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I haven't posted here for a while but I used to interact a bit a few years ago. Every so often when I have a major piece of work due I am stuck at my desk and end up procrastinating by surfing the net. Anyway, I had a hunch about a regular who used to post here and at another board and I googled a few things. I found something disturbing that I won't post here. Does anyone else know what I am talking about?
I'm actually very upset about it. I feel a bit shattered that you can interact with someone and they could be so totally not what you expect. I'm pretty sad.

Anna. (Anna.), Sunday, 17 September 2006 02:04 (eighteen years ago)

It is sad but it is true...... But the decision has been made NOT to sully a good name in public. Email me if you wish to discuss it with someone.

еdë §téè£ (еdë §téè£), Sunday, 17 September 2006 04:31 (eighteen years ago)

Hi Anna!

I was shocked by what I heard too, but the past is best left in the past - no need to rake over anything in public here, I think.

As for being sad and upset ... I think the best approach to the internet is simply to take everything at face value, and if you enjoyed interacting with someone online then just remember their online persona with some fondness.

C J (C J), Sunday, 17 September 2006 16:38 (eighteen years ago)

As I will always treasure my copy of spokeshave.wav CJ, ALWAYS! I have it copied onto several hard drives, cd's, and dvd's for posterity.

Unlike my copy of mavity the cat which was lost in a CATastrophic drive failure before I backed it up anywhere.... hint hint....wink wink.... nudge nudge ;)

I'm still working on my website CJ's shrine dot com

еdë §téè£ (еdë §téè£), Monday, 18 September 2006 01:49 (eighteen years ago)

Ask A Drunk is not reality. It is art. Artists do not always live up to their artwork.

Aimless (Aimless), Monday, 18 September 2006 03:13 (eighteen years ago)

That is trite bullshit Aimless. I'm disappointed in you. I understand the internet is not all as it seems but this goes beyond lying about one's looks. I'm upset and I think I have a right to be. I'm not even angry at him, I'm angry at a world that is extremely fucked up. I don't really know what to say about it.

CJ I understand your point but it is an issue that is hard to come to terms with. I certainly have no intention of dragging anything out and it is the very fact that I did like him that confuses me so much.

Anna. (Anna.), Monday, 18 September 2006 10:20 (eighteen years ago)

The internet afford everyone a cloak of anonymity, to a certain extent, and also permits people to portray themselves in a favourable light (if they so wish to do). I do understand that this is an issue which is difficult to come to terms with, but I'm not sure that it's so wrong for someone to want to put their best foot forward irrespective of what their life is like behind the scenes.

I'm sure the vast majority of people who post on the internet are reluctant to reveal their less-than-perfect side when bantering harmlessly with other virtual 'friends', and failure to disclose information about yourself isn't quite the same as being deliberately misleading to gain personal advantage, in my opinion. Whether a person is an axe murderer or was caught shoplifting pick'n'mix sweeties from Woolworths when they were 10, the principle is the same - what's wrong with drawing a veil over some negative aspect of your personality as long as it doesn't impact on the people you post alongside?

I may be taking an overly simplistic view of this but there again I have learned not to become terribly involved with people on the net. I treat the place quite shallowly, and I'm only here for the laughs. Perhaps if I felt personally betrayed by someone, I might find it harder to deal with. But I do understand your viewpoint, and I'm sorry you are so upset. I'm sure this was a shock to many of us.

C J (C J), Monday, 18 September 2006 12:25 (eighteen years ago)

Anna, I sympathize with you, though I tend to take CJ's approach with regard to the internet. I do not intend this to sound trite but the expression, 'speak no ill of the dead', may apply here. I too was shocked or, perhaps, appalled would be a better word but there is nothing left to be done but learn whatever lessons you can out of all this about people's tortured souls, about appearance and reality, and about how you interact emotionally with other people, especially in a forum that doesn't allow you to use your senses to evaluate them. We are all mere disembodied words here, which is fine and even quite interesting at times but normal human interactions require more, I think.

