Someone tell me what's so f*cking great about Logic

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Everyone with a Mac seems to be using it now and I don't understand why. Is it really that much better than Digital Performer and the rest?

I've used versions 6 and 7 and found Logic to be uninspiring.

Alex H (Alex Henreid), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

I use Logic, but I can't really recommend it. It's way too complicated for what I'm trying to do with it, and the instructions are shit. I feel like there's a vast wealth of features that I have no idea how to use.

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

I bought Logic and Live and I never use Logic.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 22:00 (nineteen years ago)

I really like it. It has a steep learning curve though, and I'm constantly discovering new obscure layers of commands etc. Some of the included plugins are superb - ES2 and Sculpture for example. Others aren't so hot, like Ultrabeat which is sort of miserable to program into anything beyond the standard kicks and whitenoise snares. I'm used to my 909 which sounds great on almost any setting (if you like the 909 sound), whereas Ultrabeat sounds like ass unless you really work at it.

I think it might depend on what you want to do with it - if you're primarily into recording things from outside the computer, maybe try something else?

DougD (DougD), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

Well I already use Digital Performer for everything and I love it.
I'm just fascinated by the rate at which Logic has become the #1 app. for Mac users. It makes me feel like I might be missing something.

Alex H (Alex Henreid), Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

I used to use Vision years ago so I was kind of screwed over when Opcode was destroyed. I tried out a crack of DP for a while but MOTU has too many similarities to Opcode to make me feel comfortable about investing time and money into that platform. After Apple bought Logic it seemed like the safest investment for mac users and imagine that's the main reason a lot of people moved over to Logic. This is of course for those people who choose their OS before their applications rather than the other way around.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 20 October 2005 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

That's how I got hooked on DP too. Someone told me that it was the closest app. to Studio Vision.

Alex H (Alex Henreid), Thursday, 20 October 2005 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

I used Performer before Vision, but this was in the days of Mac Plus computers with 1 meg of ram. I liked Performer. Then in college they used Studio Vision and I hated it. Mark of the Unicorn was dead in the water untill they put out the 2408. I think that was around the same time Opcode went under and Digital Performer started getting super popular again. I really think it was just due to having a great hardware combination. I tried Logic once and hated it. I have issues with DP, but am getting used to it. I hated how many pop-up windows it has, but version 4.5 introduced "consolidated windows" which I find helpful.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 20 October 2005 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

So true, I can't remember my life before "consolidated windows" in DP. Seriously. Which interface do you use Dan? I have the 2408mkII.

Alex H (Alex Henreid), Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

oh man...ok, I had an early Beige G3 and had the 2408mkII, that's the one with the 1/4 jacks instead of RCA, right? Then I bought a G5. Whoops! The type of pci card the G5 can take is DIFFERENT then the type the G3 uses! Different voltage or something? So I borrowed an 828, then later bought and 828 mk 2, which has way more features then needed, but I appreciate the 2 jacks on the front a lot. I know have a G3 with the 2408 pci card sitting in my closet. Maybe to use at a rehearsal space or something sometime.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

You can buy the new PCI card from MOTU and still use the 2408, which I like better than the 828. I distrust firewire & usb interfaces.

Alex H (Alex Henreid), Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

xpost: Dan, I know this is too late to tell you, but MOTU would've upgraded your PCI card for substantially less than the price of the 828 Mk2.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Thursday, 20 October 2005 23:02 (nineteen years ago)

I think I knew that but there were some other issues, involving trying to trade the 2408 box with someone who had the mark 1 and wanted the 1/4" jacks.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Friday, 21 October 2005 07:03 (nineteen years ago)

two years pass...

Logic Studio has been installing for 30 min and it estimates it has 5 hours left. 46G of disk it says it needs. This is one whale of an app cluster. Hope it's worth it.

libcrypt, Sunday, 27 January 2008 05:00 (seventeen years ago)

Logic Studio has singlehanddly forced me to upgrade my laptop's HD-so annoying. On the other hand, I love the program. I'm from the dum-dum school of Live/Reason/Reaktor, and Logic Studio's "everything-in-one-workspace" really works for me. I really like it now.

