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This a thread for anyone to post their nominations for an underrated or under the radar film/filmmaker/technician/actor/writer that all of ILF should know about.

adaml (adaml), Thursday, 23 October 2003 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Julian Goldberger is the writer and director of a brilliant American indie from 1998 called "Trans", which I am very pleased to have caught on the Sundance Channel last year and which more people should know about.
"Trans" is a low budget feature shot on 16mm (using only natural light sources) that was shot in and around the south Florida everglades. The story is a structurally free-wheeling tale about an odd young man who escapes from juvenile hall and his aimless adventures there after. Similar in a sense to Truffaut's One Hundred Blows but with fantastic performances from a non professional cast. The direction uses the slightest camera movements and blocking that suggest a Spielbergian instinctivess behind the camera. It is formally and aesthetically unlike any American Indie I've seen in the last several years. Brilliantly stylized minimalism. The director is in production on his new feature "The Hawk is Dying." I expect we all might hear more about him soon.

theodore fogelsanger, Thursday, 23 October 2003 17:10 (twenty-one years ago)

safe men, starring sam rockwell and steve zahn; written/directed by john hamburg (zoolander, meet the parents). very, very funny, totally charming, and inexplicably unavailable for purchase on either vhs or dvd.

http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Ss/0120813/1-3.jpg

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 23 October 2003 17:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Ravenous- Very odd, and somehow works better than it should. I don't even know how to classify this movie, but that's part of what I like about it. It disturbs us or makes us laugh when we least expect it.

Day of the Dead- Underrated by everyone, including horror fans. It's the most blatantly allegorical of George Romero's zombie films (and thus, the weakest), but a very good movie nonetheless.

City of Hope- I thought this movie would have been a major contender at Oscar time, but a lot of people overlooked it. It's not even available on DVD. It's a shame, cause this is one of the best films by one of America's most talented indie filmmakers.

Three Kings- Hands-down, one of the best films of the 90's. It's all-star cast might mislead one into thinking this is just another
Hollywood shoot-em-up. It is really one of the smartest, unconventional, and most-humane war films of recent memory.

Fireworks (Hana-bi)- A near-masterpiece. I think its juxtaposition of serene beauty and brutal violence turned a lot of people off, but this is a great piece of work that deserves some reevaluation.

Sergio Leone- His work is generally respected, but I think he deserves to be recognized as one of the greatest stylists in the history of filmmaking. It's a shame that his work carries the negative reputation of spaghetti westerns, cause he deserves so much more credit than that.

James Foley- He's made a lot of pretty crappy movies, but in terms of pure filmmaking talent, this guy's got it. Now if he'd only choose some better material to work with, we'd have a serious filmmaker on our hands.

Christopher Doyle- A fantastic cinematographer who's better-known in Asia than he is here in the States. Check out his work in Chungking Express, Temptress Moon, In the Mood for Love, The Quiet American, Hero....

Anthony (Anthony F), Thursday, 23 October 2003 20:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I love Hana-Bi.

adaml (adaml), Thursday, 23 October 2003 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, god. christopher doyle's work is truly spectacular.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 23 October 2003 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

sing it!

s1utsky (slutsky), Thursday, 23 October 2003 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I really like Crimewave, but that's my burden.

adaml (adaml), Thursday, 23 October 2003 23:15 (twenty-one years ago)


Anthony Dod Mantle.

He is better than us.

Dean Gulberry (deangulberry), Friday, 24 October 2003 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually my pick would be Czech mentalist Petr Zelenka, who directed "Buttoners" and "Year Of the Devil". If anyone knows if these are available on DVD, please email me or post to this thread!

adaml (adaml), Saturday, 25 October 2003 03:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually my pick would be Czech mentalist Petr Zelenka, who directed "Buttoners" and "Year Of the Devil". If anyone knows if these are available on DVD, please email me or post to this thread!
-- adaml (formerlynordicskill...), October 25th, 2003.

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i saw year of the devil earlier in the year, and found it pretty dull. a few mildly funny moments but that was about all.

Mil, Tuesday, 28 October 2003 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Institite Benjamenta by the quay brothers- one of the very best films of the 90's

jed (jed_e_3), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 04:21 (twenty-one years ago)

NIXON. I mean it.

PVC (peeveecee), Tuesday, 28 October 2003 23:57 (twenty-one years ago)

NIXON. I mean it.

*high fives*

Girolamo Savonarola, Wednesday, 29 October 2003 03:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Robert Altman's Vincent and Theo. I've only seen it on HBO or one of those channels late at night, but it's absolutely classic, with maybe the best performance I've ever seen from Tim Roth.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 30 October 2003 07:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually my pick would be Czech mentalist Petr Zelenka, who directed "Buttoners" and "Year Of the Devil". If anyone knows if these are available on DVD, please email me or post to this thread!

How are these two underrated? Mostly everyone who's seen them has praised them (including me). Besides, "Year of the Devil" is apparently the most watched movie in the Czech Republic ever.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 30 October 2003 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know anyone else that's seen them, Tuomas, but I take your point. I guess I should say that he is "underrated" outside of Europe-I don't see him get any press in the US.

btw, is it true that there is a tradition of Finnish logging films, the bulk of then based on the trials and tribulations of errrrr, logging?

adaml (adaml), Thursday, 30 October 2003 16:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess I should say that he is "underrated" outside of Europe-I don't see him get any press in the US.

I always thought "underrated" meant "unjustly criticized", not just "unknown".

btw, is it true that there is a tradition of Finnish logging films, the bulk of then based on the trials and tribulations of errrrr, logging?

Yes, it's true, it's a whole genre which includes books as well. It's called "Logger Romanticism", and it's heyday was in the early 20th century (1940s and 1950s, mainly); it doesn't exist anymore. Unfortunately, my interest with the Finnish culture is pretty limited, so I haven't seen any of these flicks. From what I've heard they're pretty cheesy.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 31 October 2003 10:11 (twenty-one years ago)

wow

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 31 October 2003 15:31 (twenty-one years ago)

i think i have a new obsession. jesus christ, "logger romanticism"? that is amazing!!!

lauren (laurenp), Friday, 31 October 2003 19:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I still think Panic Room didn't get a fair shake for not being flashy or shocking enough. It's gorgeously shot, well acted, and has a real sense of dread and suspense, plus the best title sequence in years. Same for The Game.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Saturday, 1 November 2003 17:58 (twenty-one years ago)

both have really shitty endings though

s1utsky (slutsky), Sunday, 2 November 2003 08:00 (twenty-one years ago)

i think i have a new obsession. jesus christ, "logger romanticism"? that is amazing!!!

You'll have to know that forestry was Finland's main source of export revenue from the 19th century to the early 20th century, and it employed a lot of Finns too, so it was quite natural that there was much fiction based around it.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, 3 November 2003 11:57 (twenty-one years ago)

"Logger Romanticism" -- they should revive this genre with a big budget Arnold flick!!!

PVC (peeveecee), Thursday, 6 November 2003 11:07 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
Alien 3.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 13 December 2003 13:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Bio-Dome. Seriously.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 17:49 (twenty-one years ago)


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