the accented (capitalized) notes are played on a cymbal + kick drum:

RlrrlRllRlrrlRll

― Jordan, Monday, 27 October 2008 15:49 (eighteen years ago)

flam paradiddle = flamadiddle

OK, what about the flamadiddlediddle then?

― № 1 (libcrypt), Monday, 27 October 2008 18:03 (eighteen years ago)

OK, that's covered too. There's a host of triple-diddles you didn't mention, then.

― № 1 (libcrypt), Monday, 27 October 2008 18:04 (eighteen years ago)

I am bound and determined to delegitimize this poll.

― № 1 (libcrypt), Monday, 27 October 2008 18:04 (eighteen years ago)

Man, I gotta learn all this shit. :-/

― post-apocalyptic time jazz (Masonic Boom), Monday, 27 October 2008 18:17 (eighteen years ago)

Only if you want to be in marching band.

― № 1 (libcrypt), Monday, 27 October 2008 18:18 (eighteen years ago)

Screw traditional grip btw.

― № 1 (libcrypt), Monday, 27 October 2008 18:18 (eighteen years ago)

i love traditional grip!

― Jordan, Monday, 27 October 2008 18:20 (eighteen years ago)

traditional grip hurts my hand

― Mr. Que, Monday, 27 October 2008 18:20 (eighteen years ago)

(lol, maybe i'm doing it wrong.)

― Mr. Que, Monday, 27 October 2008 18:20 (eighteen years ago)

Traditional grip is great when you are marching with a snare on a sling, but otherwise, there's no reason to use it.

― № 1 (libcrypt), Monday, 27 October 2008 18:22 (eighteen years ago)

when it comes to end of this list and all the flammed mills and stuff, i kinda adopt that "eh it's okay that i don't practice that stuff, i'm not a drum corps nerd" attitude. but i would totally disagree on the usefulness of practicing rudiments in general, it's way applicable.

― Jordan, Monday, 27 October 2008 18:23 (eighteen years ago)

What's the name of that painting of the 3 USA dudes with snare, fife, and something else?

― № 1 (libcrypt), Monday, 27 October 2008 18:23 (eighteen years ago)

isn't traditional grip a good way to hit the drums "lighter"???

― Mr. Que, Monday, 27 October 2008 18:23 (eighteen years ago)

isn't traditional grip a good way to hit the drums "lighter"???

Whoa talk about starting a religious war now.

― № 1 (libcrypt), Monday, 27 October 2008 18:24 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, i like traditional grip because the stick rests in your hand more easily, and that + the angle makes it easier to play lighter. it just feels better for playing jazz.

besides, it looks cool, and that's really what it's all about.

― Jordan, Monday, 27 October 2008 18:33 (eighteen years ago)

i mean you can play loud with it too, but i still play matched if i'm playing a lot of backbeats/rimshots.

where's hurting to back me up here?

― Jordan, Monday, 27 October 2008 18:35 (eighteen years ago)

If you play trad grip, I hope you also tilt yr snare down to the right (if you are right-handed), as this was how trad grip is designed to be played.

― № 1 (libcrypt), Monday, 27 October 2008 18:38 (eighteen years ago)

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/5404/spiritof76mediumyp9.jpg

― № 1 (libcrypt), Monday, 27 October 2008 18:40 (eighteen years ago)

^^^ can't play a drum in a sling w/matched grip.

― № 1 (libcrypt), Monday, 27 October 2008 18:41 (eighteen years ago)

no, i tilt it away from me a little bit (whether i'm playing matched or trad). this comes from playing brass band snare drum where it's strapped on but not at an angle:

http://www.dkimages.com/discover/previews/1412/11291640.JPG

― Jordan, Monday, 27 October 2008 18:48 (eighteen years ago)

anyway that's silly, it's super easy to play trad grip on flat surfaces

― Jordan, Monday, 27 October 2008 18:48 (eighteen years ago)

(btw thank you for arguing about drum nerd shit on ilx)

― Jordan, Monday, 27 October 2008 18:48 (eighteen years ago)

I stopped using trad grip after about 6 years of drumming, 'cause I just got a ton more control with matched.

― № 1 (libcrypt), Monday, 27 October 2008 18:53 (eighteen years ago)

Except for the first few years of HS marching band, when all the snare drummers had to use slings.

― № 1 (libcrypt), Monday, 27 October 2008 18:53 (eighteen years ago)

The hardest part about the sling wasn't trad grip, but the fact that the goddamned drum moves all over the place!

― № 1 (libcrypt), Monday, 27 October 2008 18:54 (eighteen years ago)

yeah, i would never use a sling that puts the drum at a sideways angle, but the other kind just takes some getting used to.

i don't understand the dudes who have their snare at a really pronounced angle towards them, that seems really uncomfortable (unless it's super high up, maybe).

― Jordan, Monday, 27 October 2008 18:57 (eighteen years ago)

I think my proudest bathroom graffitti-ing was where someone had wrote:

RLRRLRLL Paradiddle
RLRLRRLRLRLL Paradiddlediddle

I added:

UPDOWNLEFTRIGHTBABASTART Infinite lives.

― BODY PROP (nickalicious), Monday, 27 October 2008 19:53 (eighteen years ago)

I'm a terrible, terrible loser.

― BODY PROP (nickalicious), Monday, 27 October 2008 19:53 (eighteen years ago)

Also this is some crazy shit and maybe I will try some of these now.

― BODY PROP (nickalicious), Monday, 27 October 2008 19:53 (eighteen years ago)

RLRLRRLRLRLL Paradiddlediddle

^^^that's a double paradiddle, not a paradiddlediddle.

― Jordan, Monday, 27 October 2008 20:00 (eighteen years ago)

I never learned trad grip fwiw, but the jazz drummers that I like pretty much all use it.

― Tyrone Quattlebaum (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 28 October 2008 01:15 (eighteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

― System, Thursday, 30 October 2008 00:01 (eighteen years ago)

that code only gets you 30 lives, rather than infinite.

― Pottie Skippen (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 30 October 2008 15:07 (eighteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

― System, Friday, 31 October 2008 00:01 (eighteen years ago)

6 way tie, ratamacue left out in the cold

― Jordan, Friday, 31 October 2008 15:34 (eighteen years ago)

Dang. Forgot to bookmark, forgot to vote.

― Retrato Em Redd E Blecch (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 31 October 2008 15:39 (eighteen years ago)

I voted seven stroke roll. In general I think double-stroke rolls are the awesomest rudiment, especially when used in weird, rhythmically offset ways.

― Tyrone Quattlebaum (Hurting 2), Friday, 31 October 2008 17:42 (eighteen years ago)


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