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― j0rdslovesomedude (acoleuthic), Tuesday, March 30, 2010 2:30 PM

Let's get serious here. No poop on this thread. No vomit, no nose hair, no curious skin maladies, no nothing except good ol' fashioned fucking.

Traditionalist. Some people enjoy incorporating those things into their, er, lovemaking...

We'll put those people aside for now.

I'll open with this:

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i191/fluxion23/Clitoris_anatomy_labeled-en.jpg

This model of the clitoris is very new to me. I've only seen it within the last couple-few years. Before that, I thought the clitoris in its entirety was what is now labelled the glans clitoris. They never told me in health class that the clitoris is this grand, winged organ made of erectile tissue not at all unlike my own favorite organ.

I remember a story that an aunt told me about her kid, a boy. When he was six or so, he accidentally walked in on Mom while showering. There was the usual shock and horror and shooing, but he left crying. "Poor Mama," he said. "She ain't got all God promised her."

It's funny, but... isn't that how all boys think of girl parts, almost by default? And isn't that why I'd never heard of the rest of the clitoris until I was 33 years old? Not to get too political, but... well. This has all sorts of direct implications re: the thread title.

fingerfucking on 2nd date c/d

penis envy innit? xp

well..that's almost a reverse of freud's theory actually

Freud was a choad.

A very very smart choad, but a choad nonetheless.

a fair number of the default ways about which we think about our "selves" were defined, for the betterment of all imo, by freud

hating on freud is a tired phoned-in position even though yeah there's plenty to critique in his work. you know who else was kind of an asshole was Thomas Edison. sure do love electricity tho

The electricity comparison isn't fair. Electricity is a fundamental force of nature. That's like saying Mark Zuckerberg invented the internet.

Personality isn't a fundamental force in human nature?

A bit tortuous, but I'll give it to you.

What about Freud's theories work for the betterment of all?

I mean... ALL? Really?

best secret menu option is getting two or three flavors in yr shake

elecricity is not working out for the betterment of all

xp haha You meant to do that.

It is true.

his structural model of the psyche, while not some from-the-blue whole-cloth concept (which, nb, nothing ever is), has permanent & beneficial consequences for the treatment of mental health

you are smarter than to be taking the dull & reactionary position "freud was an asshole." one reason we are able to conceive of emotional well-being as a continuum instead of a you-are-or-you-aren't is freud's pioneering work.

When I said, "Freud was a choad," there was a bit of joke in it. Because a choad is a penis. I don't think we actually disagree.

Nevertheless, he was one phallocentric motherfucker. So to speak.

I live my life by the pleasure principle

take it to the limit, one more time

don henley over here

http://urgh.files.wordpress.com/2006/04/thedude-lebowski.jpg

^^one of the best scenes in that movie!

I'm still kind of o_O at the diagram of the nu-clitoris up there - it looks like a wishbone

in 5000 years of dissection nobody ever figured out that women carry a giant wishbone down there, huh

I imagine it's not bright pink. But other than that... apparently not. You only find what you look for.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/56/152941728_595343555d.jpg

I have a theory here. The first premise to accept is that boy parts and girl parts are not that different. Then it's a short step to seeing that our sexual responses are in many ways identical. Females do not have sperm-producing organs, and males do not have egg-producing and infant-incubating organs, but apart from that, we appear to be more similar than anyone suspected even 20 years ago.

Many of the glands are exactly the same, if in different places. As seen in the illustration above, the clitoris is not a tiny homolog to the vastly larger male penis; it is a large sexual organ in itself, consisting of the same erectile tissue. There is also a female prostate. There is also a... ok, all guys know that little clear sticky bubble that forms on their cock when they're really awfully turned on. Women produce exactly the same fluid, in pretty much exactly the same amounts, and apparently in response to exactly the same level of arousal. It's the same gland. We obviously get turned on the same way, and not just in our brains. There are physical, one-to-one similarities.

The difference between male and female orgasm remains a contentious issue. Women seem to have longer orgasms, and men have far more obvious ones. The differences, though, are argued mostly because of a lingering sociological (and, perhaps by definition, sexist) debate over whether women have orgasms at all. If they do, what is the evolutionary purpose? etc. It's a silly debate. If women do not produce "jets of love hot and enormous" (as Whitman would have it), it is not because they do not experience orgasm, it is because they do not have any need to eject sperm. The evidence seems to say that just as the physical responses involved in arousal are in most ways identical in both sexes, so too is the climax. Women's orgasms may differ in intensity, one from another, but so do men's.

