A thread for recommending films to our fellow ILFers, based on individual tastes

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There was something in All The Real Girls that recalled all the cheesy "coming of age in a small town" movies that I have a soft spot for, stuff like Diner and Beautiful Girls. What else might I enjoy?

adaml (adaml), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 17:27 (twenty-two years ago)

What's Eating Gilbert Grape, George Washington, American Graffiti, The Last Picture Show, My Life as a Dog

Anthony (Anthony F), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 18:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Before Sunrise (coming-of-age, not small-town)
Dazed and Confused

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 21:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Hairspray.

Sommermute (Wintermute), Thursday, 21 August 2003 00:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Il Posto, Ratcatcher, My Life As a Dog, Amarcord.

Hell, might as well just own up:
http://www.criterionco.com/asp/connections.asp?id=40

Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 21 August 2003 00:44 (twenty-two years ago)

How is Before Sunrise a coming-of-age story? Great film anyhow.

Here's some more:

Skipped Parts
Fucking Åmål (or Show Me Love for you English-speakers)
Donnie Darko
Glory Daze
The Incredibly True Adventure of Two Girls in Love

I'm not sure whether you'd like them, however, since none of them are particularly cheesy, they're mostly good films. Still, Fucking Åmål must be the best coming-of-age-in-a-small-town, finding-your-(homo)sexual-identity flick I've ever seen.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 21 August 2003 15:26 (twenty-two years ago)

wouldn't this be better if people said "X has the kind of individual tastes that suggest to me he would really enjoy film Y"?

DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 21 August 2003 15:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Before Sunrise is like the epilogue to a coming-of-age story. That last adventure before adulthood and so on.

That, and it's second-nature to recommend it with Dazed and Confused.

And it's good to see Glory Daze get some love. Chris Moore in the house!

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 21 August 2003 22:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I wouldn't call Before Sunrise "last adventure before adulthood", I think it has something quite profound to say about relationships and love. Call me a sentimentalist, but I always liked the "surprise" ending of the film, in my imagination the guy and the girl really did meet after a year, and continued their "adventure".

Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 22 August 2003 08:05 (twenty-two years ago)

two months pass...
The complete Dawson's Creek collection

ed dill (eddill), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 23:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Inspired by mentions of Snake Eyes on the De Palma thread: I want some recommendations for amped-up, hysterical, ludicrously overblown films totally devoid of any subtlety (in a good way). I'm not really thinking necessarily about violent films, but something that rivals the sheer OTT ridiculousness of Snake Eyes or Wild At Heart (perhaps Nicholas Cage is the key to this).

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 13 November 2003 03:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Think also Wild Things, Bound, and Liar/Deceiver (so I guess bad films ARE allowed, too).

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 13 November 2003 03:45 (twenty-two years ago)

I am starting to notice a definite noir strain to this type of film.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 13 November 2003 03:46 (twenty-two years ago)

U-Turn is another example of this-the only film that rivals Snake Eyes for this kind of unnecessary (but fun! and stupid!) intensity.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 13 November 2003 03:47 (twenty-two years ago)

good question adam, I will think about it (and deliberately exclude de palma films cuz that would be too easy... oliver stone movies as well for that matter!)

s1utsky (slutsky), Thursday, 13 November 2003 05:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Keep at Oliver Stone's oeuvre! (More lurve for the Stone!)

Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 13 November 2003 07:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Freeway

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 13 November 2003 16:01 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, I think stone is really at his best when he gets completely hysterical

s1utsky (slutsky), Thursday, 13 November 2003 17:02 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.rose-hulman.edu/~delacova/cine/oliver-stone-castro.jpg

At first I thought that was a fake until I realized that his latest film is about Castro.

http://www.wga.org/WrittenBy/1000/stone1.JPG

One of the two oft-cited Oliver Stone in Vietnam pics.

Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 13 November 2003 17:25 (twenty-two years ago)

here are my 5 current faves:

chris marker - sans soleil
aoyama shinji - eureka
pj hogan - muriel's wedding
todd haynes - superstar
blake edwards - experiment in terror

recommend away (pref. on DVD).

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 13 November 2003 18:44 (twenty-two years ago)

gygax:

John Waters - Cecil B. Demented

Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 13 November 2003 19:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Kicking and Screaming

Chris B. Sure (Chris V), Thursday, 13 November 2003 19:11 (twenty-two years ago)

i've seen both! something more obscure please!

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 13 November 2003 19:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Shock Corridor?

Any Atom Egoyan film that you haven't already seen?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 13 November 2003 21:09 (twenty-two years ago)

i've seen both! something more obscure please!

First go here:
http://www.savonarolamustburn.com/Movie%20List.xls

As it's a spreadsheet, every entry should have a number.

Then go here:
http://www.random.org/

And pick randomized sequences from the middle column. Then enter your smallest value as 2 and your largest as the number of the last row in the spreadsheet. Hit the button and you have a nice randomized list of the entries in the list, which you can then start to go down until you find something sufficiently unwatched and obscure. I'm certain it shouldn't take more than ten to fifteen at the most.

Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 13 November 2003 23:34 (twenty-two years ago)

adam, see Year Of The Dragon. Afterwards you will CRAVE for subtlety. Or more Mickey Rourke pics.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 17 November 2003 23:29 (twenty-two years ago)

gygax!, have you made any progress with the amazing list that i gave you in sf?

lauren (laurenp), Friday, 21 November 2003 14:44 (twenty-two years ago)

hey!

maybe next month, i'm going out of town for this weekend and next. i'm currently submerging myself in the two towers expanded edition.

but of that excellent list, i have seen one in the theater if you can believe that. of course, it's also the most accessible of the lot: daytrippers.

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 21 November 2003 16:29 (twenty-two years ago)

also girolamo:

there is an embedded random function in excel which generates a random number between 0 and 1.

=rnd()

there are 4119 rows on your sheet.

=rnd()*4119

voila.

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 21 November 2003 17:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, ya learn something new everyday! Good one. Thanks!

Girolamo Savonarola, Friday, 21 November 2003 18:41 (twenty-two years ago)

FYI: it's =RAND as opposed to =RND

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 21 November 2003 19:14 (twenty-two years ago)

bastards changed it circa Excel for Windows 98.

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 21 November 2003 19:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Tried it out, and I still think I prefer the online one. Don't get me wrong - the RAND is great for quick on-the-fly random numbers, but the great thing about having a random sequence is that it's all there, listed, and nothing repeats. Well, that's my preference, anyway.

Girolamo Savonarola, Friday, 21 November 2003 19:54 (twenty-two years ago)

But if you hit F5 it changes every time!!!


!!!!

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 21 November 2003 20:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Save it for elsewhere, guys!

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 21 November 2003 20:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Don't make me take out My SQL package!

Girolamo Savonarola, Friday, 21 November 2003 22:14 (twenty-two years ago)

just noticed that tuomas recommended fucking amal (aka show me love) upthread. i cannot second this enough! rent it now!

lauren (laurenp), Monday, 24 November 2003 15:59 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...
It's actually ridiculous that I haven't seen Fucking Amal yet; Together and Lilya 4-Ever are two of my favorite films from this decade.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 19:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Fucking Amal is really great. I'd put it below Together but above Lilja.

Why are some people being so hard on Moodysson since Lilja?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 19:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Are they?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 19:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Somewhere on this board they were...

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 20:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll just submit a few examples here of a sort of film I love (the links may not be obvious at first):

Breaking Away (1979, Peter Yates) (wistful coming-of-age drama, set in a long, hot, idyllic Indiana summer... excellent sense of real lives, family, friendship dynamics, 'class' difference and a delight in the small.)

Bight Night (1995, Stanley Tucci) (expatriate Italian brothers running a restaurant in New Jersey and trying to balance the real world concerns of commerce with the artistry of making wonderful food... a sense of fighting to hold on to what matters in life... a low-key, unorthodox romance of a film.)

Les Vacances de M. Hulot (1953, Jacques Tati) (melodious comedy of precious, polaroid detail... timeless yet timed-out, hushed joy; the serenity of a south of France summer holiday in the early 1950s.)

From very differing eras I know, but I'd like people to recommend some films which are as poignantly evocative of *place* as these. And of that poignant feeling of the temporal nature of life; good times can be had, but not necessarily for much longer. Enjoy them while they last... a real melancholia is in these films, which do actually manage to convey a beautiful happiness: in community and individualism reconciled, in food and in love, and in a summer holiday, respectively.
There's a clear sense that individualism can only go so far, and the perceptions of having *made a difference* to others' lives, comes across very subtly in these films. The wonderfully aloof Hulot does seem to take satisfaction from developments; yet we can't quite put the finger on how and why... he adds a balletic element of chaos into a sun-scorched, drifting idyll.
I guess I see these films as possessing a profoundly different pace to most other films; languid, attentive to mise-en-scene, the camera keeping a respectful distance from events.

It is perhaps a very personally felt mood that I see running through these three films, yet I hope I communicate what this means; I'd be very interested indeed to hear any ideas about films that could be added to this current trilogy of mine...?

Tom May (Tom May), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 03:34 (twenty-two years ago)

You Can Count On Me
Local Hero
Late August, Early September

David Nolan (David N.), Tuesday, 3 February 2004 23:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll have a look for those; I really should have seen "Local Hero" by now, but it eludes me. I haven't knowingly heard of LAES; time for a bit of research on it I think. :)

Tom May (Tom May), Saturday, 7 February 2004 15:35 (twenty-two years ago)

'late august' is by olivier assayas (also did the classic 'irma vep' and the still unreleased 'demonlover'.

it's a trendy film about parisian meeja twentysomethings starring mathieu amalric (of 'ma vie sexualle' -- a similar film) and the divine virginie ledoyen.

Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 9 February 2004 10:25 (twenty-two years ago)


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