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You know that smell when you've stepped in it? Niggers smell like they've rolled around in it! Maybe that's why they have shit covered skin and call each other dog?

...But you know the difference between a nigger and dog turd?

Eventually the turd dries up, turns white, and stops smelling like shit!

Thomas Jefferson beleived that niggers eliminated waste partially through their skin. This only makes sense for shitskin to discharge a shit smell (and shows the shit is not just skin deep). And perhaps niggers have shit skin, and niggers have over 3/4 of the world's AIDS: is from all the shit smelling shitskin shitheads' shit packing!!

Simon Legree, Saturday, 17 May 2003 18:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yay! Transparent trolling! Simon, your views on Baudrillard, please.

Matt (Matt), Sunday, 18 May 2003 00:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

IF THAT IS YOUR REAL NAME

Matt (Matt), Sunday, 18 May 2003 00:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

Stop arguing with yourself Matt

Matt (Matt), Sunday, 18 May 2003 00:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

Sorry.

Matt (Matt), Sunday, 18 May 2003 00:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

But I emant is his real name Simon, not is his real name Baudrillard, you see.

Matt (Matt), Sunday, 18 May 2003 00:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yes, they've gathered.

Matt (Matt), Sunday, 18 May 2003 00:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

This is unhealthy.

Matt (Matt), Sunday, 18 May 2003 00:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

righto, sorry, I'll stop *brightens visibly and attempts to be jolly* So, Simon, I believe you had something fun to tell us about niggers?

Matt (Matt), Sunday, 18 May 2003 00:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

Nothing intelligent, I'll wager.

Zen Clown (Zen Clown), Sunday, 18 May 2003 07:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

Thank you for your submission, Mr. Legree.

The post's title is very interesting. If we are to believe Rossiter Kennedy's intensive study on message board structure, "Adventures in Post-Ink Formation" (Harper Press, 1998) then the thread title is paramount, often detailing the posters real feelings towards the subject expounded in the body text. Our title here is "Shit". I'd be tempted to read this as an attempted insinuation of disgust towards Legree's "niggers", but the rest of the text makes too many references to the sloppy arts to ignore that possibility.

So let us explore the body text. Our opening salvo "You know that smell when you've stepped in it?" is a reasoned plea for commonality between our author and his readership. Despite declaring his presence with what is basically a swear word, this man demands empathy by attempting to draw upon an inferred and shared past experience. Does this, then, equal a kind of pastoral chuminess or a more sinister, desperate plea for kinship? At this point it is not clear.

"Niggers smell like they've rolled around in it!" makes things more apparent. The exclamation mark is a telling device. Is it to express that most prevailent of message board traits, wackiness, or is it there to imply surprise at the previous statement. This reviewer believes it is surprise, that might be a value judgement. This typographic protestation only detracts from the statement, giving it less authenticity and therefore less power.

"Maybe that's why they have shit covered skin and call each other dog?". Further problems here. The rhetorical nature of the statement seems poor in terms of the actualities of rhetoric. Again, the wording seems to make the phrase unsure of itself, the "maybe" weakens the whole thing grammatically and the "dog" reference jars. The subject of canines has not previously been seen and comes across wholly out of place.

"...But you know the difference between a nigger and dog turd?". No, no, no, no, no. More examples here of undermining the authors attempt at a mini "Turner Diaries". Spoiling his invenctive with the opening word of a sentence seems to be Legree's linguistic specialty. The "but", so much another sore thumb, is again giving less credibility to what has come before, as if the opening salvo, which lets face it is very strong and inflammatory subject matter, is a mere Jerome K Jerome-esque idle thought.

However, the introduction of the "dog turd" is one of the better linguistic turns. We've been introduced to the visual image of the dog (however poorly) in the previous lines and the fecal has never been far from any text we've been exposed to so far. If it is an attempt at bringing together subject matter so disparate it is verging on the fractal, it can count as a partial success. More power to your resolution, Mr. Legree!