My theory is this: men and women get turned on the same way, and we get off the same way. The logistics of bringing all this about are different between sexes, certainly, but they are far more different from one person to another. There are not lizard-brain differences in the arousal or climax parts of the program. In a very important way, we all cum together.

And if we can all accept this (especially men, ahem), the opposite sex will seem a lot less scary to everyone. Nobody is any great mystery; we share such similar anatomy and responses that our differences are always because of the bigger parts of our brains, not the most basic ones.

End sex discrimination. World peace through getting each other off.

There's the cru clitoris, and then on some steep sloping hills in Burgundy, the gals have the grand cru clitoris.

a clitoris is like a very rubbery rollercoaster

Hyenas have clitorises that have fused w/their reproductive & urinary tracts...they give birth through their clitoris.

Rawk.

has it been established if the hyena way is the ideal way?

Oh my goodness.

The subordinate female individuals lick the clitoris of a higher-ranked female as a clear sign of submission and obedience. Nevertheless, this is not something that happens only amongst females, since males (which are inferior to all females) and cubs also lick the clitoris of dominant females. There is also the situation when females lick each other's clitorises, which is a greeting or an affective behavior that strengthens links between individuals. Oppositely, a female will never lick the penis of a male, since it is subordinate - the highest ranked male is inferior to the lowest ranked female.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/The-Largest-Clitoris-in-the-World-45527.shtml

Would it be too obvious and dumb right now to observe that size matters?

Remember that Freud had it the wrong way around. The default gender, biologically, is actually female. Males are the weird mutant freaks, chromosomally speaking, with their broken Y chromosome. Foetuses are female until hormones trigger them to mutate and become male. (This also explains why men have nipples.) If anything, a penis is an overgrown malformed clitoris.

Anyway, I thought this thread was about fucking.

post very much in character ^

there is no default gender

Agreed, and Kate, that is some kinda pile of bullshit you just shoveled up there. Y chromosomes are not broken, they are one half of what is necessary in the population for sexual reproduction. Unless you think that genetic diversity is bad, your anti-Y-chromosome stance is just plain silly.

Men have nipples as a vestige of fetal life, it's true. But that's the same argument used against women's clitorises. To say that they have no function is to deny many millions a place to put their binder clips.

If anything, a penis is an overgrown malformed clitoris.

That seems a matter of opinion.

I think my girlfriend summed it up best when she said that the is an innie and I am an outie.

SHE is an innie etc

You know what? You're just biologically wrong. And that's it. End of thread.

Y chroms are not broken anymore than any chrom can be said to be broken, but they are a lot smaller and have a lot less info packed into them than the X chrom (of the two sex chroms). And it is true that babby is formed w/lady organs that are then magically delicioused into little wangers if babby is formed into male. You'd already figured that out, though, kenan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_homology

If you want your mind B.L.O.W.N. and some of your crazier hypotheses abt ladyland confirmed or denied or trumped into your ear by a tiny angel of anatomical science, I recommend the book reviewed here, Woman:
An Intimate Geography by Natalie Angier.

I an struggling to imagine the robot that has B.L.O.W.N. painted on its side, and trying not to think about what it does.

Y chroms are not broken anymore than any chrom can be said to be broken, but they are a lot smaller and have a lot less info packed into them than the X chrom (of the two sex chroms).

But the relevance of the information isn't factored in here. All of us have massive amounts of DNA coding that will never do anything at all, not now and not ever. At least we hope not, or else we're going to grow gills. That's not a big boon to living in air.

Meaning: more DNA does not at all mean ore useful DNA.

(Pardon my typos, I've been hanging out at a gay bar for the last few hours.)

(If that works as a joke, that's awesome, but it's really just a fact.)

The Wolffian duct is easily my favorite from the list of sexual homologs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-PCEe8bNiY

I'm being very silly. I will stop for one post.

I would like to sincerely apologize to Kate, because I know that she's not some nut bent on forwarding outlier theories of gender. Not at all, and there was never a moment when I did not know that. I balked at her tone, and she balked at mine, and I really do regret this thread getting out of hand. I really am sorry, Kate.

Kate and I... um... have a lot in common, if I may speculate as much.

I feel bad, I do. I would buy you a pint if you were nearby. Sounds like a hollow gesture, but it's true.

Ok I've ruined this board enough for one weekend.

I thought this was going to be a thread about a fast-food burger joint....

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i love too much indigestion

Animal Style

Being one to quite frequently use "spoonerisms" (I use scare quotes because that word just seems weird and wrong to me) in casual speech, I am very grateful that, while talking with my family, I caught myself before I realized that "bundt cake" was better off with its first syllables left untransposed.