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You know, I've never understood this, having lived in America for 18 months, and where they can shoot a nickel off a bartender's foreskin at 20 paces....

Why oh why oh why is hunting foxes more efficient that a high-velocity rifle? Or, for that matter, since the buggers come up to you to within 24 feet, just a nine? Or, for that matter, a nine iron!

Why do pro-hunting people say that you can't shoot foxes, and that it's a stupid idea? All in all, that sounds like a crock of absolute shite from start to end. Anyone with a steady hand and a good knowledge of how sights work ought to be able to take out a fucking bunny from 100 yards, let alone a fox. It's called MARKSMANSHIP.

Is it just that 'outdoors people' have not developed a decent degree of marksmanship, because they have recourse to easier ways to eradicate foxes ("Oh! No! We don't want to eradicate foxes! We want to protect them from the old and sick amongst their number! So that they may prosper!")

Oh, you know, just argue with me, because I can't for the fucking life of me, put up with this institutionalised barbarism for a moment longer.

Someone the other day justified this shit because "it's been going on for hundreds of years!"

Fucking *torture* has been going on for THOUSANDS of years! Child abuse, wife-beating and inconsiderate sarcasm have been going on for just as long.

Oh, you know... if you feel like fox-hunting is a good idea, just go ahead and tell me so. Yes, I like horses, yes I live in the country, yes I like the taste of blood. But fox-hunting? No way.

― Pooster (pooster), Thursday, 3 July 2003 22:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, okay. I know. They don't have foreskins in America. But everything else I said, I stand by.

― Pooster (pooster), Thursday, 3 July 2003 22:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes but in the newspaper there were some pro-hunt girls wearing only body paint and thus I find their argument more persuasive.

― Matt (Matt), Friday, 4 July 2003 00:06 (twenty-two years ago)

That Gareth Hunt Appreciation Society can get a bit lairy after a few egg nogs I must say.

― Lynskey (Lynskey), Friday, 4 July 2003 13:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Did those naked girls have guns? I love naked girls with guns...and chainsaws.

― Zen Clown (Zen Clown), Friday, 4 July 2003 23:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I live in America and I don't have a foreskin. I have guns though but I wouldn't shoot a fox. I think they're cute. I enjoy the sounds they make, late at night. Sounds...like a virgin heretic being tortured in the dungeon of the Bishop of Beauvais. Obviously these people who hunt foxes have never heard their nocturnal cries or tortured a virgin. No. I wouldn't shoot a fox. I could shoot a few Republicans though.

― Zen Clown (Zen Clown), Saturday, 5 July 2003 00:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Hmm, yeah, but only if they were dressed as foxes

― Matt (Matt), Saturday, 5 July 2003 00:41 (twenty-two years ago)

No, I don't see that as necessary- how about if Marty dresses as a fox and then shoots them?

― Weebleman (StillSimon), Saturday, 5 July 2003 05:43 (twenty-two years ago)

The Bishop of Beauvais is my local. I never knew they had a dungeon!

― Pooster (pooster), Saturday, 5 July 2003 08:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh yes, and a dragon. Apparently they go with the turf, though how they fit them down there is beyond me.

― Matt (Matt), Saturday, 5 July 2003 14:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Dragons are installed in dungeons when they are quite young and able to fit through the passageways. They are coddled and fed heretics and when they are fully grown they are prodded with very long sticks to make them angry thus lowering the heating bill on those cool evenings. It may go like this: "Sister Scaramonga?" "Yes, Your Grace?" "I'm feeling a chill. Go downstairs and fuck with the dragon." "Yes, Your Grace." "And Sister?" "Yes, Your Grace?" "Try to keep from catching on fire this time?" "Yes, Your Grace."

― Zen Clown (Zen Clown), Saturday, 5 July 2003 19:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Ah, as for the local, when they say lock-in, they have something a little more manacle oriented than you might at first expect. Don't stay late

― Weebleman (StillSimon), Saturday, 5 July 2003 19:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Unless, of course, you like manacles.

