I get that; my advice really revolves around "respectful" having the necessary coldness/impersonableness to create the distance necessary for you both to get to a healthier interaction point (where that may mean never seeing each other again or being good friends).
― Yeah~ I can flay~~~ (HI DERE), Saturday, 7 November 2009 01:00 (sixteen years ago)
yesterday we had the talk about "there will soon come a time when we have to sit down and sort our stuff."
― sarahel, Saturday, 7 November 2009 01:01 (sixteen years ago)
that just makes me dread the impending real-deal conversation that will happen between my parents re: stuff
lol c u house i grew up in
― how rad bandit (gbx), Saturday, 7 November 2009 01:44 (sixteen years ago)
the hardest part will be dealing w/stuff we received as a couple as gifts.
― sarahel, Saturday, 7 November 2009 01:46 (sixteen years ago)
take everything you like as a starting position, if he makes hassle let it go. he's not really in a position to make hassle though, so as i said start with everything.
― banned of bros. (darraghmac), Saturday, 7 November 2009 01:51 (sixteen years ago)
let all the couple shit go unless you love it. it'll depress you later
― e\m/ily (roxymuzak), Saturday, 7 November 2009 01:51 (sixteen years ago)
the only things i wish i'd put up a 'fight' over in my last breakup were the photos. lol pre-digital storage
― banned of bros. (darraghmac), Saturday, 7 November 2009 01:53 (sixteen years ago)
i wish id taken my kitchen stuff. not that it was a fight, i just left it there. that still pisses me off
― e\m/ily (roxymuzak), Saturday, 7 November 2009 01:54 (sixteen years ago)
the couple shit is mostly dvds, so it's not super sentimental value type things. There are a couple pieces of his artwork that I'd like to keep, but I dunno, maybe I don't want to keep them?
― sarahel, Saturday, 7 November 2009 01:55 (sixteen years ago)
leaving kitchen stuff? outrageous.
― banned of bros. (darraghmac), Saturday, 7 November 2009 01:57 (sixteen years ago)
the kitchen stuff is almost all mine. the tv/vcr/dvd player - all mine.couch - mine.bookshelves - 60/40 - mine/hisbooks - 60/40 - mine/his (though a bunch of his really nice art books were things I gave him as gifts cause I have a work discount)back issues of Art in America magazine dating back to 1992 - his, all hiscds/records - almost entirely mine, one or two things that could be "ours" - he never really listens to musicmovies - 40/60 mine/his - though most of the good ones are mine and a lot of his are crappy
― sarahel, Saturday, 7 November 2009 02:04 (sixteen years ago)
keeping an ex's artwork while not desiring "couple-y" things is a vexing personal and somewhat emotionally abstract problem i don't imagine most ppl have to deal with
(not helpful, but still)
― how rad bandit (gbx), Saturday, 7 November 2009 02:05 (sixteen years ago)
yeah, there's a drawing i really like, and a sculpture that i really like that in its way really encapsulates our relationship
― sarahel, Saturday, 7 November 2009 02:06 (sixteen years ago)
these things are his, but i'm trying to decide if i want to ask if i can have them. the sculpture is pretty cumbersome and would be annoying to move/find a place for if he's moving to a smaller place.
― sarahel, Saturday, 7 November 2009 02:08 (sixteen years ago)
see i can understand how this goes with the whole being v angry/upset w/someone that you, in some ways, respect...thing
cf pretty sure my dad was a 'bad actor' (<--lol med speak) in the disintegration of my family, but i still ~like him, you know? he's been my fucking dad for nearly thirty years, and is otherwise the same dude.
VEXING
― how rad bandit (gbx), Saturday, 7 November 2009 02:10 (sixteen years ago)
not that our situations are in any way similar, obv
― how rad bandit (gbx), Saturday, 7 November 2009 02:11 (sixteen years ago)
sorry gbx - that sounds really horrible to deal with - how large a role do you have in this?
― sarahel, Saturday, 7 November 2009 02:11 (sixteen years ago)
lol wait did am i REALLY the reason mom and dad are fighting????
j/k
unclear. i mean, my mom's going blind and sort of relies on others for 80% of her non-home agency, so it's gonna be a lot on my sis and me, eventually.
― how rad bandit (gbx), Saturday, 7 November 2009 02:16 (sixteen years ago)
back issues of Art in America magazine dating back to 1992 - his, all his
lol keep these u can give them to me!
― plaques (I know, right?), Saturday, 7 November 2009 14:12 (sixteen years ago)
ha! his previous ex-girlfriend complained about these - how much room they took up - and that was in 1997. He's accrued over a decade's worth, since. It's actually a good magazine with some really interesting articles.