It must be said though, that this falls down with a clunky punchline. The tri-sectioned bon mot cannot fail to repel the reader with it's continued upbeat tone. If Legree wishes to engage the subject of racial politics, another exclamation mark ending a sentence is an awful addition. Have more belief in your ideals, man! If you are taking an extreme view, then for God's sake appear to be on a solid foundation or more centrist thought will always be able to find holes, even if it is just because of the weight of banality it can evoke, being centreist. I suggest a quick read of Johnathon Swift's "A Modest Proposal" for a lesson in how to make an extreme line seem more forceful by maintaining a tone of near-academia. Oh and you don't need an apostrophe before "and".

The sudden interjection of Thomas Jefferson is ghastly. The ribald, playful tone of previous statements jars horribly with this invocation of history. There are no quotations or references to back up this citation, leaving it a flat and suspicious. You could have easily attributed this view that "niggers eliminated waste partially through their skin" to Winston Churchill or Crispian Mills and we'd be none the wiser. As an attempt to inform the reader and place the piece in a wider context, it is deeply flawed. Qualifying this with words like "shitskin" makes me only shake my head. Even when writing in disgust or anger (or possibly both, as you seem to be doing here despite your attempts at frivolity) good grammar and an appropriate tone should not be thought of as the icing on the cake, they are the cake itself. It needs to maintained as a must to give even the most brutal of opinions the neccesary weight to stop it flying off into the literary void, which your piece does with absolutely no sense of vertigo.

"And perhaps niggers have shit skin, and niggers have over 3/4 of the world's AIDS". To invoke the Times review of Naked Lunch, "Ugh". (Burroughs haphazard masterpiece of the agit-garde is a major unspoken pointer for you here. I suggest delving into it to understand better how to present the extreme in a powerful and emotionally engaging way). This sentence is below comment, being so gramatically incorrect as to be senseless and providing the reader with an extremely jarring introduction of AIDS as a subject matter. Kudos for remembering AIDS should be entirely capitalised though. Go back and rethink this section, it needs work.

And so we come to the final denoument, "AIDS: is from all the shit smelling shitskin shitheads' shit packing!!". You have systematically failed to provide a link between the contraction of the HIV virus and your previous arguements about scat and ethnicity, yet you offer us this for your conclusion? Schoolboy error! The conclusion of any piece should be a brief recap of themes and evidence, with possibly an afterthought to leave the reader with a sense of achievement and stimulation. Your finale fails on every count and your dubious biology is never going to be accepted. How strange it is that one who constantly asks questions about links between "niggers" and "shit" should be the one who fills his last twenty seven word sentence with five instances of the word "shit". In argumentative prose, clarity of thought is everything and here you are seeming to get down and dirty with the "dogs" you have previously cited.

In conclusion, this is a poor piece and not suitable for our new bi-quartely magazine - "Ask A Drunk presents the World's Most Insecure Racists". We appreciate the insecurity, but the standard of prose we expect is sorely lacking. You, may, however find other publishers out there willing to give your piece an airing (I believe Bang magazine is bringing out a "Viva La Klan" style sister mag soon). We appreciate you spending the time to write to us and your boundless enthusiasm for your subject matter. In these days of mass apathy it is a delight to behold.

Thanks for your time.

Lynskey (Lynskey), Sunday, 18 May 2003 13:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

Yes...well...I was going to post those very same words but, as usual, "nimble fingers" Lynskey beat me to it.

I, however, concur.

Zen Clown (Zen Clown), Sunday, 18 May 2003 16:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

I've been missing Mike Hawk, and , of course, his cousin, Mike Hunt.

I'd get in line again for that ride.

Zen Clown (Zen Clown), Sunday, 18 May 2003 20:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

i swear i've read that exact post (simon) before. am i crazy?

ron (ron), Sunday, 18 May 2003 21:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

Posted by Simon Legree on March 25, 2003 at 13:53:57:

You know that smell when you've stepped in it? Niggers smell like they've rolled around in it. Maybe that's why they have shit colored skin and call each other "dog!"