― Matt (Matt), Saturday, 5 July 2003 23:16 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.thechronicle.demon.co.uk/archive/images/manacles.gif
http://www.wbaifree.org/radiofreeeireann/manacles.gif
http://www.theironkingdom.com/Products/Iron_Work/Torture/Manacles/product_images/Wall_cuffs_new.jpg

excited? No? THEN AVOID LIKE THE PLAGUE

― Matt (Matt), Saturday, 5 July 2003 23:20 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.shirebooks.co.uk/Antiques/specs.gif
http://www.wssteam.it/soluzioni/opensystem/tq_view/monocles3.gif
http://www.freedomsite.org/pics/comics/sterotyped/sterot4.jpg
http://www.tournamentofstuff.com/tos2pics/monocles.JPG

oh hang on a sec...

― Matt (Matt), Saturday, 5 July 2003 23:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Those things look like medieval IUDs. Wasn't Hitler monocular? And Himmler for that matter.

― Pooster (pooster), Sunday, 6 July 2003 08:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, they both only owned one telescope.

― Lynskey (Lynskey), Sunday, 6 July 2003 12:02 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.cannonsgreatescapes.net/images/TLGrossManaclesOTWorld.JPG

― Kathryn (kat), Sunday, 6 July 2003 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

good old google.

― Matt (Matt), Sunday, 6 July 2003 23:56 (twenty-two years ago)

I live in America and I don’t have a foreskin.

Doesn’t that sentence just break your heart?

There they are, the most prosperous and powerful nation on earth (apart from California, where I gather they’re now living on handouts of dried rice and beakers of contaminated water), and yet even a man as old and venerated as Zen Clown has to live without a foreskin – an item which, here in Europe, is an everyday household object with a hundred and one uses.

I suggest we can’t allow this shameful deprivation to go on. Let’s club together and buy Zenster a foreskin. Shouldn’t be difficult to find a donor – everyone wants to look American these days, don’t they?

― Rex (Rex), Sunday, 13 July 2003 18:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Ouch, oooooooh, ugh... here you go...

http://circquotes.tilted.com/images/mogencut.gif

― Pooster (pooster), Monday, 14 July 2003 07:17 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm willing to donate mine. It's been holding me back too long now.

― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Monday, 14 July 2003 12:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Can't he just use cling film and his imagination?

― C J (C J), Monday, 14 July 2003 14:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Like Blue Peter, you mean?

That works on so many levels that I shall now go to the pub, smug

― Weebleman (StillSimon), Monday, 14 July 2003 18:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I have no imagination, no cling film, and no television. Ever since Janet Ellis was taken in by the Televisual Gestapo. I mean, how dare they?

― Pooster (pooster), Monday, 14 July 2003 22:43 (twenty-two years ago)

They don't have moral qualms about this sort of thing. They're the Gestapo.

― Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 16 July 2003 00:19 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...

I have bookmarked this thread. Yes. I know how pathetic that sounds.

― Aimless (Aimless), Sunday, 5 June 2005 00:12 (twenty years ago)

I have a foreskin now. I paid off a Rabbi. It was a little tight at first but I soaked my penis in ice water for a couple of weeks and it's OK now.

― Zen Clown, Sunday, 5 June 2005 04:54 (twenty years ago)

Zen, I would have thought you soaked your penis in ice water for weeks on end anyway.

― M. White (Miguelito), Sunday, 5 June 2005 05:49 (twenty years ago)

Don't make fun of my foreskin, White. I pray to Allah now. I see no disernable response but I DO, sometimes, hear a very faint snicker...

(Pardon my spelling, syntax, ect. but I'm drunk on my ass)

Salaam alaikem.

*Jesus Christ, Zen, must you always make a fool of yourself?*

Alas...It is my destiny...

