I really, really, really, really, really do fucking hate Macs. As you're about to find out.

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They crash about twice a day. On a good day.

How come you have to resize every bloody window using the tab at the bottom right corner? Often this means you have to reposition the entire window again to make it convenient to use. You waste so much time just repositioning windows and shit like that. What a waste of time and effort!Why use the mouse more than you have to?

And whilst we're on the subject, some things you just HAVE to do with a mouse because there are either no keyboard shortcuts for the operation or because the keyboard shortcuts are either atrociously documented or completely undocumented (you can do pretty much anything on a PC without the aid of a mouse by hitting ALT and scrolling through the menus or hitting hotkeys). A lot of software expects you to do things with your mouse. What if you don't want to use a mouse? What if ... and hear me out here ... what if most tasks are actually

Talking of shortcuts, Macs have the most stupid shortcuts in the world, eg: Apple and K to send mail. In what language is the letter 'K' supposed to logically betoken sending mail? Xhosa? And that's not the only example... far from it! To forward an email is not Apple+F, it is Apple+J And it applies to other applications too: why is the 'Runaround' shortcut in QuarkXpress Apple+T, but 'Get Text' is Apple+E? Where's the logic in that then?

More on shortcuts, while we're at it: I recently discoverd the Keyboard Shortcut of Death: Shift+Apple+0, - or =. What possible use is a keyboard shortcut that turns your monitor off and crashes your computer? (Admittedly I use the Canadian International ISO keyboard format, so I can't say if that works on British keyboard layouts ... but you can always give it a go yourself.)

Ah, before leaving the shortcuts issue, why can't you clear the desktop of windows with one keyboard shortcut, as you can with a PC? Why do you have to minimise everything that isn't your current application, and then minimise the windows in the current application manually before looking at your desktop (I realise there may be a shortcut for this ... but again, damned if it's well documented. If you know it, tell me asap.)

You have to first go to the Apple menu to open the application you want, instead of being able to have all the icons permanently docked and visible at the bottom of the page (as you can easily do on a PC if you so wish). I know that this has been fixed in OSX, but why did they have to wait all this time to figure out that when some people want an app open, they don't want to have to move or minimise windows (see above) to find an alias on their desktop, or perform gratuitous extra clicks to open it.

Incidentally, some Mac-owning twat once said that the PC was badly designed because you had to click on 'Start' to close the computer down. There is a certain amount of logic in this, but at least it gave you a good idea that 'Start' was the first place you should click to begin using the computer. The tiny little text-free icon for the Apple Menu now ... remind me again how that is an intuitive device?

Now here's a thing: the error message "Finder needs attention. Click to find out what it wants..." or however the message is worded... Why can't it just pop up and tell you what the problem is? Why do you have to perform an extra click on a message box to open up another message box to find out what the problem is? It's like someone in the office coming to tell you that someone else has taken a telephone message for you, and please could you go see them to find out what it was! Dur!

Okay, we're onto really irritating shit now: *Macs don't multitask*, ever! If you are opening up one app, all the rest stop working. You can't even switch between apps if a dialog box is open in the current app!

Another great feature from QuarkXpress: the fonts don't work properly on-screen! Not only do they not render properly, thus making typos and other mistakes far more difficult to spot ... they look different according to whichever zoom level you're viewing the page at!

Image files do not render properly in Quark either. You've got a 40Mb graphic file laid out in your document, and it looks like something a Sinclair Spectrum drew.

Fucking annoying, this one: different packages (eg: web browser, MS Word, DTP) use different keys for navigating around bodies of text, so if you momentarily forget which package uses which key combinations, you end up not moving but deleting something... possibly permanently. For instance, by inadvertently causing the server to refresh you can actually permanently delete a very long message typed into a web form by pressing the very same keys that in Word would simply jump the cursor back a word. (Did I mention the amazing undo facility of Quark, by the way? No, thought not: The undo feature will correct only the last thing you ever did ... if at all. By making a slight misjudged finger movement, you can potentially wipe out an entire day's work).

In fact, the various ways that you are supposed to move around and delete blocks of text or individual characters is not only not intuitive, it is downright contra-intuitive.

Google, the world authority on everything, does not even bother making a Google toolbar for it, so crap are they. Web designers don't bother designing for Macs, because a) they're shit and b) because it's like the computer equivalent of owning an LPG car: "oooh, look at meeee, I'm so cooool!" and they quite rightly say to themselves before deciding what platforms to design for: "Fuck 'em!" Can't access a website? Can't order a book because the JavaScript doesn't work properly? Can't read the text because it's so fucking small? You must have a Mac! Dickhead.

Macs: hardly anyone can fix them when they fuck up because there's no easy way to get into their operating system.