How was the install? 5 hrs seems long!

Jubalique die Zitronen, Monday, 28 January 2008 01:14 (seventeen years ago)

Took about 3.5-4 hours in total. I suppose I should crack open the 50lb of manuals soon.

libcrypt, Monday, 28 January 2008 02:01 (seventeen years ago)

We used it as insulation between our couch and the windowsill. Those things are monstrous. I'm fairly certain that I don't know 95% of Logic, but 5% gets you pretty far. If it weren't so processor-intensive, I'd do a lot more in it.

Jubalique die Zitronen, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 18:32 (seventeen years ago)

You can customize the install so that it doesn't use up so much drive
space. I opted not to install the sound effects (I don't really do sound
for picture) or Apple Loops (I don't use 'em other than ones I've made myself).

I've used Logic since Version 2.5 - I am LOVING Logic 8 on the Macbook.

Tantrum The Cat, Tuesday, 29 January 2008 22:47 (seventeen years ago)

I just got Logic 8,

I kind of don't know where to start since I'm new to audio...

Colin_C., Saturday, 2 February 2008 23:51 (seventeen years ago)

CC, I'd start by:

1.) Recording some audio, try out some of the fx, like the reverb designer and the compressors, get familiar with cutting, pasting, and editing wav forms
2.) Try out one of the soft synths and get familiar with editing midi in Logic
3.) Try out the sampler--and Ultrabeat too--fun with sticking new sounds
4.) Automation! Expand the view on each of tracks and automate your reverb or chorus or distortion!
5.) Try adding other Audio Units or plug-ins or Reason into Logic
6.) Once you have a little something together, put some stuff into the master chain, like maximizer, ad-limiter, multi-part compression, stereo spread, exciter, etc

Have fun!

Jubalique die Zitronen, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 22:21 (seventeen years ago)

two weeks pass...

Do I sell my 2x1.8GHz G5 or turn it into a Logic node?

libcrypt, Monday, 25 February 2008 06:36 (seventeen years ago)

Both, set it up as a logic node, sell it, then send work to it over the internet.

Jarlrmai, Tuesday, 26 February 2008 13:58 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

suppose you mac cunce are all excited baout logic 9

more posts that will never be released (electricsound), Friday, 24 July 2009 01:54 (sixteen years ago)

I don't know. Is there anything new that's really good in this upcoming version?

Nhex, Friday, 24 July 2009 02:11 (sixteen years ago)

one year passes...

does anyone know how to record continuous audio in logic while looping midi sequences? for example, i've got several tracks all running 8 bar midi loops, audio routed out of my soundcard then back in to be recorded on an audio track, and i want to be able to record a long stream of audio while maintaining that 8 bar loop and muting midi sequences in and out as it records

i've tried comping the audio within the loop so you end up with a thousand takes that can ultimately be sewn together into one but this is way too time consuming, plus there's this annoying jolt after the initial take that puts you out of the moment

simply looping the midi sequences for an indefinite number of bars just seems stupid, i know i could do this but it's a really unintuitive compared to what i've grown used to (mpc running all the synths into a mixer and tracking a single audio stream on logic), and am i just meant to guess how long i want to record for?

is there any way to set up the midi sequences to automatically loop across the arrange screen as the time bar scrolls by for instance?

i have to sell everything before the big move and it will be a while before i get my own place where i can set up a studio again so i need to be able to do everything in the box, but at the same time i don't wanna be restricted to this piecemeal way of working with midi, plus if i'm going to work with softsynths it would be nice to be able to route them out into some pedals or whatever and back in

i remember back in the day i used to run fruityloops on the pc with audacity in the background and just record continuous loops through the soundcard into audacity while tweaking everything on fruity but not having to fuck around with the stupid arrange view whatsoever, man i miss those days

不合作的方式 (r1o natsume), Thursday, 29 July 2010 22:37 (fifteen years ago)


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