M. White (Miguelito), Monday, 18 September 2006 14:09 (eighteen years ago)

Anna

If 2 people knew another person they would both see a different person.

The person you knew is the one special to you.

Geoffrey Judge ( Ivor Feltersnatch), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 05:24 (eighteen years ago)

What we're referring to is not simply being 'less than perfect" or hiding your negative side. I could say more on this but I won't.

I suspect that the reason that I have been distressed by this is because I also use the net as some light hearted refuge from the cruelties of the world. I work in a job in which I hear about the worst of human behaviour, I also live in an area in which I am exposed daily to what verges on child abuse. I guess this came as another reminder that the world is really messed up and it occurs even when you don't expect it.

Thanks everyone for letting me vent. I do actually have my own family and friends and work so it's not as though this is my life or anything. I know I'm a bit of a freak to be upset. I don't know why this makes me want to cry.

Anna. (Anna.), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 13:09 (eighteen years ago)

You're not a freak to be upset, Anna.

When you've spent several years, on-and-off, bantering back and forth with someone you probably think you kind-of sort-of know them a bit so it's obviously going to be upsetting to discover that they weren't anything like you imagined them to be. That's true of anyone really, not just a words-on-the-screen internet person - I'm sure I would have been just as stunned to discover that someone I worked with or the village postman or whoever had been hiding some awful secret about what they did on their days off. It's perfectly understandable that you are reacting this way.

C J (C J), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 13:27 (eighteen years ago)

I wouldn't worry too much about why it makes you cry. Just do it if you need and move on. (This should not in any way be construed to mean that your monthly quota of AAD posts will not still be required if you still hold on to any hope of ever getting your deposit back.)

M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 14:10 (eighteen years ago)

You people are very sweet. Of course now my naivety has been destroyed and I realise you are all personas of the same grossly obese transexual from some godforsaken american town, who sits at the computer all day in his dirty underpants scratching himself and eating boxes of cheerios.

Anna. (Anna.), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 14:40 (eighteen years ago)

You are correct in every particular except that of the Cheerios. I never eat the boxes, only the contents.

M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 14:45 (eighteen years ago)

How dare you!! I'm British, goddammit!

C J (C J), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 16:38 (eighteen years ago)

So you're not contesting the rest of it, then?

M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 17:43 (eighteen years ago)

Well, no.

Although I am more of a mini shredded wheat girl than a cheerio fan.

C J (C J), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 17:47 (eighteen years ago)

Are we having a shizophrenic conversation? Am I?

I can understand the whole wheat girl thing, but aren't minis a little high in iron and rubber and steering wheels et ainsi de suite?

How do we know that Anna is not a ravishing, svelte, and witty socialite beauty who only occasionally condescends to post here wearing the most exquisite clothes and who doesn't refrain from scratching herself only because she has never, ever had the urge?

M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 19:39 (eighteen years ago)

As a mental health professional I must pull you up on the Schizophrenia comment. Schizophrenia refers to the split betweeen the self and mind, patients typically report feeling that they are not one with their mind or that their thoughts are not their own. It is a thought disorder.
You my friend, have a classic case of Dissociative Identity disorder ( the old multiple personality disorder). No doubt each persona also has a host of mental health issues to contend with as well. If only we could integrate all your personas you may be a whole person ( CJ is the Super Ego, I dare not speculate about the rest of you).

As to your comments about me I was shocked at your astuteness. You are 100% correct. Except for the socialite thing. And the esquisite clothes. And the witty comment. Apart from that you are 100% accurate. I was never one for scratching.

Anna. (Anna.), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 21:29 (eighteen years ago)

I was wondering if this might come up.

Anna yes, I was angry. But it seems a little pointless all things considered. It also (for me) raised interesting points about how these things are never cut and dried, one aspect of a personality etc, all of which have been more elegantly expressed upthread. It was...unexpected.

I, incidentally, am a seven foot tall mother of six.

And you, CJ, are all about the Ricicles. Don't even attempt to pretend that that isn't the case.