Let's talk about hardware. Have you seen those 'trendy' keyboards with pathetically small, badly shaped and unresponsive keys? Especially the arrow keys... they're absolute shite. And you can't even alter the angle of the keyboard much either, to get it into a proper typing position. The whole damn design of that iMac-style keyboard is unergonomic from beginning to end. And you can't swap them for a proper-sized Mac keyboard because ... guess what ... they have different connectors! Same goes for that crappy hockey puck mouse.... it's USB, and a 'proper' shape mouse is some sort of DIN plug.

The round mouse is more difficult to use than a normal mouse. By a factor of a million. If you put your hand on it without looking, you have no way of knowing which direction it is pointing in. The lead is also pathetically short and gets easily obstructed and resisted by things lying on your desk. All Mac mice have only one button, making navigation difficult and shortcuts impossible. And there's no navigation wheel.

The iMac, a supposedly 'great' machine, has no floppy drive or Zip drive, just a CD slot. Which means that you have to transfer documents >1.4Mb (excuuuse me for using it to do magazine layouts and image manipulation on!) via the Internet. Fucked up or what?

The iMac has its microphone actually INSIDE the shell of the computer, above all the electronic gubbins, hence it picks up noise from the hard disk et al.

The iMac, supposedly an icon of great design, has a fucking 14 inch monitor... useless for doing great designs on!

Anyway, much more to follow. I just can't be arsed and I'm due to pick up my new car (WOOOO!) in half an hour. Go into a showroom. Play around with a Mac... tell me I'm wrong. I'd like to be. But unfortunately even seasoned Mac-operators can't remember the hotkeys and shortcuts and key combinations (oh! I didn't even mention the key combinations, did I?! It's like aliens designed the key combinations!)

Look, I know the guy who designed the iMac is British. Doesn't stop him being a cunt though.

Feedback please.
xPooster

Pooster (pooster), Saturday, 26 April 2003 09:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, and the help files provided with apps, even industrial standards, are fucking shite too. Worse than shite. I never bother even looking at them any more, so shite they are.

Their error messages are no better or worse than Windows error messages in that they are totally incomprehensible ... but they ought to be far better, surely? I thought the Mac was supposed to be user friendly. Yeah, right.

Pooster (pooster), Saturday, 26 April 2003 09:47 (twenty-two years ago)

This is surely the appropriate moment at which to insert the following GIF, which I discovered a year ago while cyberstalking Pooster after he first joined us:

http://www.sungazer.co.uk/img/jonsupercil.gif

There are three wonderful facts about this GIF.

(1) It is a genuine picture of Pooster, supplied by admiring colleagues who may even have clubbed together to get it done by a respected local artist (possibly John Bellany’s twin brother, the one without cataracts in both eyes).

(2) If you move your cursor on to it, it will respond in a way that is entirely apt for the subject of this thread. To borrow a motto from Colin Powell: ‘Of all the manifestations of power, restraint impresses men the most.’

(3) It is called ‘jonsupercil’. Perfect.

And Pooster – I hope you managed to drive over a few Macs on the way home from the garage?

Rex (Rex), Saturday, 26 April 2003 12:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Ah. I now realise that it happens anyway, every few seconds, whatever one may happen to do with one’s cursor. But isn’t that life all over?

Rex (Rex), Saturday, 26 April 2003 13:00 (twenty-two years ago)

What's a "keyboard"? I use an "Etch A Sketch".

Zen Clown (Zen Clown), Saturday, 26 April 2003 15:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm so glad I have an IBM. Ner ner ner ner ner.

Wouldn't you like to know (Amused), Saturday, 26 April 2003 18:30 (twenty-two years ago)

skippy@bushkangaroo.oz

Rex, much as I know you would love to teleport back into the early 1990s, running a search on Google does not constitute cyberstalking.

You better ask how accurate the portrait is. I aged a bit since me and Skippy were first acquainted ... I now have an appliance fitted at Stoke Mandible hospital to aid the muscles in my eyebrow. It was sheer hell twitching and gaping and posing for that animated GIF, but it was worth it. I hear I am getting a spot opposite Emma Noble's breasts on page 54. Can't wait.

Hey you guys...
Bi now, gay later...
P

Pooster (pooster), Saturday, 26 April 2003 19:01 (twenty-two years ago)

B-but that gif looks nothing like Pooster. It's not *asymmetrical* enough for a start.......

C J (C J), Saturday, 26 April 2003 19:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Mmmmm...breasts...