You know the difference between a dog turd and nigger?

Eventually the turd dries up, TURNS WHITE, and stops smelling like shit!

Thomas Jefferson beleived niggers eliminated waste partially through their skin. I guess that is partially shit skins give off a shit smell. And why niggers have shit colored skin and Africa has 2/3 of the world's AIDS; from all the shit skin shitheads' shit packing!! ;-)

ron (ron), Sunday, 18 May 2003 21:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

dude's been busy

Posted by: Simon Legree
04/21/2003, 06:13:16

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You know that smell when you've stepped in it? Niggers smell like they've rolled around in it! Maybe that's why they have shit covered skin and call each other "dog?"

...But you know the difference between a nigger and dog turd? Eventually the turd dries up, turns WHITE, and stops smelling like shit!

Thomas Jefferson through his observations beleived that niggers eliminated waste partially through their skin. I guess this is partially why shit skins discharge a shit smell. And perhaps niggers have shit skin, and Africa has over 70% of the world's AIDS; from all the shit skin shit smelling, shitheads' shit packing!!

ron (ron), Sunday, 18 May 2003 21:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

Dog Shit!

ron (ron), Sunday, 18 May 2003 21:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

No really, thanks for you time Lynskey... ever thought of submitting that kinda stuff to the TLS?

Pooster (pooster), Sunday, 18 May 2003 22:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

Those groovy chicks who did "Waterfall"?

Lynskey (Lynskey), Sunday, 18 May 2003 22:56 (twenty-one years ago) link

This is getting kinda, you know, kinky.

Zen Clown (Zen Clown), Sunday, 18 May 2003 23:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

Just a minute here...This thread is supposed to be about shit.

What in the hell do waterfalls have to do with shit? Furthermore, what...Oh, wait,...I see it now.

Nevermind.

Zen Clown (Zen Clown), Sunday, 18 May 2003 23:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

I would never have described the stone roses as chicks. Shit, yes, chicks no.

Matt (Matt), Sunday, 18 May 2003 23:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

Far be it from me to inject some sensibility into an AAD thread but I believe Pooster is refering to the Times Literary Supplement.

http://www.the-tls.co.uk/

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Monday, 19 May 2003 07:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

And I'm refering to TLC

http://www.tlc3d.com/enter.html

Lynskey (Lynskey), Monday, 19 May 2003 12:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

No Scrubs!

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Monday, 19 May 2003 13:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

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hdhjfjdkjfr, Thursday, 29 May 2003 20:17 (twenty-one years ago) link

Fried or boiled?

C J (C J), Thursday, 29 May 2003 20:29 (twenty-one years ago) link

Being a blue-collar worker for most of my life, I can appreciate the amount of effort that went into that post. I am somewhat distressed though. Prehaps Evolution has gone too far. Man has broken the genetic code and at the same time apes have learned that letters form words. Once, I had an advantage over those limb-swinging bastards. Now I feel them breathing down my neck. How long before they start forming sentences? What then? Paragraphs? Pages? Novels? (BTY; "hdhjfjdkjfr" is 'Cheeta' in Ape)

I say spray them with Napalm and set them on fire.

Zen Clown (Zen Clown), Thursday, 29 May 2003 21:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

two months pass...
"...And so we come to the final denoument, "AIDS: is from all the shit smelling shitskin shitheads' shit packing!!". You have systematically failed to provide a link between the contraction of the HIV virus and your previous arguements about scat and ethnicity, yet you offer us this for your conclusion? Schoolboy error! The conclusion of any piece should be a brief recap of themes and evidence, with possibly an afterthought to leave the reader with a sense of achievement and stimulation. Your finale fails on every count and your dubious biology is never going to be accepted. How strange it is that one who constantly asks questions about links between "niggers" and "shit" should be the one who fills his last twenty seven word sentence with five instances of the word "shit". In argumentative prose, clarity of thought is everything and here you are seeming to get down and dirty with the "dogs" you have previously cited..."