― Zen Clown, Monday, 6 June 2005 02:34 (twenty years ago)

*drops trousers*

― Zen Clown, Monday, 6 June 2005 02:37 (twenty years ago)

*strenuous applause*

*less strenuous applause*

*audience falls over*

OK. Now let's have reheated debate.

― Aimless (Aimless), Monday, 6 June 2005 04:21 (twenty years ago)

Rehashing leftovers of old debates, covering them with sauce and then baking is not just thrifty, it's good housekeeping. Amaze your family!

― Matt (Matt), Monday, 6 June 2005 08:35 (twenty years ago)

That gives me an idea, Matt. In order to boost the ratings of an otherwise boring talk show, bombard the set with microwaves and watch as the debate gets more heated. Bound to make even the most tedious subject more interesting to watch, although, as usual, it's bound to create more heat than light.

― M. White (Miguelito), Monday, 6 June 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)

Here we go again ... more free-flowing American disrespect from ignorance. Wearing a Jewish forskin and praying to Allah. Will this madness never end?

― MSW (MSW), Monday, 6 June 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

I hope not.

― Pungent Pitts, Monday, 6 June 2005 22:05 (twenty years ago)

There is no debate on talk shows. The only comprehensible chatter ever presented is mindless dribble (not to be confused with mindless prattle) to fuel the latest urban legends.

― MSW (MSW), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 12:28 (twenty years ago)

WHAT IS FROSKIN?

― M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 13:12 (twenty years ago)

Froskin is shit band from Wuppertal. They support Braindeath at Wacken, people throw their chips at them!

― Janne Karlsson, Wednesday, 8 June 2005 22:22 (twenty years ago)

As if you didn't know.

Valdimire Froskin was a famous Russian animal rights activist who, during the mid-ninteenth century would wander the forests leaving place settings of silverware and fine china. "They'll utilize it if they have it!", he claimed.
An adamant vegetarian, he, in later life, developed an empathy for plants and would not eat them either.
As lofty as his goals may have seemed to some; the crazy fucker starved to death.

― Pungent Pitts, Thursday, 9 June 2005 02:33 (twenty years ago)

That's a bloody fable is all that is. Froskin didn't give a tinker's damn about animals.
He left table settings in the woods for the fairies and elves.
He didn't starve.
He was accidentally killed when he tried to break up an armed confrontation over some crystal glass finger bowls.

― Pompousass, Thursday, 9 June 2005 03:08 (twenty years ago)

Was the armed confrontation between a bear and badger? This fairy tale continues (and please, lets not include any debate on the foreskins of Russian animals)...

― MSW (MSW), Thursday, 9 June 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)

seven months pass...

Can we talk about the aftskins then?

― M. White (Miguelito), Saturday, 28 January 2006 00:59 (nineteen years ago)

Must we?

― Matt (Matt), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 10:46 (nineteen years ago)

How else can we make le marc?

― M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

Marc de champagne?

― C J (C J), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

Brandy made from must.

― M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

Actually perfect for heated debates.

― M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

How about a heated debate over the proper tempeture to serve warmed brandy followed by a case study of a case served in the study.

― Ðµdë §téè£ (Ðµdë §téè£), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 03:41 (nineteen years ago)

Now that's the sort of thinking that got this forum where it is today.

― Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 10:03 (nineteen years ago)

Just a note of caution:

It is apparently unwise to use those lighters commonly known as crack lighters to heat brandy snifters unless the prospect of shards of glass, blood, and an arm covered in shuddering blue flame is your thing.

― M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

Since this debate is going to be heated, can we have it catered too? I'm feeling a bit peckish.

― M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

"It is apparently unwise to use those lighters commonly known as crack lighters to heat brandy snifters unless the prospect of shards of glass, blood, and an arm covered in shuddering blue flame is your thing."

Wow. Do you have pictures??

― StrangeDays (StrangeDays), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

In the ensuing conflagration, those too were lost.

― M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

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