Zen Clown (Zen Clown), Sunday, 27 April 2003 00:35 (twenty-two years ago)

You're quite right. After my accident in the frozen-food section of Tesco Metro this is more wot I look like. http://www.stackpool.com/jon2.gif Just trying to keep ZC happy there too. Incidentally, I just don't get it. I typed 'breasts' into Google and this was the first result. What's going on? http://dreamwalk.jestercourt.com/index.html

Pooster (pooster), Sunday, 27 April 2003 06:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Because the dreamwalk server used to host a site called "breasts of doom" that actually had very little to do with breasts except through the written word about women's issues, like breast cancer. And now the site is gone and google has yet to pull it out of the engines.

Hope that helps.

Kara
http://dreamwalk.jestercourt.com

Kara, Sunday, 27 April 2003 23:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Thankyou. It helped enormously.

Matt (Matt), Monday, 28 April 2003 00:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Porn movie proposition.

Indiana Jones and the Breasts of Doom.

I've a got a plot about gigantic alien breasts who have been locked in an ancient temple by Eygptian scribes many a year ago and now an evil madman is about to set them loose for some undisclosed reasons. Our hero, played by this Harrison Ford look-a-like I know has to save the Earth, by having a lot of sex. I'm seeing some poorly done scenes involving a whip and a hat, which degenerate pretty quckly into standard porno fare. Also if the budget allows, "bullet time" cum shots.

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Monday, 28 April 2003 07:47 (twenty-two years ago)

You're a geek, aren't you?

Lynskey (Lynskey), Monday, 28 April 2003 09:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't see what's geeky about writing a script which would allow you to have the starring rôle in your own porn movie. It's rather inspired.

C J (C J), Monday, 28 April 2003 14:03 (twenty-two years ago)

It worked for Albert Camus I suppose.

Lynskey (Lynskey), Monday, 28 April 2003 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Can I audition for the part of the gigantic alien breasts?

Wait a minute ... doesn't this movie already exist (remember Species) and star Natasha Henstridge as gigantic alien breasts that take over the Earth by having lots of sex?

Inspired indeed. ;)

Wouldn't you like to know (Amused), Monday, 28 April 2003 14:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't see what's geeky about writing a script which would allow you to have the starring rôle in your own porn movie. It's rather inspired.

All the sex is with computers.

Matt (Matt), Monday, 28 April 2003 22:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Well obviously you would want to keep it as authentic as possible, including those difficult-to-shift streaks on the monitor glass.

C J (C J), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 03:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Nah, I bet computers give him a floppy.

Wouldn't you like to know (Amused), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 15:16 (twenty-two years ago)

3½" floppy?

C J (C J), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 16:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Don't exagerate.

Zen Clown (Zen Clown), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 17:07 (twenty-two years ago)

. . . so I'm sat at home watching an infomercial on Channel Four about how Chris Rock is a GOOD THING. . . .

Seriously, folks, imagine if some hideous God made itself apparent (through either revelation or act of majesty) and cut a hole in the universe the exact shape of Michael Jackson through which demons would poor until the hole was filled.

Would Jacko think himself Christ and breach the leaking tap of evil out of sheer cocaine-blemished ego and hideous facial denials?

Lynskey (Lynskey), Tuesday, 29 April 2003 21:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't see how you can phrase that into a question when it's all so obvious.

Zen Clown (Zen Clown), Wednesday, 30 April 2003 02:38 (twenty-two years ago)

When you grab the hockey-puck mouse without looking at it, you can't tell which way it is pointing, so you have to look at it to get it in the right direction.

The hockey-puck mouse lead is to short and inflexible ... and so meets resistance from books and other items on a desk.

Anyone who uses Macs without complaining about problems with them obviously never touched a PC.

The mini Apple keyboard is monumentally unresponsive, and doesn't spring back quickly enough, making mistakes more than likely in every sentence you type. Also, the keys are too small, and it's difficult to know where you are putting your fingers in complexe manoeuvres. As a touch-typist, I give the Mac keyboard 0 out of 10.

You have to save more often on a mac in case your fingers accidentally press the wrong set of keys. And, with only one level of undo in just about every application written for the Mac, that is invariably disastrous.

QuarkXpress has not yet been written for OSX... like two years after it was released.

Did I mention that they don't multitask? I did? I thought so.

Let's keep to the thread here people. Now I'm all het up I don't want ZC boasting about how much of himself he can fit in a hotdog bun, or Lynskey parading his own particular brand of reality like it was we who were wrong all along, or Rex resurrecting all of a sudden and, albatross round neck, reminding us of our own mortality.

(Obviously, I'm Just Kidding. I like it here. Why would I want to walk the AAD plank?)


Pooster (pooster), Monday, 5 May 2003 21:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Hotdog buns? HOTDOG BUNS?

That's Parker you are talking about. I wouldn't sink lower than a French Roll.

Grrr...the plank is too good for you sir...KEELHAUL THE BLOKE!