Matt (Matt), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 22:44 (eighteen years ago)

How do we know that Anna is not a ravishing, svelte, and witty socialite beauty...

I had always assumed she was a ravishing, svelte beauty. However, any socialite status she may otherwise claim is instantly negated for the duration of her stay in AAD. At such times she may be a bon vivant, but never a socialite. It's the law.

Aimless (Aimless), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 23:30 (eighteen years ago)

Matt, I have been processing it over the past few days ( with the help of you guys and dudesteel) and have come to the same conclusion that nothing is black and white. Noone is completely 'bad', (the closest we come to complete evil would be the sociopaths and media moguls of the world, oh yes and Celine Dion).

Anna. (Anna.), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 00:00 (eighteen years ago)

Whilst you are most certainly correct about Mme Dion, and while I thank you for your astute diagnosis of my condition (I'm afraid I had no idea where to send the check so I put it into the SF drunkards fund, I do hope you'll understand), I must protest at Aimless's unfounded assertion that ravishing, svelte beauties are automatically disqualified by prolonged visitation to this esteemed colloquy to the rank of 'socialite'. The board has not met on the matter. To be honest(ish), the sub-committee hasn't met on the matter (missing tire-bouchon) and the entire matter rests in limbo, and to be frank, none of us are willing to pony up the cash to pay for the visa, so Anna's status rests le cas échoyant (or some such legalese) res non judicata and she must be considered as a socialite in good standing.

M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 01:19 (eighteen years ago)

[shakes AAD bylaws by its covers, flips pages violently, then shrugs]

I was sure it was in there. Eh. Forget it.

Aimless (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 02:19 (eighteen years ago)

Once upon a time I wished to be Annas scratching post but she said no...

еdë §téè£ (еdë §téè£), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 02:59 (eighteen years ago)

Ricicles are overrated.

C J (C J), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 07:49 (eighteen years ago)

I haven't eaten cereal in ages though I thought I was mostly up to date on the brands and all, but Captain Rik is apparently a British. I assume that this provender is consumed with sodding milk, right?

M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 14:42 (eighteen years ago)

They're a bit like Rice Krispies, and yes, they are consumed with sodding milk.

According to the advertising slogan of the day, Ricicles were Twice-icles As Nice-icles.

C J (C J), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 16:51 (eighteen years ago)

How many casualties were there?

M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 17:11 (eighteen years ago)

Neut-icles are cute-icles for your pood-icles!

M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 17:32 (eighteen years ago)

And what of nauticals?

Geoffrey Judge ( Ivor Feltersnatch), Thursday, 21 September 2006 10:53 (eighteen years ago)

As "Noughticles" they were, I believe, the original brand name for tyres or something.

Matt (Matt), Thursday, 21 September 2006 13:20 (eighteen years ago)

Wait, then what were 'naughtycles'? They never really caught on as I recall.

M. White (Miguelito), Thursday, 21 September 2006 13:39 (eighteen years ago)

The 'naughtycle' was, if I recall correctly, a three-wheeled mode of insult-hurling transport invented by The Very Reverend Montmorency O'nions of Salisbury (Rhodesia) in 1973, which he patented under the name of The Tourettes Tricycle. The reason it never caught on was not so much the way it yelled 'bollocks' at passers-by, but the fact that the front wheel has an irritating squeak.

C J (C J), Thursday, 21 September 2006 19:20 (eighteen years ago)

The oil shortage was rather brutal in the early 70's, wasn't it?

M. White (Miguelito), Thursday, 21 September 2006 19:32 (eighteen years ago)

Unfortunately it gave rise to the three day week, which in turn led to the 22 week year which in turn meant that those who lived through those dark dark days are now somewhere in the region of 300 years old. Or thereabouts.

Matt (Matt), Friday, 22 September 2006 03:07 (eighteen years ago)

Young man! Show some respect.

M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 22 September 2006 03:46 (eighteen years ago)

Yes, he's a cheeky little whipper-snapper.

C J (C J), Friday, 22 September 2006 10:25 (eighteen years ago)


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