Well if you are screwing in asshole then sticking it in the vagina, as pleasent as it is, and having that kind of unhygenic fucking. Then a piece of the shit crust on the weanie may just drop off in the vagina. And the sperm may run into it on the way to the egg. (Or however it is shitskins reproduce?) Anyways the fact that Africa has so much of AIDS is not from being clean. As the man pointed out. And maybe negroes do have that smell and color because occationly one will stick his infection injection in the right hole. Making it far worse when fecal matter is put in a deep opening such as the vagina. Anyways douchebag the rest of it was put in a question form as this forum asks. And I found it quite funny and true.

John Doe, Wednesday, 6 August 2003 16:55 (twenty years ago) link

*As unpleasent as it sounds.

Is what I meant. At least stick in the mouth first to get a clean suck after a mean shit fuck!

Joe Doe, Wednesday, 6 August 2003 17:31 (twenty years ago) link

See, the thing is . . . . .

Lynskey (Lynskey), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 21:36 (twenty years ago) link

...Yes?

Zen Clown (Zen Clown), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 22:50 (twenty years ago) link

One time I wondered why, if there *were* UFOs, why they didn't contact us. I then imagined Stephen Hawking turning away from interpreting the mathematical language of the Universe to wheel over to his guppies and spend some time trying to teach them to improve the quality of their lives by SHITTING closer to the filter.

I realize that this little interjection has almost nothing to do with the thread except for my allusion to SHIT.

Zen Clown (Zen Clown), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 23:08 (twenty years ago) link

Face it Lynskey, you're outclassed.

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Thursday, 7 August 2003 10:48 (twenty years ago) link

Completely. I must turn to guns, it seems. Or maybe arson.

Lynskey (Lynskey), Thursday, 7 August 2003 11:40 (twenty years ago) link

We're just hoistin' the mainsail today, eh boyz?

Lynskey (Lynskey), Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:31 (twenty years ago) link

"The Bounding Main" is far too tame,

we're sailing up Shit Creek!

Zen Clown (Zen Clown), Thursday, 7 August 2003 20:16 (twenty years ago) link

Thomas Jefferson through his observations beleived that niggers eliminated waste partially through their skin.

I for one find the whole notion singularly unappelaing. Especially in light of new evidence exposing Jefferon's early tie-in with the toilet paper company whose primary product advertised by the slogan, "Soaking up more excretement per square inch than your mother's favorite hand quilted shawl."

rudeboy (rudeboy), Thursday, 7 August 2003 20:41 (twenty years ago) link

What the fuck did Thomas Jefferson know? He wasn't Benjamin Franklin, after all. I doubt Ben F harboured those sorts of misanthropic aberrations. If I spelled any of those long words wrongly, I apologise. Guess what! I'm drunk!

At least I'm not crippled by rudeboyitis though. I before E except after C and all. Although to introduce the word 'excretement' into the English language might be fun. If Eminem hasn't already done it, that inventive young bastard.

Now there's a thought: Indian fans of Eminem... when they kill their girlfriends, how do they fit them into the trunk of their elephant?

Pooster (pooster), Thursday, 7 August 2003 21:05 (twenty years ago) link

I have known a drunk... and you sir/madame are cleary no drunk. Dare to pick apart my spelling. You, you sober bastard. No doubt my grammar will be next to fall under the cold glare of your holier than thou sober attitude. Have you know shame, you falsely purported drunk!

I feel, if I am to join this commune, that I must tell you I consider it my duty to pay almost no heed to grammar and puncuation or the like. In my part of the world, properly spelled words are chains. Bindings. Merely the way the man limits our thinking. Mind control if you will. No sir. They will not educate me. Ever!