Zen Clown (Zen Clown), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 00:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Ahah! Patrick Duffy is my dad! Haha! Don't keelhaul me ...it'll only end in a nail-biting but inevitable victory for me! Oh shit, I'm starting to sound like Sean. I'm going to bed.

Pooster (pooster), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 00:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Perhaps, someday, we'll ALL have gills, so ner.

Zen Clown (Zen Clown), Tuesday, 6 May 2003 02:06 (twenty-two years ago)

You mean you don't?

Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 21:36 (twenty-two years ago)

He means he will

Lynskey (Lynskey), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 22:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I would do anything for love, but I won't do that.

Sean3 (Sean3), Wednesday, 7 May 2003 23:49 (twenty-two years ago)

What, grow gills?

Matt (Matt), Thursday, 8 May 2003 09:41 (twenty-two years ago)

You're gonna have to if you want to get with that mermaid.

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Friday, 9 May 2003 10:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Now, now, let us not mock someone due to their wierd and unfortuate sexuality. They don't call him "'Ole Captain Seawax" for nothing.

Lynskey (Lynskey), Friday, 9 May 2003 10:38 (twenty-two years ago)

"'Ole Captain Seawax"

I remember him. Almost famous, he was. His idea of "liberty" was quite different from that of the crew. The sailors enjoyed carousing in port, you know, with girls and booze and such while "The Old Man" prefered to stay aboard and play Parcheesi wagering for various articles of clothing. He was quite good at it and one point had the First Mate stark naked. "What do you have to bet NOW?" Said the old salt, with a twinkle in his eye. The next morning First Mate walked, quite strangely, down the gangplank, on to the pier and was never heard from again. The "Captin" was a secretive sort. He claimed to have a monkey and was heard, late at night, out at sea, ranting and raving, "Get DOWN here, you little blighter!" No one ever saw the monkey and one morning, on a clear day, in a calm sea, he dissapeared without a trace.

If anyone knows any more about this....please keep it to yourself.

Zen Clown (Zen Clown), Friday, 9 May 2003 17:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I had a girlfriend once. She wasn't a mermaid but I DID learn to hold my breath.

Zen Clown (Zen Clown), Friday, 9 May 2003 17:55 (twenty-two years ago)

ner

Zen Clown (Zen Clown), Friday, 9 May 2003 17:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Wierdo.

Lynskey (Lynskey), Saturday, 10 May 2003 00:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I love breasts!

My Mother was very Christian so I didn't see one until I was married,..........

Zen Clown (Zen Clown), Saturday, 10 May 2003 02:01 (twenty-two years ago)

You married your mother?

Lynskey (Lynskey), Saturday, 10 May 2003 10:52 (twenty-two years ago)

It's a long story.

Zen Clown (Zen Clown), Saturday, 10 May 2003 13:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, I've got hours, please proceed . . . .

Lynskey (Lynskey), Saturday, 10 May 2003 16:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Your mother only has one breast?

C J (C J), Saturday, 10 May 2003 16:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Lets not pry too much into Martys incestuous, single breasted, oedipus like marriage.

SEND PICS NOW!!!

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Saturday, 10 May 2003 20:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Pastis is like a woman's breasts: one is not enough and three is too many.

pooster, Thursday, 15 May 2003 07:23 (twenty-two years ago)

We had a "Pastis Promotion Night" at college once. The girls' toilets ended up being awash with aniseedy vomit. It was horrendous. I've never so much as looked at a bottle of Pastis since then.

C J (C J), Thursday, 15 May 2003 08:09 (twenty-two years ago)

We had a "Pasties Promotion Night". God I love Sayers.

Lynskey (Lynskey), Thursday, 15 May 2003 17:01 (twenty-two years ago)

We had a "Sayers Promotion Night". God I love Leo.

Matt (Matt), Friday, 16 May 2003 10:09 (twenty-two years ago)

We had a "Leo Promotion Night. God I love Lions.

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Friday, 16 May 2003 14:36 (twenty-two years ago)

We had a "Lion Promotion Night". God I love Simba.

Zen Clown (Zen Clown), Friday, 16 May 2003 16:31 (twenty-two years ago)

We had a "Cymbal Promotion Night". God I love percussion.

C J (C J), Friday, 16 May 2003 18:25 (twenty-two years ago)

We had a "Purr Cushion Night". Then they passed a law banning the use off live leopards for seat coverings. God I love 90's soulman Maxwell.

Lynskey (Lynskey), Friday, 16 May 2003 20:56 (twenty-two years ago)

we had a "Maxwell Marathon morning" god I hate fat suicides.

Matt (Matt), Friday, 16 May 2003 21:42 (twenty-two years ago)


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