― sarahel, Saturday, 7 November 2009 17:52 (sixteen years ago)
yeah i love art in america, dave hickey has been writing a column in it for a while now and the article they had a few months back about "provisional painting" was like porn 2 me
― plaques (I know, right?), Saturday, 7 November 2009 17:55 (sixteen years ago)
there were actually a couple issues he had that had articles I used for my MA thesis.
― sarahel, Saturday, 7 November 2009 17:56 (sixteen years ago)
also where i first came across blinky palermo and james bishop
― plaques (I know, right?), Saturday, 7 November 2009 17:58 (sixteen years ago)
Blinky Palermo always reminds me of the Dead Milkmen song "Bitchin' Camaro"
― sarahel, Saturday, 7 November 2009 17:59 (sixteen years ago)
as art magazines go it is refreshingly unhip
― plaques (I know, right?), Saturday, 7 November 2009 18:04 (sixteen years ago)
i had a subscription to artforum for a while, some of it would be really great and fascinating, and some of it would have this grating "too hip for you" quality. I think there was some article or blog post a while ago that did a comparison between Artforum and Vogue. I hadn't thought about it before, but in a lot of ways they are similar.
― sarahel, Saturday, 7 November 2009 18:09 (sixteen years ago)
yeah that makes sense actually
― plaques (I know, right?), Saturday, 7 November 2009 18:14 (sixteen years ago)
I will not miss the way you set the alarm for a time unrealistically early considering when you went to sleep and it goes off for fucking ever before it jars you into hitting snooze.
― sarahel, Saturday, 7 November 2009 20:22 (sixteen years ago)
ugh that is a terrible trait. maybe not a conscious bad habit but cmon thats inconsiderate
― johnny crunch, Saturday, 7 November 2009 20:34 (sixteen years ago)
xp 2 sarahel: lol just came across thishttp://donchristensen.com/images/Vog.jpg
― plaques (I know, right?), Sunday, 8 November 2009 19:07 (sixteen years ago)
ha ha! one of my friends wanted to get me a poster of baldessari's "i will not make boring art" piece - but apparently this item does not exist, and i think it should.
― sarahel, Sunday, 8 November 2009 19:40 (sixteen years ago)
lol @ heilmann illustrating the 60's as well
― plaxico (I know, right?), Sunday, 8 November 2009 20:18 (sixteen years ago)
whatever happened to "world art" magazine
― luol deng (am0n), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 18:49 (sixteen years ago)
gbx you should read Bottomless Bellybutton
― we are normal and we want our freedom (Abbott), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 21:34 (sixteen years ago)
is it sad, y/n
― lots of jerks (gbx), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 21:45 (sixteen years ago)
when you say "i don't care" i can tell from your expression and body language that you in fact, do carewhen you say "i don't know" i can tell that you actually do have some ideawill be glad to no longer be obliged to read your mind
― provates: feminine plural of provato (sarahel), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 22:06 (sixteen years ago)
xp sad but not depressing. and also funny, clever, and all around awesome.
― I Endorse He-Horse (ytth), Thursday, 12 November 2009 06:07 (sixteen years ago)
i like the title why bc it sound intersting
― tehresa, Thursday, 12 November 2009 06:16 (sixteen years ago)
http://www.metropulse.com/news/2009/nov/11/tenderhooks-call-it-quits/
This was in the local rag yesterday, so now everybody is asking me about the breakup and all. Also, this article was written by an ilxor. Also, lol "avant doom".
― e\m/ily (roxymuzak), Friday, 13 November 2009 23:47 (sixteen years ago)
"the split APPEARS amicable"
it actually is amicable tbh + ieo
metropulse.com should get over it
― luol deng (am0n), Friday, 13 November 2009 23:57 (sixteen years ago)
wait are you in that band thats like corrupted you posted about??
― luol deng (am0n), Friday, 13 November 2009 23:58 (sixteen years ago)
gbx it is half sad
― we are normal and we want our freedom (Abbott), Saturday, 14 November 2009 02:08 (sixteen years ago)
in the same way Orson Welles in The Third Man is half fat
haha i am now. xposts
― e\m/ily (roxymuzak), Saturday, 14 November 2009 05:14 (sixteen years ago)
crap, should i watch the movie first??
― itdn put butt in the display name (gbx), Saturday, 14 November 2009 05:40 (sixteen years ago)
thats awesome roxy
― luol deng (am0n), Saturday, 14 November 2009 20:02 (sixteen years ago)
had thoroughly polite pragmatic discussion about his moving out, timeline for this, separation of stuff - it was almost unreal.
― sarahel, Sunday, 15 November 2009 21:24 (sixteen years ago)
It's good that you can at least settle that stuff without things getting nasty...
Lots of hugs and sympathy to you!
― Tuomas, Sunday, 15 November 2009 22:07 (sixteen years ago)
today i made a budget to try and figure out what my expenses would be like living alone
― sarahel, Sunday, 15 November 2009 22:09 (sixteen years ago)