As foretold by my great wrinkled redneck granpappy:

Holding me close with his blue vein marbled, liver spotted, crusty yellow nailed claw of a hand, (he had always had a suprisingly strong vise-like grip, even now on his bed of death), he muttered in a manner so that the rest of the family gathered round could not decipher, "You are one stupid sumbitch and you's always gonna be one stupid sumbitch. Now get the hell outta here so your granmammy can give me one last ride in the coochie mobile fer I pass on to the great yonder. Stupid sumbitch."

So, given this great revelation some many odd years ago, you may quite clearly consider it an absolute refusal on my part to spell check or proof read or anything I submit here. Besides, that's what editors get payed for.

rudeboy (rudeboy), Thursday, 7 August 2003 21:56 (twenty years ago) link

Except they don't.

Lynskey (Lynskey), Thursday, 7 August 2003 22:37 (twenty years ago) link

rudeboy! A great pleasure to see you back.

An’ yew young ’uns, you jest lissen here. Ah’ll have yew ta know – take thyat god-dyamn ex-praysh-yun offa yore face, young CJ, ’less yew’s wantin’ a good ole-fashion larrupin’! (whatever that may be) – that rudeboy is a veteran contributor to the old Ask A Drunk, now making his debut on the new one. So show some respect. Take your hands out of each other’s pockets, stop muttering obscene insults in Kurdish, and let’s have no more puncturing the tyres of his wheelchair or unstitching his surgical support. Let me remind you that Aimless, rudeboy and I have a combined age of two hundred and ten. Why, we’re almost old enough to go into Israeli politics. So show some RESPECKT, ya hear? Crumb-bums.

* goes off muttering *

Rex (Rex), Thursday, 7 August 2003 22:53 (twenty years ago) link

Will someone run after him? He forgot his pants.

Zen Clown (Zen Clown), Friday, 8 August 2003 02:07 (twenty years ago) link

I'll fetch him, unless of course his pants fit me.

And you know the ladies, they do count it quite a thrill to sneak a peek at, what I am told, are one delightful set of buttocks. Perhaps we'll fetch him on the morrow. At first light. After the ladies have had their fill of him - (if you know what I mean - wink wink).

rudeboy (rudeboy), Friday, 8 August 2003 03:27 (twenty years ago) link

I don't (blink, blink), unless, oh no Rex, you're not hiring yousrself out for use as a roll-top desk again are you?

Matt (Matt), Friday, 8 August 2003 10:36 (twenty years ago) link

More of a studio cushion, really.

Rex (Rex), Friday, 8 August 2003 18:45 (twenty years ago) link

And when have I ever shown anything less than total respect to you, eh? eh? Unless you count that time I referred to you all as gibbering drunken wrecks, but actually that was a compliment.

It's getting crowded in here now, innit? Has there been some sort of recruitment drive? Have people been out on the streets drumming up trade with the promise of free booze and a glimpse of comely thigh? Has Lynskey been prowling around after dark, shaking folk warmly by the throat and encouraging them to be part of AAD? Has Matt been charming the ladies with his witty repartee and recommendations for a good bottle of vino collapso? Has Pooster been sending more random love letters? Has Zen Clown been befuddling people's minds until they accidentally fall in through this site's open doorway in search of a quiet, darkened corner in which to huddle? Has Rex been doing, you know, that thing that Rex does?

The winds of change are blowing through the board. Or at least something is, anyway. Damned Rogan Josh.

C J (C J), Friday, 8 August 2003 19:03 (twenty years ago) link

You know what? All the things he said running through my head (running through my head)? Yes, obviously I'm talking about rudeboy. Well, if you read them in your head as if Marshall Mathers were saying them (okay, subjunctive, I'm not drunk at the moment, okay?), well anyway, if you imagine M&M were saying them, then really I think you'll find this guy is actually way cool. Welcome aboard, sir.

PS: CJ... do you actually have pictures of Comely Thigh? Ahh, the best scrumping days of my life were spent in that idyllic little hamlet. Until it was horribly cut short by a combination of boy-ly upper thigh, gravity, and lichen-covered tree limb.

Pooster (pooster), Friday, 8 August 2003 20:15 (twenty years ago) link

But enough of nostalgia! Let's talk some more about shit! Rex...?

Pooster (pooster), Friday, 8 August 2003 20:16 (twenty years ago) link

Shit!

No one ever welcomed ME aboard!

There I was, washed up on the beach of AAD, naked, drunk, cut and bruised; a pathetic blob of human ambergris unacknowledged and stepped over.

I'm going to cry now. No! No, leave me alone. I'll be alright.

Shit!

Zen Clown (Zen Clown), Friday, 8 August 2003 22:03 (twenty years ago) link

Yes, but didn't you say at the time

Here I am, washed up on the beach of AAD, naked, drunk, cut and bruised; a pathetic blob of human ambergris unacknowledged and stepped over?

we had your card marked from there on in, pal.

Matt (Matt), Saturday, 9 August 2003 23:26 (twenty years ago) link

Yessup

Lynskey (Lynskey), Sunday, 10 August 2003 11:41 (twenty years ago) link

It's official: Zen Clown is a globster.

Pooster (pooster), Monday, 11 August 2003 22:05 (twenty years ago) link

Am not.

Zen Clown (Zen Clown), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 00:44 (twenty years ago) link

Are.

Lynskey (Lynskey), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 01:10 (twenty years ago) link

More like lobster.

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 17:22 (twenty years ago) link

Ain't neither.

Zen Clown (Zen Clown), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 22:37 (twenty years ago) link

Are

Lynskey (Lynskey), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 00:57 (twenty years ago) link

two weeks pass...
You people really make me sick referring to people of color as n****** very sad!! Having white skin does not make you better than anyone!!

lezah28, Saturday, 30 August 2003 02:16 (twenty years ago) link

Not true. I am much better than those losers with no skin.

oops (Oops), Saturday, 30 August 2003 06:42 (twenty years ago) link

Speaking of white skin, that reminds me.

Poets used to be in the habit of extolling the charms of their mistresses by claiming that their complexions were as white as any snow, their lips as red as cherries, and so on. I'm afraid the effect on my imagination when I tried to picture these monsters of inappropriate coloration was less than erotic. All I could see in my mind's eye was something akin to the walking dead, but more garish.

One can only wonder what color their shit was (to bring this thought back on topic)...

Aimless, Saturday, 30 August 2003 18:15 (twenty years ago) link

Tartan. As tartan as the day is wide.

Lynskey (Lynskey), Sunday, 31 August 2003 18:16 (twenty years ago) link

I like confusing the spotty 16-year olds who work in B&Q by going in and asking if they stock tins of tartan paint.

C J (C J), Sunday, 31 August 2003 20:28 (twenty years ago) link

Shit is such a fertile subject, it almost matches blissium!

Aimless, Monday, 1 September 2003 01:19 (twenty years ago) link

A blissium shit!

It staggers the imagination.

BLISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHIT!!!!!!!

Zen Clown (Zen Clown), Monday, 1 September 2003 17:13 (twenty years ago) link

eight months pass...
this looks like we have no more to do with our"your" pathetic lives other than bash niggers"maybee good cause" for ignorant folk who have more hate than intelect to all of us "you" coudos, keep up the productive behavior! oops i put in a "!" linskey but don"t think this is a plea for kindship,oh and here is another!
peace out!

dewie shittleot, Saturday, 1 May 2004 09:58 (twenty years ago) link

Least comprehensible post in history.

I applaud.

Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Saturday, 1 May 2004 11:25 (twenty years ago) link

I thought this thread was flushed months ago...

Zen Clown (Zen Clown), Saturday, 1 May 2004 14:34 (twenty years ago) link


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